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in.7 is in? is it time to arm starmer. in? is it time to arm all police? >> also, where are these people ? >> also, where are these people? >> also, where are these people? >> so i in most cases i don't, i don't, i don't know where those people are. we have yeah. >> thousands of asylum seekers are on the run. we've lost them. and trans rights. yeah >> trans rights are human rights. >> common sense. gender is now a biological fact . a revolutionary biological fact. a revolutionary communist versus a tory mp on protest against politicians where the state can continues to ignore this problem , which is ignore this problem, which is just escalating and escalating . just escalating and escalating. >> it's unbelievable . >> it's unbelievable. >> it's unbelievable. >> yeah. are the irish angry with us over the old illegal migrant stuff on my panel tonight? as you can see, it is social commentator esther krakow. we've got conservative
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mp more than that is the deputy chair stoke on trent north jonathan gullies and broadcaster and author amy nicole turner. and can you tell me what the bbc thinks is wrong with this? >> for most , thinks is wrong with this? >> for most, it's so much more rewarding than a boring old desk job. look at this office window. >> fantastic garretty britain. >> fantastic garretty britain. >> here we go. keir starmer's worst nightmare . next. >> good evening. i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom, and we start with some breaking news. the first migrant has reportedly been sent to rwanda. according to the sun, there , claiming that to the sun, there, claiming that the unnamed man was flown out of the unnamed man was flown out of the united kingdom yesterday evening and is now in kigali after his asylum bid was
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rejected last year and he voluntarily agreed to move to the central african nation in exchange for £3,000. this scheme is said to be separate to a forced deportation programme due to start in july. if correct, it would be the first time that the government has ever relocated a failed asylum seeker to a third country. now gb news has contacted the home office for confirmation, but so far we have received no reply to other news and video has emerged showing the moment police arrested a man wielding a sword in north—east london. officers cornered him at a property, bringing the suspect to the ground with three separate taser discharges. he's been arrested on suspicion of murder following the death of a 14 year old boy. the 36 year old suspect is now in hospital. police said earlier that they'd been unable to interview him due to his condition. four other people were injured, including two police officers . earlier, two police officers. earlier, buckingham palace said the king's thoughts and prayers are with all those affected.
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assistant commissioner for the met, louisa rolfe, says the suspect was not known to them. >> the 36 year old man arrested at the scene is currently in hospital having suffered injuries when his van collided with a building. he has been arrested on suspicion of murder at this time. given his injuries, we have been unable to interview him. we know there is speculation about his background, including police contact with him and despite urgent and extensive checks today, we have found no trace of a prior incident involving him so far. >> a jealous ex—partner who killed a mother in front of her two children has been handed a life sentence. 46 year old robert moyo attacked 35 year old perseverance ncube in her bedroom before chasing her into the street. once there, he stabbed her through the heart. he's been told that he must serve a minimum of 27 years. well, king charles has revealed his shock at being diagnosed
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with cancer as he returned to official public duties for the first time since his diagnosis. he visited a cancer treatment centre alongside the queen to meet medical specialists and patients. when asked about the state of his health, he replied that he was well. king has been announced as the new patron of cancer research uk, taking over from his mother, the late queen elizabeth. and in the us, donald trump has been threatened with jail for violating a gag order in his hush money trial. jail for violating a gag order in his hush money trial . judge in his hush money trial. judge juan meshan fined the former president $9,000 and warned him that any further infractions could lead to incarceration. meshan had imposed the gag order to prevent mr trump from criticising witnesses and others . he was fined $1,000 for each of nine online statements. trump has argued that the gag order violates his right to freedom of speech. violates his right to freedom of speech . for the latest stories, speech. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gbnews.com/alerts. back now to .
