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11 fake electors out of arizona. i should note, as we're giping to make our way through this indictment, there are other individuals who are also included in this indictment. but they have not been served at this time. the indictment has those names redacted. the 11 individuals who have been indicted, who we have the names of, include the likes of kelly war, who folks will recall was the arizona gop chairwoman at the time as well as her husband, as well as rnc committee man out of arizona, tyler boyer, who also serves as the chief operating officer of turning point usa, that trump aligned organization. you also have two current arizona state legislators included in this indictment around -- in the aftermath of the 2020 election, joy, the -- in some states, right, there is more secretive effort to keep the fake elector scheme under wraps, right, in the state of georgia in a secret meeting behind closed doors. in arizona it was a little different. more than a month after the 2020 election results, as donald trump was a
11 fake electors out of arizona. i should note, as we're giping to make our way through this indictment, there are other individuals who are also included in this indictment. but they have not been served at this time. the indictment has those names redacted. the 11 individuals who have been indicted, who we have the names of, include the likes of kelly war, who folks will recall was the arizona gop chairwoman at the time as well as her husband, as well as rnc committee man out of arizona,...
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the arguments took place hours before the arizona state house voted to repeal its 160-year-old near total abortion ban. that law heads to the senate. joining our consideration, the president of reproductive freedom for all, minnie tim raju was here. she was outside the supreme court today speaking to a crowd about reproductive rights and freedom. with me at the table, former obama white house policy director, msnbc medical contributor, our dear friend vida patel. katty is still with us as well. it's incredible, incredible that this is even being debated. even more incredible that it sounds like from the questioning conservative justices want to preserve idaho's right to prosecute doctors. >> yeah, it's very troubling. i had to kind of catch up on listening to this. and the whole time i thought this is not going the direction that i thought it could go in where the emergency medical treatment and labor act which is kind of what's at heart here, it's really -- it has nothing to do with abortion. it's really about triaging, stabilizing the patient and understanding how to treat them. so it h
the arguments took place hours before the arizona state house voted to repeal its 160-year-old near total abortion ban. that law heads to the senate. joining our consideration, the president of reproductive freedom for all, minnie tim raju was here. she was outside the supreme court today speaking to a crowd about reproductive rights and freedom. with me at the table, former obama white house policy director, msnbc medical contributor, our dear friend vida patel. katty is still with us as well....
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joining us now, arizona state senator, ava birch. the senator had an abortion earlier this year after learning her pregnancy was not viable. thank you very much for being here. and i'm so sorry you had to go through that. let's talk about what you're seeing today in arizona and what's happening in the legislature. do you expect this third time to be different? >> well, what i can tell you is that we just had a vote over on the house side, just within minutes that vote wrapped where the clean repeal did pass by a vote of 32-28. >> wow. >> there were three republican lawmakers that were joined on side with the democrats to get that bill through. which means that now one week from today when we come back it business, we should have the opportunity to vote for that clean repeal on the senate side and are hoping that we will still have the two republicans who voted with us last week to put the clean repeal through. so there is an opportunity for that now. what i can say about it is that there were 5 out of 47 republicans who were willing
joining us now, arizona state senator, ava birch. the senator had an abortion earlier this year after learning her pregnancy was not viable. thank you very much for being here. and i'm so sorry you had to go through that. let's talk about what you're seeing today in arizona and what's happening in the legislature. do you expect this third time to be different? >> well, what i can tell you is that we just had a vote over on the house side, just within minutes that vote wrapped where the...
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we've already seen -- arizona is absolutely a swing state. one of the closest in the 2020 election. the supreme court's ruling in arizona probably fundamentally changed the trajectory of where that state's going to be. >> yamiche alcindor, robert gibbs, thank you both. eugene daniels, you're going to stay with me. in 60 seconds, more pro-palestinian demonstrations erupt at colleges across the country. could college graduations be at stake? we'll head to the campus in the middle of this controversy. e ca middle of this controversy i'll be honest. by the end of the day, my floors...yeesh. but who has the time to clean? that's why i love my swiffer wetjet. it's a quick and easy way to get my floors clean. wetjet absorbs and locks grime deep inside. look at that! swiffer wetjet. what if you could go from this to this. with just one step tresemmé silk serum. time for the ultimate humidity test. weightlessly smooth hair your turn. new tresemmé keratin smooth collection. students... students of any age, from anywhere. using our technology to power different ways of learning. so when mind
we've already seen -- arizona is absolutely a swing state. one of the closest in the 2020 election. the supreme court's ruling in arizona probably fundamentally changed the trajectory of where that state's going to be. >> yamiche alcindor, robert gibbs, thank you both. eugene daniels, you're going to stay with me. in 60 seconds, more pro-palestinian demonstrations erupt at colleges across the country. could college graduations be at stake? we'll head to the campus in the middle of this...
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patriot missiles made in arizona, javelins made in alabama, artillery shells made in ohio, pennsylvania, texas, and we're helping ukraine while at the same time investing in our own industrial base, strengthening our own national security and supporting jobs to nearly 40 states all across america. you know, the united nations is not acting alone to state the obvious. our allies in europe and around the world who have constantly been asking me, are we going to step up, we're not going to walk away, are we? they're very concerned. if we fail to step up, lord only knows what would happen and the cohesion of nato. they're also sending significant help to ukraine. we're all standing together against this brutal dictator. this is directly, directly in the united states national security interest. if putin triumphs in ukraine, the next move of russian forces could very well be a direct attack on a nato ally. and you all know full well that invoking article 5, the north atlantic treaty, would be the first thing that comes to mind, which declares an attack on one is an attack on all. and putin a
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we're seeing it in arizona. we saw it in wisconsin. i mean, 155,000 votes in the state of pennsylvania obviously could be decisive in the general election if those voters decide to either sit out or to vote for president biden. these are not marginal numbers anymore. she won 16% of the vote in a race she dropped out of almost two months ago. >> it's not nothing, is. it and it gives you an indication that there are people in the republican party that consider themselves republicans. chris christie telling us, don't want to vote for joe biden and switch over to the democratic side, but clearly not happy with donald trump. what are those people going to do, those 155,000 people, what are they going to do in november. they're motivated voters. the fact that you vote in a primary suggests you're a high educated, high interest type of voter. they're probably going to want to do something in november, but they have made it clear in this vote that they don't want to vote for donald trump. these are states that are going to be won on margins. j
we're seeing it in arizona. we saw it in wisconsin. i mean, 155,000 votes in the state of pennsylvania obviously could be decisive in the general election if those voters decide to either sit out or to vote for president biden. these are not marginal numbers anymore. she won 16% of the vote in a race she dropped out of almost two months ago. >> it's not nothing, is. it and it gives you an indication that there are people in the republican party that consider themselves republicans. chris...
