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gb news. >> a very good evening to you. and welcome to farage with me. martin daubney standing in for nigel tonight. coming up on tonight's show. we'll speak to gb news patrick christys, who is at the scene in peckham earlier today, which ended with a number of arrests after protesters and police clashed as the home office begun the transfer of asylum seekers to the bibby stockholm barge in dorset. next up, we'll head to ireland as they plan to send police officers to the border to stop migrants entering the country, intensifying the row with the uk. and guess where they put those asylum seekers from a
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tented city into a luxury hotel? we'll have that exclusive video and after the carnage and violent clashes at university campuses in the usa over the past few days, we'll look at the pro—palestine groups now setting up camp in universities across britain, all that and more after your news with sam francis. >> martin, thank you very much and good evening to you. it's just after 7:00. the headlines this hour, more than 700 migrants have arrived in the uk after crossing the channel in a single day. that's a new record for the year so far. home office figures show 711 people made the journey in 14 boats on wednesday, suggesting an average of 51 people per boat. and that bnngs of 51 people per boat. and that brings the total number who've made the crossing since january to nearly 8300. that's up 34% compared to the same time last yeah compared to the same time last year. meanwhile, police have arrested 45 people after a large
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group of protesters blocked a coach to stop it, leaving with migrants on board. footage showed officers surrounding the bus and removing several protesters , while others joining protesters, while others joining the demonstration sat in the road. the bus was supposed to take seven migrants to the bibby stockholm barge in dorset, but eventually left without them. downing street has called the protests today as unacceptable . protests today as unacceptable. a samurai sword attacker has appeared in court charged with the murder of a 14 year old schoolboy in north—east london, daniel anjorin was fatally stabbed on tuesday morning as he made his way to school. marcus monzo, who's a spanish brazilian dual national, is also charged with two counts of attempted murder and injuring four other people when he broke into a house where a family were sleeping. the 36 year old has been remanded in custody and he's next due to appear at the old bailey . well, polls are open old bailey. well, polls are open for a few more hours in local elections , which are taking elections, which are taking place in many parts of england and wales. seats are up for
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grabs on 107 local authorities, while there are also votes for mayors, some police commissioners and there's a by—election in blackpool south voting in many parts of england and wales ends tonight at 10:00. in the us, president joe biden has called for order on college campuses after violent clashes between police and protesters in california. hundreds of riot police moved in on pro—palestine protests in los angeles, and police there say they've made hundreds of arrests during crackdowns on those demonstrations . meanwhile, here demonstrations. meanwhile, here in the uk, students have also set up their own sit in camps in protest against israel's war with hamas students in sheffield, in leeds, newcastle and in bristol set up tents outside their campus buildings, with organisers suggesting those demonstrations could spread across the uk. and finally , across the uk. and finally, before we head back to martin in westminster, we've heard that today was the warmest day of the year so far in all four home nations. despite more warnings
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of storms and flooding to come. england, wales, scotland and northern ireland all recorded a temperature above 20 c and the peak temperature was 23.4 degrees recorded in santon downham in suffolk. meanwhile, two buildings in sussex were damaged overnight by lightning and a care home was also hit, causing damage to its roof and the storm overnight also damaged. a university building in chichester and disrupted power supplies . those are the power supplies. those are the headlines. more at 8:00. until then , you can sign up to gb news then, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the qr code there on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts. >> thank you sam. now, the home secretary has insisted that protesters will not stop migrants being removed from hotels after a group slashed the tires of a coach set to transport them to the bibby stockholm barge earlier today , stockholm barge earlier today, hundreds of protesters wearing covid face masks surrounded the
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vehicle outside the best western hotel in peckham , south—east hotel in peckham, south—east london, just down the road from where i live, to try and prevent the migrants removal. well, after more than six hours of protesters blocking the way , the protesters blocking the way, the coach eventually managed to leave with a police escort but without a single illegal migrant on board. well, our very own patrick christys was on the scene this morning and joins me now. patrick, i've seen the footage you certainly got stuck in. you're on the front line. tell me what you saw. >> yeah, it was quite an astonishing scene, actually, martin. and i'll be showing our viewers at 9 pm. everything that happened on that day by the time i arrived there, the protesters and activists were already surrounding the bus. they'd slashed the tires, they'd wedged bikes underneath it, and it was an increasingly volatile atmosphere. i'm just going to throw it to one of two clips that i'll bring to you now, which encapsulates a little bit of what was going on, an individual being carried into a police van here, shouts of shame on you! see, this is an
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incredibly tense atmosphere here. that individual was pushed into the streets. there's another man on the side, i saw it, i saw it, yeah, and it is on film. yes. okay there's a lot more of that. but in amongst all the melee and like i was saying, there's a lot more footage than this, martin. but in amongst the melee, unfortunately, my cameraman was assaulted. he was hit in the back of the head. and we do have some footage here of the aftermath of that . now, this the aftermath of that. now, this individual, this individual is just assaulted. a gb news cameraman and is going to be arrested by police as it currently stands, as you can see. oh, the police appear to have just let him walk off. keep rolling ben, keep rolling . ben. rolling ben, keep rolling. ben. yeah, that man was allowed to just simply wander off. and what we witnessed was basically mob rule. to be honest with you, martin, there wasn't any riot gear or police horses in sight. unlike certain other events recently that we've all seen . as recently that we've all seen. as you've said, that bus did eventually leave under a police