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patrick. >> keir starmer needs to watch out because george galloway is about people might not like mr galloway, but anyone who underestimates what a threat this man is to the labour party is an idiot. >> good morning. what a story. >> good morning. what a story. >> what a day. >> what a day. >> you're absolutely right. every day is a big day. but. but one of the things now about you . one of the things now about you. this is the first time in living memory that an avowedly socialist party to the left of labour will contest . you plan to labour will contest. you plan to contest every single seat at a general election. how are you going to do that , george? going to do that, george? >> well, we'll find out, won't we? because he's got something that sir keir starmer doesn't have a personality. >> he's so wooden . >> he's so wooden. >> he's so wooden. >> the birds are nesting in him. i'm sure i've seen that people in the establishment media are going to find out that they just can't handle this guy. >> susanna reid ended up boosting his popularity by a few
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percent in the polls after this. i mean, the look on her face won't answer questions about a few weeks ago, and you won't answer questions about a few . answer questions about a few. >> i'm here to talk. i'm here. i'm here to talk about britain. you. what is the question you would like to ask yourself ? would like to ask yourself? >> i'd like to ask myself . and >> i'd like to ask myself. and wish you had asked me about monty panesar, the famous left arm spinner bowler. right. engush arm spinner bowler. right. english cricket ace who's standing for parliament for us in southall. that's interesting and current that well, that follows sky news attempt after his election victory in rochdale. >> the prime minister is saying that you are god. we're talking about little rishi sunak in the fag end of his prime ministership . don't talk to me ministership. don't talk to me as if he's come down from the mount with tablets of stone. the things that he says are somehow meant to all me. they may. or you they don't. all me.
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>> a lot of people have just watched what the prime minister said. >> this is your opportunity to respond to what he said. well, he says that there are forces here at home trying to tear us apart. he is implying you are a divisive figure. you have run an election campaign that has that has tried to appeal, particularly not entirely, to one section of the community. >> the election there are several labour big hitters who are massively vulnerable, like angela rayner. >> let me take aroma and angela raynen >> let me take aroma and angela rayner, her majority is 4000. aroma will take a minimum of 10,000 and a maximum of 20,000 votes. that puts that puts angela rayner out of parliament. >> and look, people might think this is mental, but here's why he's so dangerous for labour. so for mr galloway, it's all about this, isn't it? >> keir starmer ? >> keir starmer? >> keir starmer? >> this is for gaza , right?
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>> this is for gaza, right? >> this is for gaza, right? >> it's for gaza. and look at the numbers okay. so the muslim vote .co.uk has compiled a list of loads of labour seats. their muslim population and whether their mps voted for or against a ceasefire or if they abstained. there are loads of seats that are overtly pro—palestine. candidate could win wes streeting majority is just over 5000. that could go. who do you think voters in places with large muslim communities in birmingham, or parts of greater manchester are going to vote for? are they're going to for vote a labour candidate who abstained on a ceasefire and supported keir starmer , or supported keir starmer, or someone who's been at every single pro—palestine march? this year? there's news today that serving labour mp tahir ali. >> this guy, therefore, is it now not the time for the prime minister to admit that he has the blood of thousands of innocent people on his hands ? innocent people on his hands? >> code switch to george galloway's party. the left of
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the labour party don't actually like keir starmer. >> no labour party, in my view, in history has ever gone into election offering essentially nothing for those who are struggling. >> the other thing in mr galloway's favour, as the leader of reform uk, richard tice pointed out, is that the usual groups like hope not hate for example, aren't going to delve into his candidates are they? what their history is? they have a blind spot when it comes to that side of politics, so i suspect they'll probably get a free pass there. even if galloway's workers party of britain don't win seats, they could dent the labour vote significantly. okay, now you don't have to like george galloway. i know a lot of people don't . now, if you still don't don't. now, if you still don't think, though, that george galloway is a threat to keir starmer, what you have to ask yourselves is this who would win? in a debate between mr galloway and sir keir? let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. i am joined by columnist and broadcaster esther