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the arizona supreme court ruling. what are some of the other big touch points we can expect between now and november. >> i mean, you're absolutely right in the danger of candidates coming out with sweeping declaration and position is because you get overtaken by events. donald trump comes out, try to settle the issue by making a statement, you constantly have these new events breaking that requires a response. emergency abortions and on how people can access abortion pills nationwide rulings, there could be state-level rulings. whether arizona's ban that's sweeping as idaho's that dates back to 1860s before arizona was a state. there could be other state rulings as well. lot of states will be voting directly on abortion. >> lot to watch. politico's allison miranda, thank you very much. thank you for getting up "way too early." >>> i think everyone has made their own assessment of donald trump. >> he described the dobbs as a miracle. maybe it's coming from the bible he's trying to sell. i almost wanted to buy one just
the arizona supreme court ruling. what are some of the other big touch points we can expect between now and november. >> i mean, you're absolutely right in the danger of candidates coming out with sweeping declaration and position is because you get overtaken by events. donald trump comes out, try to settle the issue by making a statement, you constantly have these new events breaking that requires a response. emergency abortions and on how people can access abortion pills nationwide...
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arizona wants to be senator kari lake flip-flops once again in her support for arizona's civil war era abortion ban. another example of republicans who cannot figure out what they actually want. we'll have more on that coming up next. we'll have more on that coming up next. shingles. the rash can feel like an intense burning sensation, and last for weeks. shingles could make it hard to be there for your loved ones. over 50? the virus that causes shingles is likely already inside you. don't wait. ask your doctor about shingles. save as many babies as possible? our first priority is to save as many babies as possible. >> last year arizona senate candidate kari lake was very clear about being pro-life and anti-choice. a year earlier she'd made abundantly clear that the civil war era zombie law, the one banning nearly all abortions in the state of arizona, that law was a great one, again according to kari lake. >> i'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a great law that's already on the books, so it will prohibit abortion in arizona. >> but then two weeks ago that zombie law beca
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here she is on saturday. >> when this law passed, the arizona supreme court said this is the law of arizona but unfortunately, the people running our state have said we are not going to enforce it. so it is really political theater. we don't have that law as much as many of us wish we did. >> it is unfortunate the democrats are not enforcing it. except, it is not a good law. because most people aren't for it. except it's a great law. what? this is the modern day republican party. a party that cannot figure out what it wants. speaker of the house mike johnson in 2022 was firmly against providing more u.s. aid to ukraine. he voted against on four separate occasions. but once he was elected speaker last year, according to the reporting from the washington post, he began sitting in on high level intelligence briefings and speaker johnson changed his mind. but when johnson tried to get his own party on board with ukraine aid, barely half of them agreed. in fact, the only reason the house was able to approve 95 billion-dollars for ukraine, israel and u.s. allies in the indo-pacific was because de
here she is on saturday. >> when this law passed, the arizona supreme court said this is the law of arizona but unfortunately, the people running our state have said we are not going to enforce it. so it is really political theater. we don't have that law as much as many of us wish we did. >> it is unfortunate the democrats are not enforcing it. except, it is not a good law. because most people aren't for it. except it's a great law. what? this is the modern day republican party. a...
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i live in flagstaff, arizona. i'm an older student. i'm getting my doctorate in clinical psychology. i do a lot of hiking and kayaking. i needed something to help me gain clarity. so i was in the pharmacy and i saw a display of prevagen and i asked the pharmacist about it. i started taking prevagen and i noticed that i had more cognitive clarity. memory is better. it's been about two years now and it's working for me. prevagen. at stores everywhere without a prescription. but st. jude has gotten us through it. st. jude is hope for every child diagnosed with cancer becaauntie, you can't puteing that right in the dishwasher. watch me. with cascade platinum plus i have upped my dish game. i just scrape... load... and i'm done. in that dishwasher? in that dishwasher. only platinum plus is packed with more dawn to remove up to 100% of grease and food residue. get the highest standard of clean, even in your machine. clean enough for ya? yeah. scrape, load, done. cascade platinum plus. dare to dish differently. ok y'all we got ten orders comi
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. >> biden's visit comes as florida joins arizona as an epicenter of the battle over abortion restrictions. florida's six week abortion ban is poised to go into effect one week from tomorrow and florida voters are gearing up for a november ballot measure that would enshrine abortion rights in its constitution. if you take a step back and look at these maps, you will note a striking similarity between states trump. in 2020 and states where abortion is banned or unavailable. and since the roe decision, regardless of how the states voted in the past, abortion is a losing issue for trump. the latest poll shows biden leading by a 15 point margin on which candidate would be better on this issue. which, surprise, surprise, also happens to be a top issue on voters minds. if the former president is stuck in court, spending more and more donor money on legal fees, it is worth knowing how much abortion is raising the stakes for the november election and creating the potential to flip the electoral map and it is not just florida that is in play. that is tonight's "the reidout." "all in with
. >> biden's visit comes as florida joins arizona as an epicenter of the battle over abortion restrictions. florida's six week abortion ban is poised to go into effect one week from tomorrow and florida voters are gearing up for a november ballot measure that would enshrine abortion rights in its constitution. if you take a step back and look at these maps, you will note a striking similarity between states trump. in 2020 and states where abortion is banned or unavailable. and since the...
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so the women in these groups, especially the groups that were in arizona were talking a lot about this case and how they can't believe that he's even allowed to run again. these were swing voters. and just how despicable his behavior is to women. it was one of the things really keeping them from any interest in going back to voting for him, even though they tended to be sort of center right independents and soft gop voters. >> sarah, that's the $64 million question. whether now -- he also was known to sexualize his own daughter. he made comments about how she was so hot, he would date her if she wasn't his own daughter. they were chalked up. but now that there is a massive policy revolution in this country for the first time in 50 years, there isn't a right to make decisions about your own body, you're saying that these comments are viewed differently. >> yeah. look, donald trump has always benefited enormously from his celebrity, right? people just don't hold the same sort of moral standards to him, in part because he was never a moral guy. and look, there's no doubt that for some vot
so the women in these groups, especially the groups that were in arizona were talking a lot about this case and how they can't believe that he's even allowed to run again. these were swing voters. and just how despicable his behavior is to women. it was one of the things really keeping them from any interest in going back to voting for him, even though they tended to be sort of center right independents and soft gop voters. >> sarah, that's the $64 million question. whether now -- he also...