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escort, but without anybody on it . it. >> now, patrick, i know this area well. in fact, it's just down the road from me. that hotel used to be and only fools and horses tourist hotel before it was taken over by asylum seekers. in fact, my mrs. once stayed there when she got locked out. now it's full of bikes in the forecourt and what we saw today, patrick scenes were replicated from june 2022 a couple of summers ago . in fact, couple of summers ago. in fact, a mob in peckham, just around the corner from this, surrounded a riot van that was attempting to remove a nigerian who had illegally overstayed his visa. patrick. back then, the police did absolutely nothing. the mob won once again. whilst today patrick, in your opinion, having been there, finally 45 arrests were made in the end but was today precipitated by the fact that the police just stood off and did nothing. >> yeah, the police had been there for hours before initially surrounding the bus, with the
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protesters still essentially doing the arm locks around it. i kept waiting for the police to move in and to do something for us to get that on film, and that basically never really happened. when the police did get people in vans. and again, we've got this on footage. those police vans would also be surrounded in scenes that you alluded to there from earlier in peckham. the problem was that this was allowed to become much bigger than it would have been if it was nipped in the bud quickly. you're looking at footage there of the police standing around. i appreciate they've got a difficult job to do, i really do, and everyone's got their camera phones out. but by standing around and letting this thing swell, letting this thing become a bigger thing , what will become a bigger thing, what will happen now is this will embolden other people and the police, whether it's i mean, i'm assuming i can only assume martin, this is because they're not getting clear orders from above to actually go in and act and detain people . but there was and detain people. but there was just a lot of standing around and not a lot of action. and it was volatile. there was criminal damage being committed and there were people assaulting other people. so it does beg the question, what do you have to do
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in order to actually have a bit more police action? >> and of course, patrick, we all know in britain we have a right to protest fundamentally built into our constitution, into our democrat way of life. nobodyis into our democrat way of life. nobody is saying we are not allowed to protest. but as you said there, patrick, i believe the tires were slashed and a scooter was thrown underneath it, preventing this vehicle from going away not by peaceful protest, but by outright vandalism . yeah. vandalism. yeah. >> and you've also just got the mass disruption as well. so an entire road was blocked when we got there. it was still initially open, but as the crowds grew and as more police officers attended the, you know, the arterial road through peckham, which is a very busy part of london, was completely shut off as well . so you've got shut off as well. so you've got people there breaking the law on numerous different fronts . of numerous different fronts. of course, martin, i did ask a few of them whether or not they'd had to take the day off work for this, and nobody said yes. >> now , patrick, i know this >> now, patrick, i know this area. in fact, when a local beauty salon was, it was there was a protest outside there that was a protest outside there that
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was peckham hair and cosmetics. there was a huge protest. i went to that one. patrick, somebody told the protester there that i was from gb news. i was recognised, i was very quickly surrounded patrick. he got very tasty, very quickly . did you tasty, very quickly. did you feel that once gb news was mentioned that you felt annual cameramen felt an immediate peril? >> well, yeah . i mean, obviously >> well, yeah. i mean, obviously i've got a bit of experience doing these things now with some of the pro—palestine protests as well. there is definitely a crossover, by the way. i mean, the amount of pro—palestine flags and badges that you're seeing on those. i suspect that there was well, i've got a very good indication, martin as well, that some of the kind of usual just stop oil activists were also involved in this. there is also involved in this. there is a crossover in that venn diagram of individuals there, and that while i will say is that they're just generally hostile towards the media. okay so it's not just a gb news thing. however, once they do find out your gb news, yes, they do tend to kick off. the way i view it is this and everyone can make their own minds up later on from, you know, the incredible footage that we've got. but if they want to be portrayed in a particular light, then they can do that to
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themselves, i was having conversations with individuals, and when people then say, oh, where are you from? from gb news if they then choose to kick off, then that's the impression they are giving to the world. that's not my fault. i've not done that. i'm perfectly happy to stand there and have normal conversations as that footage bears out. >> yeah, we've got some footage here we can show now, patrick, of that protest at peckham hair and cosmetics. you recall the owner of this shop was forced into hiding an asian owned business, after he grappled a customer who he claimed was attempting to shoplift. that business was forced to close down for many days. in fact, to my knowledge , the business owner my knowledge, the business owner has never returned to work in that shop. a very, very volatile atmosphere and i put it to you on those streets, patrick, around peckham and in many parts of london, many parts of britain, it's starting to feel now that the tail is wagging the dog, that the mob is in control and the police are simply afraid to intervene, that that group of people was controllable. >> it could have been