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is going to directly argue that that is what has led to what we're seeing in florida, what we saw in arizona with that 1864 era abortion ban being upheld, and all of these other things that have essentially amounted to a patchwork of different guides when it comes to abortion access across the country. so you're going to hear that message from the president, and it does come at a time when our polling shows that abortion is further down the list than some other really key issues for americans when they're asked. it's been pretty consistent actually that people identify the economy and inflation as still being at the top of their list. but this is something that when i speak to biden campaign officials about, they consistently say that if you look to the midterms, if you look to special elections and ballot measures over the last couple years, since roe fell, that this is consistently been a very mobilizing issue for voters. and that people do turn out specifically on this issue and they expect that is what will happen in november. in terms of the abortion ban going into effect in florida, at
is going to directly argue that that is what has led to what we're seeing in florida, what we saw in arizona with that 1864 era abortion ban being upheld, and all of these other things that have essentially amounted to a patchwork of different guides when it comes to abortion access across the country. so you're going to hear that message from the president, and it does come at a time when our polling shows that abortion is further down the list than some other really key issues for americans...
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speech on abortion since january, his first time really talking extensively about the situation in arizona. i think, you know, this is probably less about winning florida and more about driving a message. you know, there are also restrictions in georgia and north carolina, the southeast will be effectively restricted now. i think the biden campaign wants to, you know, deliver that message, but they also see a path, i think, in florida, as it is a long shot, but they need to keep as many roads to 270 as possible. >> right. it's a long shot. the state has drifted to the right in recent years. what does the path look like? is it running on reproductive rights? do you have to engage with hispanics? how do you flip a state like that? >> it is driving turnout. they feel this initiative on abortion will help drive that. there's also another ballot initiative they're working on to legalize recreational marijuana. that could also drive younger voters to the polls. you know, i think it is going to be a really difficult path in florida, but i think they feel like, if they can just get a strong turnou
speech on abortion since january, his first time really talking extensively about the situation in arizona. i think, you know, this is probably less about winning florida and more about driving a message. you know, there are also restrictions in georgia and north carolina, the southeast will be effectively restricted now. i think the biden campaign wants to, you know, deliver that message, but they also see a path, i think, in florida, as it is a long shot, but they need to keep as many roads...
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dennis had moved away and lived in arizona for a while, but moved back to albuquerque a couple of months before don's murder. >> it kind of puts up a red flag for me. you are in the process of reconnecting. you had a falling out before and now don has been murdered. >> tiffany and josh had the same feeling. as you think maybe your uncle, his brother, had something to do with this? >> there was talk of it just because of the strained relationship and what had happened. i mean, you're hurt, your greeting, you don't know what to think. >> kaplan interviewed him who said he got a little bit angry after his father had died. >> i got angry because he took a lot of my dad's stuff. there was just this agreement. >> kaplan had learned that don lost his job as a firefighter because of a drug test. >> that's true. marijuana. >> okay. >> nothing heavy. i guarantee you my brother has not touched heavy drugs in 30 years. >> then, dennis came up with a name, someone else he thought detectives should take a look at. >> it makes me mad, you know, i'm no investigator, but this guy spends two hours in my b
dennis had moved away and lived in arizona for a while, but moved back to albuquerque a couple of months before don's murder. >> it kind of puts up a red flag for me. you are in the process of reconnecting. you had a falling out before and now don has been murdered. >> tiffany and josh had the same feeling. as you think maybe your uncle, his brother, had something to do with this? >> there was talk of it just because of the strained relationship and what had happened. i mean,...
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i think they will be struck down just as we saw years ago when arizona passed a show your papers law when it comes to immigration, a unified approach is not just essential for maintaining order, fairness, the integrity of our nation's laws. but that is precisely why we have the supremacy clause of the constitution. so i do believe the courts will deem these both illegal and unconstitutional. but also they are impacted l coo. law enforcement go al is going to have difficulty implementing them. migrants will have an experience, chilling affect where they are not going to be willing to come forward to report crimes to be helpful. this will have a significant impact on economies because we have seen when states, when localities institute these kinds of policies, immigrants know the chaos and that impact they will have on their lives and we will see them choose to go elsewhere. >> this will come as texas' sb4 faces backlash that was recently blocked by the federal appeals court after the supreme court. i'm actually allowing the bill to go into effect. what are the chances that the new bil
i think they will be struck down just as we saw years ago when arizona passed a show your papers law when it comes to immigration, a unified approach is not just essential for maintaining order, fairness, the integrity of our nation's laws. but that is precisely why we have the supremacy clause of the constitution. so i do believe the courts will deem these both illegal and unconstitutional. but also they are impacted l coo. law enforcement go al is going to have difficulty implementing them....
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talking about arizona, for the second time in two weeks, republicans in arizona, even after seeing the response, blocked an effort to repeal the ban based on a law that was passed in 1864. this time, there was video, of republicans actually cheering on the floor of the legislature. what was going through your mind when you watched that video? >> it sickens you. i've got two young daughters. the fact that they won't have the same rights as their mom did, it goes back to that travel point. hundred 60,000 women had to leave their state. that was last year, taxes reproductive care. now, the alabama ag wants to incarcerate them for five years to life, women aiding and abetting, not just the women, but those that support the women, to get out of their respective states. we now have a band that goes back to 1864 in the state of arizona and they are celebrating. 1864. i thought the republican party wanted to put a wrecking ball to the 21st century, now they want to re-create the 19th century. for me, it's chilling and goes well beyond the issue of just women's. -- women through productive care
talking about arizona, for the second time in two weeks, republicans in arizona, even after seeing the response, blocked an effort to repeal the ban based on a law that was passed in 1864. this time, there was video, of republicans actually cheering on the floor of the legislature. what was going through your mind when you watched that video? >> it sickens you. i've got two young daughters. the fact that they won't have the same rights as their mom did, it goes back to that travel point....
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think that the courts will weigh in, i think they will be struck down just as we saw years ago when arizona passed a show your papers law. the reality is that when it comes to immigration a unified approach is not just essential for maintaining order, fairness, the integrity of our nation's laws but that is why we have the clause of the u.s. constitution. so, i do believe that the courts will deem these both illegal and unconstitutional. but, also, they are impractical. law enforcement will have difficulties immigranting them and migrants will have a chilling effect where they will not be willing to come forward and report crimes to be helpful. and then of course this is going to have a significant impact on economies because we have seen when states when they have it, the immigrants know the chaos they will have on their lives and we will see migrants choose to go elsewhere. >> this comes as texas'sb-4 faces backlash. it was blocked after the supreme court allowed the bill to go into effect. what are the chances that this new iowa bill will face the same push back? >> i think we will expec
think that the courts will weigh in, i think they will be struck down just as we saw years ago when arizona passed a show your papers law. the reality is that when it comes to immigration a unified approach is not just essential for maintaining order, fairness, the integrity of our nation's laws but that is why we have the clause of the u.s. constitution. so, i do believe that the courts will deem these both illegal and unconstitutional. but, also, they are impractical. law enforcement will...
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>> right now, what trump does not have the money to do is go into arizona, nevada, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania. at the scale that joe biden can go in and do early advertising, organizing, the trump campaign was always a village and this time, they've been swept through and burned to the ground and scattered to the four winds. there is no "there." is not a real campaign being run. it comes down to control, causing chaos to generate that energy that he had in 2016 and was able to buy, in 2020 when he did have resources. >> i want to ask about russia, because yesterday was a setback for the russia wing of the republican party, this kind of anti-ukraine wing. it's something that donald trump basically held control over. what does it tell you, the fact that despite his best efforts to prevent the house from passing ukraine aid, it still passed? what does that tell you about his grip on the party when it comes to at least to this issue? >> there have been a number of full internally, at the congressional judicial fund and the nrc see that has told republicans the truth and that is that
>> right now, what trump does not have the money to do is go into arizona, nevada, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania. at the scale that joe biden can go in and do early advertising, organizing, the trump campaign was always a village and this time, they've been swept through and burned to the ground and scattered to the four winds. there is no "there." is not a real campaign being run. it comes down to control, causing chaos to generate that energy that he had in 2016 and was...
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. ♪♪ >>> new today, arizona senate candidate kari lake telling veterans to be ready as the 2024 campaign wraps -- ramps up and then she took it one step further. >> the next six months is going to be intense. and we need to strap on our -- let's see, what we want to strap on? we're going to strap on our seatbelt. we are going to put on the armor of god. >> [ applause ] >> and maybe strap on a glock on the side of us, just in case. >> yes, or maybe not. meanwhile, with evangelical christians making up 42% of trump voters in 2020 the groups power and its radicalism is growing. with me now is elizabeth newman, former senior adviser of the department of homeland security during the trump administration and author of the forthcoming book, kingdom of range, -- rage, the rise of christian extremism and the path back to peace. you know the politicians and other leaders have long used religion for power, for political gain, but you say, quote, during most of my lifetime, extremists were not allowed to participate in mainstream political discussions, they were kept at the fringes of society. is th
. ♪♪ >>> new today, arizona senate candidate kari lake telling veterans to be ready as the 2024 campaign wraps -- ramps up and then she took it one step further. >> the next six months is going to be intense. and we need to strap on our -- let's see, what we want to strap on? we're going to strap on our seatbelt. we are going to put on the armor of god. >> [ applause ] >> and maybe strap on a glock on the side of us, just in case. >> yes, or maybe not....
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i want to talk about arizona because for the second time in two weeks republicans in arizona even after they saw all of the response blocked an effort to repeal the abortion ban based on the law in 1864. this time there was video of republicans actually cheering on the floor of the legislature. what was going through your mind when you watch that? >> it sickens you. i have two young daughters. the fact they want to have the same rights that their mom and dad did. the same as their parents had. the fact we go back to the travel point. 160,000 women that had to leave their state. to access reproductive care. the fact that now you have them wanting to incarcerated five years up to life those women and those that support the women to get out of their respective states. the fact that we now have a been going back to 1864, and they are celebrating. i thought the republican party wanted to put a wrecking ball to the 21st century. now they want to create the 19th century. it is chilling and goes well beyond the issue of women's reproductive care. this consequential moment that absorbed most of
i want to talk about arizona because for the second time in two weeks republicans in arizona even after they saw all of the response blocked an effort to repeal the abortion ban based on the law in 1864. this time there was video of republicans actually cheering on the floor of the legislature. what was going through your mind when you watch that? >> it sickens you. i have two young daughters. the fact they want to have the same rights that their mom and dad did. the same as their parents...
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we are seeing it play out in places like arizona. we will continue to take the message to the american voter to let them know president biden wants to restore reproductive freedom and to make sure women have control not over their own bodies. >> it is not just reproductive control. i think the campaign looks more broadly at the country. i went to play for you the biden campaign and what you are familiar with, scranton. >> joe love scranton because since the beginning, president biden is my first cousin and it's like a pride of them still here. >> we are all hard-working people. , longtime friend of president joe biden. we go way back. even for grade school. he never forgot where he came from. >> this is an ad that cuts right to the heart of the country and goes right up the middle. is michigan and wisconsin and ohio. talk about the thinking come the sort of everyday feel of the campaign. you have the big issues like abortion and big issues like ukraine. at the end of the day, this will boil down to how people feel around the kitchen
we are seeing it play out in places like arizona. we will continue to take the message to the american voter to let them know president biden wants to restore reproductive freedom and to make sure women have control not over their own bodies. >> it is not just reproductive control. i think the campaign looks more broadly at the country. i went to play for you the biden campaign and what you are familiar with, scranton. >> joe love scranton because since the beginning, president...
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arizona, you have done it again. for the second time in two weeks, republicans and arizona state legislature rejected and attempted to repeal a near total abortion ban from 1864. >> people running into a burning house, and say hey, we got an exit. you can run out the back door and not be engulfed in flames and come with us. >> you can save all these women. >> new york city we're fine. we're going to keep them in the house. let it burn down. we're totally cool. go out the back door. the second time now, that democrats have tried to save republicans from their own worst 1864 instincts. what do they do? nope, we're good. we want to stick with the 1864 law. >> yeah, i mean, even if you hold the reprehensible view that someone who is raped must deliver the baby because you said so, do it for the politics. how about that? do it for political reasons that most people in your state think this is appalling and yet, you're standing by it. in fact, only two republicans joined all of the democrats in the house chamber in arizona
arizona, you have done it again. for the second time in two weeks, republicans and arizona state legislature rejected and attempted to repeal a near total abortion ban from 1864. >> people running into a burning house, and say hey, we got an exit. you can run out the back door and not be engulfed in flames and come with us. >> you can save all these women. >> new york city we're fine. we're going to keep them in the house. let it burn down. we're totally cool. go out the back...