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controlled, you know, it was people essentially sitting around a bus and you had points there. it felt like just as many police as protesters. so it was possible. it was doable . there possible. it was doable. there was, in my view, a choice made at some point to not do that much about it. i am not privy to the same kind of intelligence as the same kind of intelligence as the police were. maybe there was method to their madness, but i think what a lot of people will wonder is why? why is it that if you are perhaps backing a certain cause and doing certain things and behaving in a certain way, you will get that kind of lenient treatment from the police. there was no mask dispersal order. we saw that on saint george's day. they tweeted that out. everyone there was covering their identity. they can say and do what they want, and they did not appear to be a massive appetite. martin, to get that bus moving and to enforce what is, may i add, government policy? >> indeed, one rule for them, one rule for everyone else. and the full exclusive tonight on patrick christys tonight, 9 to 11 as ever, patrick. first to the scene and fearless. good work tom man. now let's turn to kevin saunders who's the former chief immigration officer in calais for uk border force who
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joins us from lincolnshire. always a pleasure to speak to you, kev. we saw today , quite you, kev. we saw today, quite simply, a dispersal order they were attempting to get seven, seven illegal immigrants, asylum seekers to the bibby stockholm . seekers to the bibby stockholm. the mob descended. kevin, i've got a question for you. a lot of people have been saying to me earlier on on my show, how did the mob find out? is there some sort of leak, do you think going on i that's that's exactly the question that i've been asking. >> how the hell did the mob find out what was going on? because i suspect that somebody, somewhere has spoken to the . media about has spoken to the. media about it, because otherwise, how would they know? it's astonishing, but it's absolutely outrage, martin. it really is. you cannot have , a it really is. you cannot have, a mob rule in south east london, in fact, where. >> kevin. frozen kevin's frozen .
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>> kevin. frozen kevin's frozen. not a problem. what he was about to say was, i think, and i've been inundated with emails all day on my show. you know how did this information leak out? how is it that every time there seems to be a police raid, we saw it before, as i said in june 2022, an immigration van turned up to perfectly legally within the constraints of our law remove a nigerian from the area who'd overstayed his visa and hey presto, lo and behold , a mob hey presto, lo and behold, a mob turned up. 200 protesters turned up at that time , and they up at that time, and they surrounded a van and they prevented that. that solitary individual being removed from the area that emboldened the mob. i believe today. the area that emboldened the mob. i believe today . and the mob. i believe today. and the same tactics were done. they simply blocked the pavement and they wouldn't even get seven illegal asylum seekers to the bibby stockholm barge. if indeed that was where they were going.
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who's telling them? how do they know? i think there are big questions that need to be answered on this story. now coming up, we'll head over to ireland to find out what's happened to the asylum seekers who created a tent city in dubun who created a tent city in dublin . it's now been destroyed, dublin. it's now been destroyed, but where have they gone? we'll find out next. we've got some exclusive video footage to show that these people that once lived in a tent are now living the high life. this is farage as
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gb news. welcome back to farage with me standing in martin daubney. it's 7:18. got some of your feedback . 7:18. got some of your feedback. quick. off the mark to that original story there about the shocking scenes in peckham where a mob surrounded a coach and prevented it taking seven asylum seekers, allegedly to the bibby stockholm , a viewer says it's stockholm, a viewer says it's absolutely disgraceful. police
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farce saint george's day police had riot gear today. the police allowed the mob to rule. you know , it's undeniable that that know, it's undeniable that that often is the case. i was on the armistice day, protest out there. the police were very quickly tooled up for that one, and they were very quickly tooled up on saint george's day, very, very different tactics. kettling coming to on the crowd today, it almost looked like they were standing around bald and simply watching it as it went on. tires were slashed , went on. tires were slashed, vehicles were put underneath that coach. a human blockade formed around it. as patrick christys said he was there for that build up. that crowd could have been dispersed much, much earlier . have been dispersed much, much earlier. that didn't happen. it emboldened the crowd, and that's what to led this complete gridlock of the entire area. not a single one of those asylum seekers was able to get away today. colin adds this i told rishi sunak that he would never get these people on the plane . get these people on the plane. you know, a lot of people have been saying, are all of these delaying tactics simply part and parcel of where about to head
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next? the rwanda bill got through. it's staggered through in the end, but are we about to see the charities? the ngos, the home office? more of that later in the show. the entire system, the judiciary, the media, the lineker rights. alves, are they going to step up now to do the job to finish it off? ellen adds this these protesters should be arrested for causing an obstruction if the police are incapable of dealing with them, then get the army. in strong words, there , alan and another words, there, alan and another viewer adds this there is certainly a leak from the home office. i put that to kevin saunders from border force earlier on my show earlier, people were saying, how on earth did the protesters know that ? as did the protesters know that? as if by magic, this coach would turn up to that hotel at that time and they were able to form an effective blockade? a lot of people, kevin saunders included, who, if you recall, used to be a chief of immigration at border force . he thinks it seems like force. he thinks it seems like there surely is some kind of
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leak. how do they know to be in that precise location at that precise time to do their work? and if you recall, i said before the break in the same postcode in peckham , just down the road in peckham, just down the road from where i live . in june 2022, from where i live. in june 2022, a van which was attempting to legally remove an asylum seeker who had overstayed his visa, a nigerian man, 200 protesters surrounded a van, prevented that from leaving. we saw similar scenes in glasgow and the thing is, the more of these things that go on, the more they will get emboldened to do the same. now, john adds, this mob rule cannot be allowed to prevail as my late father used to say, perhaps it is time we had a national guard. you know, a lot of people say often , don't they, of people say often, don't they, on this channel, john. now, where is that discipline gone? where is that social cohesion? how how come so many people walked past that without doing anything about it? now, louise says this , the metropolitan
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says this, the metropolitan police showed yet again how useless they are today at peckham. you know, patrick christys added . they're caught christys added. they're caught between a rock and a hard place. it's easy to blame the officers on the ground, but is the big question. the orders from above, are they not being to told move in? that's the point. another one says this the country is just a mess. it is one thing after another. we need to sort this out, martin says. unfortunately this country has gone to the dogs. this government and the police should have stopped these protests when they started . now moving on, they started. now moving on, let's turn our attention to scotland now, where kate forbes has confirmed that she will not run to be the next leader of the snp. now scotland's former finance secretary said that the only way to deliver urgent change in scotland is through john swinney's leadership and thatis john swinney's leadership and that is exactly who she will now be supporting. well, the snp msp rounded off her statement and said you can be certain that
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delivering on the priorities for which we have together advocated in recent years has been at the heart of today's decision. well, tony maguire, our scotland reporter, sent this report for us. >> us. >> good afternoon. i am here, still outside holyrood, parliament in edinburgh , and not parliament in edinburgh, and not long ago we heard that kate forbes, last year's runner up to humza yousaf in the snp leadership race, will not be seeking a run again this year. this just came hours after we heard from john swinney , nicola heard from john swinney, nicola sturgeon's former deputy first minister, who indeed will be looking to replace humza yousaf now. he himself was actually previous leader of the scottish national party and led the snp into a european election back in 2003, which unfortunately at the time did not work out so well for him. but he will be looking for him. but he will be looking for a second bite at the cherry now. and you know, he brings
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with himself a huge support from the snp party in and of itself. now what is interesting is he is also recognised the merits , the also recognised the merits, the qualities, if you like, of kate forbes and he was using language to describe herlike intelligent and creative, and it sounds very much like he has her pegged for a real top spot in his government if and when he is elected as the leader. now we're about half way through the nomination process. i got to say, over the last few days there were some other names, smaller names like neil grey and jenny gilruth, which very quickly lined up behind john swinney, along with the rest of humza yousaf's cabinet, quite frankly. and if any other names were to come out to stand against john swinney, well , were to come out to stand against john swinney, well, i think the safe to say that they would be coming out of left field now, kate forbes, she identified that actually , well, identified that actually, well, on paper they have very different views. john swinney is
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very much, you know, dare i say it, the continuity candidate and kate forbes this time hasn't used her. her big phrase from last year continuity won't cut it and it looks like she's going to give it a chance. she's actually identified some things that she has in common with john swinney, and she hopes that they can work on them together. things like the net zero target, things like the economy and very much work together to bring scotland ever closer to, of course, their unified goal of independence . but for now, the independence. but for now, the first big test on the horizon is , of course, that general election. but yet on monday next week, we will find out whether there has been any other nominations. but it looks like today could have been humza yousaf's final qus and next week, around this time, we could be recognising john swinney as scotland's next first minister. >> and there we have it. anybody hoping for an end to the murk woke politics north of the border might be slightly
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disappointed. john swinney basically is a continuity candidate. here's a guy who voted for gender recognition self—id for 16 year olds, of course. kate forbes, however, actually believes in christianity. she's a bible reading christian who's much more critical of the trans ideology , much more critical of ideology, much more critical of things like same sex marriage . things like same sex marriage. she didn't didn't succeed to become leader last time. and now she's stood aside. will it mean yet more of the same north of the border? of course. we'll keep all eyes on that story throughout the developing days. now, moving on the diplomatic row between the uk and ireland over asylum seekers is rumbling on, and a plan by ireland to send police officers to the border to stop migrants entering the country sparked a furious row . we've seen rishi sunak and row. we've seen rishi sunak and the irish prime minister will tensions escalated further as rishi sunak asserted that the uk has no obligation whatsoever to accept the return of illegal
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migrants from ireland and despite vehemently advocating for an open border. if you recall, during brexit negotiations to preserve the peace process, well , ireland's peace process, well, ireland's decision to deploy police officers to the borders raises serious amounts of eyebrows. so despite all the pontificating dunng despite all the pontificating during the brexit negotiations, ihave during the brexit negotiations, i have to ask has ireland miraculously managed to discover its hard border? well, to explain this seeming contradictory stance from the irish government, i'm pleased to be joined now down the line by the president of the irish freedom party, herman kelly. herman, welcome to the show. always thank you. my pleasure. so, herman, let's start with this notion of we heard a hundred police officers may be deployed by the republic to the border. they seem to have suddenly developed a taste for protecting their border . herm. protecting their border. herm. and where did that come from? >> the irish government doesn't give a damn about protecting the irish people, irish sovereignty or the irish territory, the irish government just last week.