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. >> a killer was on the loose in and around phoenix, arizona. systematically shooting innocent victims. >> a massive man hunt underway. >> police worked around the clock desperate for leads. >> thwe're asking the public to remain vigilant. >> a long weekend of terror that would lead to a hard question. did any of it have to happen? because this was a tragedy many people saw coming. including the first and most high profile victim. >> he was like nobody else i ever met. and that's true to this day. >> back in 2002, natalie collins was a young lawyer defending a medical malpractice case. when she met a forensic psychiatrist named dr. steven pitt. >> he was very intellectually honest, whether you wanted his opinion or not, you got it. he was fair. >> pitt was nationally known for his work on cases like the columbine massacre, and the murder of jon ramsey. when they met again a few years later, he asked her to lunch. >> i took him up on the offer. hi the longest lunch i've ever had. it was hours. it was fabulous. i loved every minute of it. >> hours
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and she said that she was talking about the second amendment right for arizona to defend themselves. in general. but that is not how some of her own supporters interpreted her comments. one entity told us that the signs are all there. for the possibility of a civil war. and we're not talking about the movie. my panel is back with me. ameshia cross, who is your choice? tom cotton or kari lake? >> this is dumb and dumber. they are neck and neck. it is frustrating. this is weiser promised violence we have seen before. that rhetoric. leading to violence in the streets. they are in leadership positions. with tom large forces tom cotton has 2 degrees from the harvard university. he knows better than what is out here doing it. kari lake. she is just trying to appeal to a base as crazy. that is going to go for her no matter what. but this level of violence in his rhetoric. it is not anything new. this was happening in the 1950s and the 1960s towards black people in jewish people. we have seen this before. and donald trump's help amplify this pic to give it voice to many individuals who are a
and she said that she was talking about the second amendment right for arizona to defend themselves. in general. but that is not how some of her own supporters interpreted her comments. one entity told us that the signs are all there. for the possibility of a civil war. and we're not talking about the movie. my panel is back with me. ameshia cross, who is your choice? tom cotton or kari lake? >> this is dumb and dumber. they are neck and neck. it is frustrating. this is weiser promised...
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and then there is arizona gop goober trial nominee turned senate candidate, kari lake. at a rally last week, lake advised supporters they can, quote, strapped on a glock to be prepared for the 2024 campaign. she urged military and law enforcement veterans to be ready. a representative said she would talk about the second amendment right for arizonans to defend themselves in general. that is not how some of her own supporters interpreted her, but one rally until he told nbc news, quote, the signs are all there for the possibility of a civil war. we are not talking about the movie. my panel is back with me. ameshia, i will start with you. who is the pick of the week, tom cotton art kari lake? >> reporter: these are dumb and dumber. i would argue that they are going neck and neck. that record leads to violence in the streets because coming from leadership positions to carry large voices. tom cotton is there right now. he has not one but two degrees from the harvard university. he knows better than what he is doing but terry lake, she is just trying to appeal to a base of c
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yesterday the congressman from arizona signing onto that and you also had thomas massey, who told me a couple hours ago that what he wants to see is speaker johnson voluntarily resign so they don't have to force this vote to vacate him and oust him from the speakership chair and have that circus that we saw back in the fall after kevin mccarthy was ousted and you had hakeem jeffries get more votes than any republican candidate for speaker. republicans were embarrassed by that moment. it was certainly a stain on the year that we have seen from them. they want to avoid it, they told me. but they still want to see johnson resign. when i asked if you would do so he did not answer, he walked away. we don't expect him to give up that easily, but a big question looming over his future here on capitol hill. >> i think if he does hillresig will still have a circus, but thank you. joining me now is congresswoman jennifer mckellen, congresswoman, thank you for joining us after today's house vote. let's start there, with the passage of aid packages for ukraine, israel and taiwan, as well as a ti
yesterday the congressman from arizona signing onto that and you also had thomas massey, who told me a couple hours ago that what he wants to see is speaker johnson voluntarily resign so they don't have to force this vote to vacate him and oust him from the speakership chair and have that circus that we saw back in the fall after kevin mccarthy was ousted and you had hakeem jeffries get more votes than any republican candidate for speaker. republicans were embarrassed by that moment. it was...
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at an event this week, the former arizona gubernatorial candidate dismissed the criminal cases the former president faces and used similarly violent rhetoric as the fommer president. >> he is willing to sacrifice everything. i am. that's why are they are coming after us with law fare. the next seven months will be intense. we need to strap on -- let's see. we will put on the armor of god. and maybe strap on the glock on the side of us just in case. you can put one heater and one in the back or one in the front, whatever you decide. >> we are going to put on the armor of god and maybe strap on a glock on the side of it, just in case. that's what she said. she has risen up the ranks by ingreigeiating herself to trump, a prominent election denier running for a crucial arizona senate state that could determine control of congress. she was not the only republican to endorse the use of force. on monday, tom cotton took aim at demonstrators who have been blocking traffic as a form of protests against the war in gaza. he encouraged people to take matters into your own hands to get them out of the
at an event this week, the former arizona gubernatorial candidate dismissed the criminal cases the former president faces and used similarly violent rhetoric as the fommer president. >> he is willing to sacrifice everything. i am. that's why are they are coming after us with law fare. the next seven months will be intense. we need to strap on -- let's see. we will put on the armor of god. and maybe strap on the glock on the side of us just in case. you can put one heater and one in the...
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the former arizona gubernatorial candidate kari lake did her best impression of the formal president, dismissing his criminal cases and using violent rhetoric. >> he is willing to sacrifice everything i am, that is why they are coming after us, they will come after us with everything and that is why the next six months will be intense. we need to strap on our -- let's see -- we will put on the armor of god. [ applause ] maybe strap on a glock just in case. [ applause ] you can put one here and one in the back, whatever you decide. >> we will put on the armor of god and maybe strap on a glock on the side just in case. she has been increasing herself to donald trump, and election tonight running for a crucial united states senate seat in arizona that could determine control of the chamber of commerce. she is not the only republican this week to endorse the use of physical force against people whose ideologies don't align with theirs. on monday, tom cotton took aim at demonstrators who have recently been blocking traffic as a form of protest against the ongoing assault in gaza by israel.
the former arizona gubernatorial candidate kari lake did her best impression of the formal president, dismissing his criminal cases and using violent rhetoric. >> he is willing to sacrifice everything i am, that is why they are coming after us, they will come after us with everything and that is why the next six months will be intense. we need to strap on our -- let's see -- we will put on the armor of god. [ applause ] maybe strap on a glock just in case. [ applause ] you can put one...
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may be very pro-life and moved on the issue given the draconian efforts by some states like texas, arizona and elsewhere, how are you beginning to assess not just the impact of your story, a very personal story and the real story that a lot of women and men can identify with but also you have these other stories emerging now. like the ap reporting emergency rooms refusing to treat pregnant women and leaving one to miscarry in a lobby restroom. how are these stories being woven together and admitted for a broader conversation of not just the personal impact but the real devastating impact that this has and could have for a lot of women across the country? >> it has been interesting. all the stories are so heartbreaking and difficult to hear. being out on the campaign trail and being able to meet folks across the country doing this work in fighting the fight has really opened my eyes to how the conversation has changed and how people are more willing to talk about their experiences. people are being vocal and sharing what happened to them and often in difficult communities and in difficult s
may be very pro-life and moved on the issue given the draconian efforts by some states like texas, arizona and elsewhere, how are you beginning to assess not just the impact of your story, a very personal story and the real story that a lot of women and men can identify with but also you have these other stories emerging now. like the ap reporting emergency rooms refusing to treat pregnant women and leaving one to miscarry in a lobby restroom. how are these stories being woven together and...