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and you covered this in the news that they sent the police force, the gardai, to pretty much beat up local people who were very concerned about the security and safety of their local area and really we saw scenes which were on virtually unheard of in ireland in the last number of decades post the troubles of like, it was like a cross between robocop . now, you see, between robocop. now, you see, i'm sorry to say that, like, they really beat into, like local people who who all they wanted to do was voice concerns and say that they didn't want large numbers of unvetted males planted in their area because they had grave concerns about they had grave concerns about the security of their their community and like, the whole thing. yeah. go ahead, martin. no. you go. yeah. well, a hard border. yeah. they they demanded no, we want an open border. the problem is with the irish state is they don't want to seem seemingly they have no
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functioning deportation system in ireland at the minute , i in ireland at the minute, i think last week it came out, helen mcentee, that 7300 people, were supposed to be deported less than 100, since 2023 have been deported. so it's very clear there's no functioning deportation centre. and anybody who reaches the island of ireland can come in and they get loads of free stuff. i actually visited a hotel there , on, visited a hotel there, on, yesterday and it was unbelievable all the facilities that these people had. >> yeah. in fact , herman, let's >> yeah. in fact, herman, let's turn now to that footage that you sent in to the farage show yesterday . the tented city was yesterday. the tented city was cleared from central dublin a few weeks ago. it was cleared and the asylum seekers in that city tented city simply walked back into dublin. this time, herman kelly, they were taken to a very different location.
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explain to viewers what you're what we're seeing on screen now. where did they find themselves? it looks rather plush . it looks rather plush. >> they find themselves in citywest hotel and the west of the city. i believe it's 1200 beds. it's one of the biggest. i think it is actually the biggest hotel in dublin, very salubrious. i walked around it, they had a golf course which is only for residents, they have large pools. the rooms are fantastic , the people there are fantastic, the people there are entering into the conference centre, there's a leisure centre. there's a swimming pool. the there's golf courses for residents only. so irish people are paying for this, and yet they're not allowed to use the facilities. therefore, all the people who come in from around the world, somalia, afghanistan , the world, somalia, afghanistan, kurdistan, wherever and they are treated like kings. they get free welfare, free medical care,
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free welfare, free medical care, free accommodation. but at the same time, irish people are means tested for all these. for all this free, free welfare stuff. and actually, i was walking around the car park. there's a lot of ukrainian refugees there as well, and there were huge, very large ukrainian suvs in the car park. and let me tell you about a scheme that they have in ireland at the minute. it's called aarp accommodation, accommodation recognition payment, where ukrainians get ,800 tax to free give to an irish landlord, whereas an irish person would have to pay ,800 to the same landlord that would be taxed. so if you're an irish landlord, letting out an apartment, of course you're going to take that. you're of course you're going to take the ukrainian and it's discriminatory , we believe, it's discriminatory, we believe, against irish people. there's a new scheme , in the newspapers new scheme, in the newspapers today that seemingly the irish government is now going to spend a lot more taxpayers money to buy up dilapidated houses to
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give to asylum seekers. so that means the irish state will be using taxpayers money to compete in the housing market against irish taxpayers. >> and herman herman khalife, that's exactly what we're seeing here on the mainland. then, of course, nobody should deserve to live in a tent. we have a duty of care to protect and welcome the most vulnerable from around the most vulnerable from around the world. of course, nobody wants to see people suffer, but we see time and time again , do we see time and time again, do we see time and time again, do we not, herman cain, that people seem to be living the life of riley, especially in a luxurious hotel, which, as you said , very hotel, which, as you said, very few people in dublin could afford to even stay? and we have to leave it there. we've simply ran out of time. herman kelly, president of the irish freedom party, thank you for joining president of the irish freedom party, thank you forjoining us party, thank you for joining us on farage. always a pleasure. now, next, donald trump is back at the manhattan criminal court as his new york hush money trial continues following recess yesterday, where the campaign trail and the battleground states of wisconsin and michigan, in a moment, we'll speak live to a former chief of
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staff to the united states defence secretary under president donald trump, kash patel. you're watching farage on
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gb news. welcome back to farage with me. martin daubney. now, donald trump is back in court today for the resumption of his new york hush money trial. and the judge in the case is considering four more alleged violations of mr trump's gag order today. more alleged violations of mr trump's gag order today . after trump's gag order today. after fining him $9,000 for nine breaches on tuesday. the judge has also warned the former president he could face jail if he persists in bad mouthing key participants. well, to explain everything that's been happening and what to expect next, i'm delighted to be joined by kash patel, author of the book government gangsters . he's also government gangsters. he's also a previous federal public defender and a former chief of staff to the acting united states secretary of defence under president donald trump. wow. what an impressive cv you
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have, kash. so today donald trump came out ahead of the trial and he said , what trial and he said, what a ridiculous show trial this is. he called it a beau biden trial. what happened next? >> well, i think one of the most shocking revelations. it's great to be with you. is that a central witness for the prosecution? our equivalent of the crown prosecution services was the lawyer to one of the women that was alleged to have received a hush money payment and on the witness stand during the examination , he actually the examination, he actually stated that the money that transferred from him to his client was not a hush money payment. this is much akin to going into a bank robbery case and having the witness identify the person sitting next to you as the actual culprit, and not the one charged with the crime. so they're scrambling a little bit there, because this has been built as a hush money trial for silencing other people and their star witness. just said, that's not what happened. >> and of course , kash, donald >> and of course, kash, donald trump also allied to the fact that he went to a packed rally in michigan, wisconsin , he was