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let's talk about that race in arizona and carrie lake. joining us now ruben gallego of arizona. member of the house armed services committee, anne-marie -- marine corps combat veteran and now candidate for u.s. senate. thank you for being with us today. can you >> about the fallout, just in the days since this ruling that in 1864 abortion law is in fact enforceable, according to the supreme court in arizona? first and foremost, talk about the politics later, but what it means for women in the state of arizona. >> it's horrific. there's just no other way about it. women are scared. and they should be. there is no exceptions to this law. for cgtn -- raped or incest . it will jill providers. they are scared. we are only a state that has the most restrictive ban in the country and then you have politicians that are all of the place. they largely were for this, until they caught the car, as you said. >> player. >> yeah. congressman, i first would like you to talk a little bit about carrie lake and her, really, just outright lying about how she talked about this law as a great law. sh
let's talk about that race in arizona and carrie lake. joining us now ruben gallego of arizona. member of the house armed services committee, anne-marie -- marine corps combat veteran and now candidate for u.s. senate. thank you for being with us today. can you >> about the fallout, just in the days since this ruling that in 1864 abortion law is in fact enforceable, according to the supreme court in arizona? first and foremost, talk about the politics later, but what it means for women in...
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florida, arizona and now nevada will have ballot measures regarding reproductive rights. how important are those ballot measures in november? >> they are critical. nothing is much more urgent right now than florida and arizona. nevada, it's a really big step. they have protected abortion access. they will have to go to the ballot twice to get this in the constitution. so it's really, really important but what is hair on fire urgent are florida and arizona where you have florida a six week ban about to go into effect which is as we know before most people know they are pregnant and may as well be a total ban and arizona this wild, 1800's abortion ban that's a total ban. voters this november can fix that, can stop these bans in their tracks and for the next couple of months we will have outcomes for pregnant people in those states, particularly in florida. florida is a critical part of the southeast part of this country where it was one of the last few places you could access care and now you will have to go up to virginia to get that care in the south. >> you know there co
florida, arizona and now nevada will have ballot measures regarding reproductive rights. how important are those ballot measures in november? >> they are critical. nothing is much more urgent right now than florida and arizona. nevada, it's a really big step. they have protected abortion access. they will have to go to the ballot twice to get this in the constitution. so it's really, really important but what is hair on fire urgent are florida and arizona where you have florida a six week...
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today, the far right arizona, rissman paul goes-r announced he would be joining his colleagues marjorie taylor greene and thomas massey of kentucky in supporting a measure to oust speaker mike johnson. a so-called motion to vacate. if all democrats vote together against the speaker, mike johnson can only afford to lose two republican votes to save his receipt. the republican congress and mike gallagher is expended to leave congress, after each speaker johnson can only afford to lose a single vote. spec that was a thin margin, the speaker is projecting confidence he's going to stay in the job. >> are you worried about your job ? >> i don't worry, i just do my job. >> is it time to put the motion to vacate on the floor? >> we will see what happens. i'm not deterred by threats. we will do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may. >> three republicans now seemingly committed to ousting johnson, the speaker will need help from democrats in order to stay in his job. will any of them help him? today, the house minority leader, hakeem jeffries, cup reporters and suspense about what
today, the far right arizona, rissman paul goes-r announced he would be joining his colleagues marjorie taylor greene and thomas massey of kentucky in supporting a measure to oust speaker mike johnson. a so-called motion to vacate. if all democrats vote together against the speaker, mike johnson can only afford to lose two republican votes to save his receipt. the republican congress and mike gallagher is expended to leave congress, after each speaker johnson can only afford to lose a single...
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and arizona, this wild 1800s abortion ban is a total ban. voters this november can fix hi that and stop these bams. for the next couple months, we are going to have devastating out comes for pregnant people in the state, particularly florida. florida is a critical part of the geography of this country. it was one of the last few places you could access care. now women are going to have to go all the way up to virginia to get help in the south. >> there are horror stories about emergency care. i know some republicans are shocked to discover it, but do you ever find real voters who are surprised about the broad ri implications of these bams? >> yes, there are voters beginning to dial in. they understood what happened with roe, it is shocking to understand that emergency care that has already been available to so many americans can be denied. those er players are so terrified of being prosecuted or investigated by the states. the links in which these modern gop controlled ban states are going to punish doctors and their patience will make care
and arizona, this wild 1800s abortion ban is a total ban. voters this november can fix hi that and stop these bams. for the next couple months, we are going to have devastating out comes for pregnant people in the state, particularly florida. florida is a critical part of the geography of this country. it was one of the last few places you could access care. now women are going to have to go all the way up to virginia to get help in the south. >> there are horror stories about emergency...
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today the far right arizona congressman announced he would be joining his colleagues green and massey of kentucky in supporting a measure to oust the speaker johnson which is a so called motion to vacate. if all democrats vote together against the speaker mike johnson can only afford to lose two republican votes to lose his seat. and mike gallagher is expected to leave congress sometime after this weekend's vote which after the speaker johnson could only afford to lose a single vote. despite that razor thin margin, the speaker is projecting confidence he's going to stay on the job. >> are you worried about your job? >> i don't worry. i just do my job. >> is it time to just put the motion to vacate on the floor? >> we'll see what happens. i'm going to do my job. i'm not detered by threats. we're going to do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may. >> with three republicans now seemingly committed to ousting johnson, the speaker will need help from democrats in order to stay in his job. so will any of them help him? today the house minority leader jeffreys kept reporters i
today the far right arizona congressman announced he would be joining his colleagues green and massey of kentucky in supporting a measure to oust the speaker johnson which is a so called motion to vacate. if all democrats vote together against the speaker mike johnson can only afford to lose two republican votes to lose his seat. and mike gallagher is expected to leave congress sometime after this weekend's vote which after the speaker johnson could only afford to lose a single vote. despite...
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the republicans have ever paid a price for doing to the state what they have done in arizona and florida. why aren't there more political consequences for somebody like a brian kemp who did this to women here? >> because what republicans are doing is playing the game of slap and damage. in their minds, many of them, not all, but many of them say oh, that may be bad but in my mind, that's collateral damage i except for saving babies right and what i think america has not done is connect that across all the issues. the collateral damage game is the game they always play. it may be bad to separate immigrants from their children but that's collateral damage we have to accept in order to secure the border. it may be bad to have school shootings but that's collateral damage we have to except to have our insane view of the second amendment. police shootings may be bad but is something we have to accept to keep crime low. until we start to connect all of this and don't just fight when it's your issue, why would anybody make the collateral damage argument that some people are disposable what we a
the republicans have ever paid a price for doing to the state what they have done in arizona and florida. why aren't there more political consequences for somebody like a brian kemp who did this to women here? >> because what republicans are doing is playing the game of slap and damage. in their minds, many of them, not all, but many of them say oh, that may be bad but in my mind, that's collateral damage i except for saving babies right and what i think america has not done is connect...