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in michigan, wisconsin, he was actually allowed to go and campaign . and he very clearly campaign. and he very clearly said that this show trial, it the timing of it is specifically designed to keep him from being able to campaign. the timing is everything, he said . everything, he said. >> yeah. so the timing of this courtroom is going to take 4 to 6 weeks, but every wednesday they have off per the judge's schedule. so donald trump is masterminding and orienting his campaign calendar to maximise how he can get out to the country. michigan and wisconsin are key battleground states. and when he's out there, he's talking about the things that are happening in the courtroom. you mentioned the contempt proceedings that caused a $9,000 charge for donald trump. you know, there is a rule in new york which says, if you are a judge in the state of new york and any one of your relatives makes money in directly from a prosecution or case being presented before you , you must presented before you, you must recuse. this judge's daughter has made tens of millions of dollars from the information pounng dollars from the information pouring out of his courtroom, and he refuses to recuse and
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then he attacks donald trump's constitutional right to free speech. so what i think you see president trump fighting for is not just his freedom of speech rights , but he's taking that on rights, but he's taking that on the campaign trail and say, they're doing this. you're next. and of course, it's a rigged system of justice. and i happen to agree with the president. >> and kash patel briefly , if we >> and kash patel briefly, if we could. he also referred to the college protests going on across america. he called these people radical left morons who want the country to fail. and we will not allow this. >> we are not going to allow the country to fail. these people are picking the side of a pro terrorist organisation rather than picking the side of america and being with our allies in israel and we cannot have that. currently, americans and israelis and others are being held hostage by this organisation, and i don't. and donald trump doesn't support any movement for war that is pro that kash patel, an absolute delight to speak to you . delight to speak to you. >> thank you forjoining us on >> thank you for joining us on the farage show. excellent to speak to you . thank you, thank speak to you. thank you, thank you. now moving on. the rwanda
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plan has faced opposition every single step of the way from the courts, the opposition government ministers, the house of lords and of course from nigel farage himself. but despite its successful passage through parliament, rishi sunak now faces his next battle. the civil service now the union for senior civil servants, is launching a legal challenge over the rwanda plan through fears staff could be in breach of international law. a new attempt international law. a new attempt in grounding the rwanda flights. so is it now time that we take radical measures and ensure civil servants, or politically augned civil servants, or politically aligned with the government of the day, or is this a fair response from the union ? well, response from the union? well, joining me now to discuss this is becky smith, who's the deputy editor at civil service world. thanks for joining editor at civil service world. thanks forjoining us on the thanks for joining us on the show, becky. so this hinges around the fact that the union is claiming that if civil servants apply the rwanda plan, they may be in breach of international law. >> so the reason the fda is
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challenging, the legislation is trying to bring this judicial review is it's mostly a technical thing. so the idea is that the european court of human rights, if that if a european judge, grants an injunction against a deportation, flight ministers now under uk law, have the ability to , you know, ignore the ability to, you know, ignore that, override that, and guidance that's just been put out, instructs civil servants to follow ministers instructions, which sounds fair enough, but the civil service code requires civil servants to follow the law, which also includes international law. so the fda's case is that this creates kind of a conflict in the responsibilities that civil servants have. so they're seeking clarity. they're not trying to stop the policy. they're trying . they asked they're trying. they asked several weeks before the act was passed for wording in the legislation to address this. that wasn't put in. and so this is what they're their issue is . is what they're their issue is. >> okay, becky, we just spoke to a former adviser to donald trump
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in america. donald trump proposed, policies to effectively hire and fire the federal staff in america, their equivalent of the civil service. he said that time after time after time, they stood in the way of his more conservative policies . is there a case to be policies. is there a case to be made that civil servants in the uk should back the government? they should be politically augned they should be politically aligned with the policies of the day because too often, becky, we hear allegations , joins the hear allegations, joins the civil service. the home office seems to be rowing a different direction to the government in power . power. >> there has certainly been allegations in especially in the last sort of 5 or 6 years, we've seen a really big change in the way that ministers and anonymous government figures have talked about the civil service in the press. there's been a lot of briefing against the civil service, most of it has been proven unfounded in this particular case. to be honest, it wouldn't solve your problem because it would still have this conflict between the civil service code and the legislation. so it doesn't matter how civil servants feel
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and how they politically align, they're still going to be this conflict which fda is trying to resolve. >> but priti patel, suella braverman robert jenrick , nigel braverman robert jenrick, nigel farage, practically every conservative mp i talk to , they conservative mp i talk to, they all do believe that no matter how they try and get legislation through particularly sensitive areas around immigration, there seems to be constant pushback from the home office, from the blob, as they may call them. do you think that's fair, or is that harsh criticism ? that harsh criticism? >> i don't think it's correct, necessarily. i think a lot of the pushback has come from groups outside government where it's come from civil service unions and civil servants. it's been about this , this worry that been about this, this worry that they will be breaching international law or international law or international human rights, so i don't think political alignment comes into it. i think the civil service is often a very convenient target for ministers who can't get their legislation, their legislation, through their policies through. and it's possibly quite a lazy way to find someone to blame for policies that you can't pass .
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policies that you can't pass. >> now. becky smith, deputy editor at the civil service world i think that's a fair point, though. maybe, politicians are just blaming you guys when they just can't get their job guys when they just can't get theirjob done. it's great to hear both sides of the story. becky smith , thanks for joining becky smith, thanks for joining us on the show. now, in a moment, we'll discuss the growing number of pro—palestine camps popping up at university bars across britain, trying to replicate the disorder on campuses in the united states. will they succeed? you're watching farage on
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gb news. welcome back to farage with me. martin daubney. now, history teaches that what starts in america so often arrives in the uk sooner rather than later. for good or for bad. well, now, in a trend mirrored from protests across the usa, pro—palestinian students have occupied several university campuses in the uk and the students claim they were
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demonstrating against the conflict in gaza. tents have been erected outside buildings at universities in leeds, newcastle and bristol and also sheffield, where we were earlier, with calls for donations of essential supplies. marchers and one off protests have also taken place on other campuses, including a week long encampment which has been established at warwick university and the uk. demonstrations followed larger scale protests at campuses across the usa, notably at columbia university in new york, where over 1000 protesters have now been arrested following clashes with the police . well, clashes with the police. well, josh caplan, the head of digital at the jewish chronicle , joins at the jewish chronicle, joins me now in the studio. a delight to have you. thank you. we saw chaos in america. campuses taken oven chaos in america. campuses taken over, occupied, vandalised. the civil guard sent in flash grenades, even used arrests made now , now it's come over this now, now it's come over this side of the pond. how does that make you feel? and what should we do about it? >> yeah, well, it's kind of
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embarrassing, really , isn't it? embarrassing, really, isn't it? i mean, we used to make things in this country. now we don't even make our own ideas. we simply import them from america, you know, it's exactly the same thing that happened during the blm riots in 2020 when we kind of imported this american politics. and you had this insane thing where people who had previously been pro, anti—austerity , they're now anti —austerity, they're now calling anti—austerity, they're now calling to defund the police. like there's not a huge amount of critical thinking involved here, is there? >> now, of course, we must support people's free right to protest, no matter if we agree or disagree. otherwise they'd stop us being able to protest about the attempted cancellation of brexit and so on and so forth. however some of the tactics have been unsavoury, to say the least, and we've seen actually an escalation towards some some pure hatred in america i >> -- >> yeah, i exam ham >> yeah, i think in america what's happened is, is quite honestly disgusting. i think the way that you've allowed this small minority to, you know, effectively dictate what peaceful students can do, i think is really awful. and i think is really awful. and i think the second that happens here and the second that ordinary students are stopped from walking back campus, going about their daily lives, i think that's the point where we should just kick it all out and all all students, students telling you
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jewish students that they feel afraid. >> now in british university campuses, i think at the moment it's kind of watching and waiting, right. >> there's this kind of critical moment where is it going to blow up in the way it's blowing up in america, or is it going to just kind of fizzle away? and, you know, i think in bristol there's about 4/10. so hopefully it won't bloom into anything bigger. but if it does then i think they would feel completely justified in being scared. >> now we heard the mayor of new york saying that it turned nasty because outside influencers came in. we've seen the same in britain. we've seen some spicy organisations getting involved and revving things up . do you and revving things up. do you fear that that could happen here? >> i think when protests get big enough, there's always a chance for people to kind of jump in and make it their cause and i think the big problem with the palestinian issue generally is that people want to jump on it, because it's a popular cause that they think they can use to shoehorn in all the other sort of tinpot things they believe in. >> should we send in the cops the same as they did in america, i think it might be a bit too early. i think at the moment i think let them embarrass themselves and then hopefully it will fizzle out. okay. >> well, thanks for joining the studio. josh caplan, the head of
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digital at the jewish chronicle. well, i'm delighted to say i'm now joined in the studio by jacob rees—mogg. jacob, of course, is doing the show directly after this. jacob what's on your menu, sir? >> well, what we're going to start with is johnny mercer saying that he would go to prison rather than reveal confidential information given to him by whistleblowers in relation to things that went on in afghanistan. and this seems to me to be really important, because people ought to have confidence that they can speak to journalists, their lawyer and their member of parliament about issues that are sensitive and not be revealed as the source of that information . and i'm that information. and i'm worried that the powers that the judge has and he has been given these powers by parliament to enforce johnny to give the information he's going too far, because if people can't have a confidential conversation, how can they they get themselves represented? how can they get information across in a system that they may feel is failed, particularly obviously, if they're whistleblowers. so we're going to start with that. yeah. what's next. well we're also going to be talking about the oecd's forecasts for the uk