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. >>> a third republican, congressman paul gosar of arizona, has joined the effort to oust mike johnson after the house voted to move forward with u.s. aid to ukraine and israel. the rules committee vote -- excuse me, the vote was 316-94, with more democrats than republicans voting to move forward. democrats also helped get the measure out of the rules committee last night. a bipartisan action that is infuriating the speaker's maga republican critics. a final vote is expected tomorrow. the speaker was asked before the vote whether he was worried about keeping his job. >> is it time to call the bluff and put the motion to vacate on the floor? >> we will see what happens. i'm going to do my job. i'm not deterred by threats. we will do the right thing. let the chips fall where they may. >> joining me now is nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles. the speaker has transformed in the last 48 hours. he is brushing off the challenges. congressman gosar joining marjorie taylor greene to try to oust the speaker. what does that mean? is the world going to see u.s. aid to ukraine? >> repor
. >>> a third republican, congressman paul gosar of arizona, has joined the effort to oust mike johnson after the house voted to move forward with u.s. aid to ukraine and israel. the rules committee vote -- excuse me, the vote was 316-94, with more democrats than republicans voting to move forward. democrats also helped get the measure out of the rules committee last night. a bipartisan action that is infuriating the speaker's maga republican critics. a final vote is expected tomorrow....
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talk to your neurologist about vyvgart. ♪♪ >>> arizona house republicans once again blocked a move to repeal the 1864 near total abortion ban that was enacted when lincoln was president. i wouldn't be allowed to be here. a separate bill in the arizona senate has moved forward but it will be weeks before they take it up. the 19th century law is set to go back into effect in june. the ripple effects are set to be felt for months. yesterday, election handicapper larry sabato. the arizona senate race he says now has moved from being a toss-up to being in favor of democratic representative ruben gallego actually taking the seat and winning against former republican gubernatorial loser kari lake. that's all because of the abortion ruling. this political earthquake will help mobilize voters in a state that joe biden and kamala harris need to win. meanwhile, in pennsylvania, another key state they need to win, a fall ings of robert f. kennedy siblings and family members endorse president joe biden. >> president biden has been a champion for all the rights and freedoms that my father and uncle
talk to your neurologist about vyvgart. ♪♪ >>> arizona house republicans once again blocked a move to repeal the 1864 near total abortion ban that was enacted when lincoln was president. i wouldn't be allowed to be here. a separate bill in the arizona senate has moved forward but it will be weeks before they take it up. the 19th century law is set to go back into effect in june. the ripple effects are set to be felt for months. yesterday, election handicapper larry sabato. the...
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think they will tell you, yes, they are because in key states, if he gets on the ballot in a state like arizona, in a state like nevada, and he's trying to desperately, and a lot of people predict that he will, he can take votes away. he can take votes away from hispanic voters, which i reported earlier this week, one in five hispanic voters could go for him. that's the race. that's the ball game. i think they're very concerned. that's why they're having -- they have a big dnc effort now to go after rfk jr. they know -- they are concerned about this, and they're not taking it for granted, and so this endorsement matters in a big, big way to them right now. >> the endorsement could be symbolic, but does it have momentum to actually shift people's votes or make up minds is my big question. you had a few weeks ago, you know, barack obama and bill clinton offering endorsements and having this big event to support joe biden. today it's the kennedy family. is it more about not losing votes, or about gaining votes? >> i think both, stopping the bleeding, and also gaining votes because they're worried.
think they will tell you, yes, they are because in key states, if he gets on the ballot in a state like arizona, in a state like nevada, and he's trying to desperately, and a lot of people predict that he will, he can take votes away. he can take votes away from hispanic voters, which i reported earlier this week, one in five hispanic voters could go for him. that's the race. that's the ball game. i think they're very concerned. that's why they're having -- they have a big dnc effort now to go...
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the arizona republican party is basically saying, no. we're completely comfortable with this even though it's probably going to cost them -- control the legislature, cost them the, you know, u.s. senate seat, and probably is going to tip arizona over in the presidential election, but this is one of the, you know, again, part of what makes this fascinating is kind of the trick box that donald trump has put republicans in where he says, okay, you know, i am the pro-life president. we have overturned roe versus wade, but it's completely now up to the states. states' rights, except look at what the states are doing. so while he's trying to sound moderate, he owns every one of these extreme draconian laws, and republicans are not backing off, but it was an amazing scene in arizona. >> unbelievable. >> i just don't understand why the women of arizona are going to have to go through the process of showing politicians what these abortion bans will mean to their lives, and when you mention rape victims, incest victims, people with fetal abnormali
the arizona republican party is basically saying, no. we're completely comfortable with this even though it's probably going to cost them -- control the legislature, cost them the, you know, u.s. senate seat, and probably is going to tip arizona over in the presidential election, but this is one of the, you know, again, part of what makes this fascinating is kind of the trick box that donald trump has put republicans in where he says, okay, you know, i am the pro-life president. we have...
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of dueling laws and which one is in effect have actually prevented people from getting abortions in arizona even when it's legal and allowed. so it has real life consequences. but the politics of it i think there's no reason to believe arizona is going to be tremendously different from many of these even red states when the democratic process the supreme court said it wanted to allow in dobbs actually happens. voters are going to say actually we want abortion to be legal, we want it to be safe, and we want it to be accessible. >> thank you for your great reporting on this. really appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you. >> that is our show for tonight. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is coming up next. >>> i think providing legal aid to ukraine right now is critically important. i really do. this is not a game, not a joke. we can't play politics with this. we have to do the right thing. i'm going to allow an opportunity for every single member of the house to vote their conscience and will on this. i'm willing to take personal risk for that because we have to do the right thing and
of dueling laws and which one is in effect have actually prevented people from getting abortions in arizona even when it's legal and allowed. so it has real life consequences. but the politics of it i think there's no reason to believe arizona is going to be tremendously different from many of these even red states when the democratic process the supreme court said it wanted to allow in dobbs actually happens. voters are going to say actually we want abortion to be legal, we want it to be safe,...
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contrast that with the legislators in arizona. the house and the senate are both controlled by republicans. there are i believe one in each chamber cross over votes. when the motion to appeal or the motion to begin debate on the appeal failed, when it was blocked by republicans, they cheered. so on the one hand you have kari lake working the phones and trump saying this goes too far, but when push comes to shove, there are plenty of republicans who are thrilled that the 19th century is coming back to rule the women of arizona. >> there republicans won't do it and democrats can't do it. it feels like the voters of arizona will do it. we now know republicans are concerned a ballot referendum might enshrine the right to abortion in the arizona constitution therefore overriding the ban. and arizona republicans want to add a second referenda to the ballot to confuse things, and i wonder if you think they could be successful in that or whether arizonians are paying close enough attention here that it won't work? >> i was on the phone to
contrast that with the legislators in arizona. the house and the senate are both controlled by republicans. there are i believe one in each chamber cross over votes. when the motion to appeal or the motion to begin debate on the appeal failed, when it was blocked by republicans, they cheered. so on the one hand you have kari lake working the phones and trump saying this goes too far, but when push comes to shove, there are plenty of republicans who are thrilled that the 19th century is coming...
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that why kari lake didn't win in arizona as you covered that race. >> you are defined by your enemies. >> but there is a reason that politicians don't generally court negative attention. they are not like, they are not pop stars and they are not shock jocks. they have a different job, which is to get 50 plus plus one. if you get negative attention, that hurts you and that has been the mathematical case with donald trumpment we just lost sight of it. the negative attention doesn't make him more popular even if it supercharges his base. >> i know he still wants to be liked. >> he doesn't like the negative attention. >> he operates like a human ab test. he looks at the last reaction he got and if it got him a lot of attention, he just repeats it again. he registered amplitude of reaction. but not whether it is negative or positive. he considers failure when people ignore him. >> i also think the sheer duration of this. i just keep thinking about, again, i actually find it sort of relatable. i think i would have a hard time sitting still that many hours. the sheer duration of what is happ
that why kari lake didn't win in arizona as you covered that race. >> you are defined by your enemies. >> but there is a reason that politicians don't generally court negative attention. they are not like, they are not pop stars and they are not shock jocks. they have a different job, which is to get 50 plus plus one. if you get negative attention, that hurts you and that has been the mathematical case with donald trumpment we just lost sight of it. the negative attention doesn't...
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the democratic governor of the state of arizona joins us now. thank you for being here, this has been blocked twice, why are you hopeful can pass with democrats bringing it up another time? >> i am not necessarily hopeful. today was the second time since the devastating ruling that reinstates this 1864 total abortion ban that republicans in the legislature have blocked a move to repeal it. they blocked it not once but twice. they are not in line with the majority of citizens that do not want this draconian band. they have made it clear since the ruling that they want it repealed and raised republicans do not do the right thing i know voters will hold them accountable this november. >> why are the republicans doing it then? they want to be in office and get elected again. if republicans in your state do not want this man, what is the rationale? >> you would have to ask them that, from my position it looks like they're just playing political games with women's lives in arizona. it is beyond unfortunate, we know the band will have devastating conse
the democratic governor of the state of arizona joins us now. thank you for being here, this has been blocked twice, why are you hopeful can pass with democrats bringing it up another time? >> i am not necessarily hopeful. today was the second time since the devastating ruling that reinstates this 1864 total abortion ban that republicans in the legislature have blocked a move to repeal it. they blocked it not once but twice. they are not in line with the majority of citizens that do not...
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what you are hearing in arizona is people scrambling. notice what the republicans are offering to put on the ballot directly relies on trying to confuse people. to be clear some of it is harming patients because all of these dueling laws and which one is in effect has prevented people from getting abortions in arizona even when it is legal and allowed. so it has consequences but the politics of it, there is no reason to think arizona will be different from many of the red states where the democratic process of the supreme court said it wanted to allow dobbs, voters will say actually we want abortion to be legal safe and accessible. >> thank you for your great reporting on this. i appreciate your time tonight. >>> that is our show for tonight, now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >>> we have andrew weitzman joining us and andrew who used to work in the ag's office in new york. both have much to teach us about the status of defendant trump tonight. >>> breaking news about defendant trump, he appears to have violated th
what you are hearing in arizona is people scrambling. notice what the republicans are offering to put on the ballot directly relies on trying to confuse people. to be clear some of it is harming patients because all of these dueling laws and which one is in effect has prevented people from getting abortions in arizona even when it is legal and allowed. so it has consequences but the politics of it, there is no reason to think arizona will be different from many of the red states where the...
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. >> looks like the voters in arizona will do it. they are concerned a referendum will in trying abortion in the state legislation. they want to add a second referendum to the ballot to confuse things. i wonder if you think they can be successful or if citizens are paying close enough attention that it will not work? >> i was on the phone with a spokeswoman for that campaign and she believes that people in arizona will not be fooled. we are seeing a sustained voter outreach and interest in seeing past the office to occasion. voters didn't fall for a change in rules and they went on to pass it overwhelmingly. what you are hearing in arizona is people scrambling. notice what the republicans are offering to put on the ballot directly relies on trying to confuse people. to be clear some of it is harming patients because all of these dueling laws and which one is in effect has prevented people from getting abortions in arizona even when it is legal and allowed. so it has consequences but the politics of it, there is no reason to think ari
. >> looks like the voters in arizona will do it. they are concerned a referendum will in trying abortion in the state legislation. they want to add a second referendum to the ballot to confuse things. i wonder if you think they can be successful or if citizens are paying close enough attention that it will not work? >> i was on the phone with a spokeswoman for that campaign and she believes that people in arizona will not be fooled. we are seeing a sustained voter outreach and...
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democratic governor of arizona katie hobbs joins us now. thank you for being here, this has blocked twice. why are you hopeful it could pass with democrats bringing it up another time? >> well, i'm not necessarily hopeful. today was the second time since this devastating ruling that reinstates this 1864 total abortion ban that republicans in the legislature have blocked a move to repeal it. and they blocked it not once today, but twice. they are not just in line with the majority of people in arizona who do not want this draconian ban. they made it clear since this ruling that they want this ban repealed and if republicans in the legislature don't do the right thing, i know that voters are going to hold them accountable this november. >> then why are these republicans doing it? right, they want to be in office. they want to get elected again. if even republicans in your state don't want this ban, what is the rationale they are giving for blocking it? >> well, you would have to ask them that. but from my position, it looks like they are just
democratic governor of arizona katie hobbs joins us now. thank you for being here, this has blocked twice. why are you hopeful it could pass with democrats bringing it up another time? >> well, i'm not necessarily hopeful. today was the second time since this devastating ruling that reinstates this 1864 total abortion ban that republicans in the legislature have blocked a move to repeal it. and they blocked it not once today, but twice. they are not just in line with the majority of...
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