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economy, which are gloomy. oh of course they're gloomy. of course they're gloomy. and the lady who's done them is just about to go off to be deputy governor of the bank of england. and the bank of england has just spent a lot of time trying to work out why all its forecasts are wrong. and it seems to me, if they've been wrong for ages, getting advice from the oecd isn't particularly sensible . and then particularly sensible. and then we're going to be talking to joshua sutcliffe, who's coming into the studio , who's the into the studio, who's the teacher who misgendered a pupil. and this is really interesting because, everyone's view seems to have changed since the cast report came out. there's been a sudden change in screeching u—turns , screeching u—turn, even u—turns, screeching u—turn, even senior politicians who couldn't tell you know, what a woman is and what a man is. so fascinating. things have been been happening. and so i'm going to be talking to him and finding out what he's had to go through and where his legal challenges at the moment. and you're also we speak to ministerjosh caplan a moment ago. >> you're also, i believe, addressing these protests of the pro—palestinian mob on british
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university campuses. you listened in to our conversation. what's your take? >> well, i agree with this point. why can't we think up our own protests that this is not a matter that is indigenous to the uk? it's a us protest that we've decided to adopt. i spoke to, somebody for gbn america earlier on today who was saying the anti semitism is really shocking and has tipped over into violence . has tipped over into violence. so jewish people have been injured, physically injured by some of the protesters and the outside influence who are being paid apparently to get involved. and it's really important that doesn't happen here because free speech is so important . we never speech is so important. we never want the police to be going in to break up protests . that to break up protests. that should only happen when people have broken the law, not just because they have a view that we don't like. >> and on that matter, as i've got you, can i ask you for your reaction to those protests we saw earlier in peckham when the vehicle, the coach that was making an attempt to get asylum seekers to the bibby stockholm apparently had its tires slashed. it was vandalised. what's your take on that?
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>> vandalism? slashing tires is criminal damage. >> vandalism? slashing tires is criminal damage . people who do criminal damage. people who do that should be arrested. they should be charged. they should go through the courts. standing in front of a coach is potentially a legal protest until you're moved on by a policeman. slashing its tires is against the law, and the full weight of the law should come down upon you. >> can i quickly ask you? one of the topics we covered on farage tonight is does the civil service run britain? of course, this is the civil servants saying they may be violating international law. suddenly their union is saying that time and time again we've heard from suella braverman, from priti patel is, in your opinion, the home office, the civil service, rowing in a different direction to the government on immigration. well, i think the first division association for civil servants doesn't represent civil servants at all. >> well, it doesn't like them being in the office. it doesn't like them doing any work. and when they are in doing work, it doesn't want them to do what the government expects of them. it's a hard left union that obstructs the activity of the government and gives civil servants a bad name. so i think the fda is really letting down its members. i actually worked with some superb civil servants who worked
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way over off his eyes, were committed to delivering the policy of the government , policy of the government, whether they agreed with it or not. and i think the fda is just a bad lot. superb >> well, there he is. and that up next is state of the nation with jacob rees—mogg. thanks for joining me. i thoroughly enjoyed it. first though, it's time for your weather. and here's alex bercow. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good evening. it's time for your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. there's going to be quite a bit of rain around tomorrow, but before then, the risk of some heavy thundery downpours overnight in association with a front that's still lingering across central parts at the moment. and we do still have some blustery conditions because of an area of low pressure over the near continent. but i think it's the thundery downpours across central parts of england into wales, where we're most likely to see any issues. some of the showery rain will continue as we go overnight, and we'll likely
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see a few bursts pushing in from the north sea further north as well, but many areas towards the north—west of the uk staying dry. some clear skies but for most a relatively mild start to the day tomorrow as we go through tomorrow itself, then more rain to come across central parts of england, wales and some showers across northern england and into southern scotland. to some of these could be heavy and thundery, lots of cloud and showery rain continuing across many areas but towards the far north and the far south of the uk, we should have some decent dry and sunny weather in the sunshine. it will feel quite warm, albeit temperatures not quite as high as they were today. as we look towards the weekend . and while it is looking weekend. and while it is looking pretty messy on saturday, there's going to be quite a bit of cloud and outbreaks of showery rain across the northern half of the uk before some showery stuff is likely to push its way up from the south as we go through the day. and that could be heavy, possibly even thundery. more mixed weather to come as we go through sunday into monday there will be some dnen into monday there will be some drier, brighter weather at times , but also plenty of showers as well. i'll see you again soon. >> looks like things are heating
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gb news. >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg, on state of the nafion jacob rees—mogg, on state of the nation tonight. johnny mercer has said he would sooner go to prison than give up the names of the sas whistleblowers to the afghan inquiry. but surely people should be able to speak to mps confidentially as they to can a lawyer or a journalist. the oecd has made a gloomy forecast of britain's economic future. and no, it's not because of brexit. it's because of the bank of england's insistence on high interest rates and the overtaxing of british people. as the college campus anti—israel protests reached fever pitch, the cacophony has spilled over into the uk, with protest camps being set up across britain in universities. but will we see the same degree of disorder? plus a teacher who has been

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