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krakue. i've also got jonathan gullace as well. the deputy chair of the tory party. and i've got author and broadcaster amy nicholson. look, jonathan, i'll start with you as the political head on the panel here. i think keir starmer is bangin here. i think keir starmer is bang in trouble with mr galloway. oh, absolutely. i think what joy. even though there's many things i firmly disagree with, is old labour essentially a social conservatism and in his eyes are economic socialism, which is something obviously i totally disagree with. but when he's busy saying, for example, that we must stop the boats and we need to and sovereign nations should be able to control their borders. i think he himself was a brexiteer and supporter as well. so there's an awful lot that's going to appeal, particularly in midlands, east midlands and the north west, nonh midlands and the north west, north east to those traditional lifelong labour voters who feel that this labour party under sir keir starmer, who ultimately was pro—remain, wanted a second referendum and would campaign for remain, has said that a woman, is a trans woman, is a woman, is a trans woman, is a woman and then is seemingly rowed back over the last couple of years, which is a dramatic transformation. and many other kind of flip flops that he's
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obsessed with is just simply not the man that inspires our country. let's not forget that jeremy corbyn did actually get more votes, just sadly , in my more votes, just sadly, in my opinion. but more votes than tony blair did in some of his own electoral victory. so i think that keir starmer is in big trouble and should take the george galloway threat very seriously. do you think there's a potential issue here for keir starmer? >> i think so, but unfortunately the nature of our political system means that it probably won't materialise into actual seats, the main difference you can see is that george galloway actually stands for something, and many people would say, look, i don't agree with him on everything. i don't agree with him on gaza. i mean, the whole gaza vote has just become sort of theatrical politics. it's meaningless. you have mps storming out of, of the commons oven storming out of, of the commons over, over gaza, but you never see them storming out over the rochdale grooming gangs or the fact that the nhs waiting lists are through the roof or things that actually affect people down the road, but he does stand for something and it resonates with not just old labour voters. i mean, he's he's actually he's patriotic. he actually loves britain. i would feel more comfortable. and i'm not endorsing george galloway here, but i would actually feel more
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comfortable voting for someone that i actually know fundamentally likes this country , wants to make it better, is unafraid to say certain realities like men are not women , and these are the kinds of things that could hurt keir starmer in the future. >> amy, your views on this. i mean, i think keir starmer has got a bit of a blind spot here because as esther was saying that. right. i don't think in our system he's going to win a load of seats, but i think he could he could stop labour winning a load of seats. >> well, when you first hear him and you maybe if you're not that familiar with him, you go, oh, that's something a bit different. >> i like the sound of that. >> i like the sound of that. >> that's exciting. maybe the same way a conservative voter might respond to reform, say, but then when you scratch beneath the surface of the bravado, you quickly get to things like george galloway saying climate change is a hoax and not believing in nato membership, it very quickly falls apart. and i think the climate, for example, has always been quite high on the priorities list. it's always been about the top 3 to 5 priorities of voters. and i think, well, he's not he's abandoning net zero is not going to he's not treating it like it's a hoax. >> he is saying there should be a referendum on on net zero. and
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unfortunately, this is the thing when someone doesn't follow the prescribed line on climate change and net zero, they always think, oh, he's a climate change denier. he's saying we should be able to vote. hold on. he should be able to vote on net zero. and many people think that because we don't actually have the infrastructure to make this happen, it's economically suicidal. >> i'm sorry, when people like richard tice, for example, tap into that and they say things about net zero, they instantly lose a big swayed by giving the british public a vote. >> it's not how is that? how is that not popular? >> giving people a say when you what are you scared of the immediacy of when people talk about scrapping net zero, they lose. they're not talking about scrapping net zero. >> they're saying give the british public a choice. why is that a problem? if people are behind it, like you say, everyone will vote for it, right? just like brexit. well, i think it's very pro—palestine, amy, you must be in favour of that. >> is he is he. well? yes. well, vocally i. okay. well he didn't turn up to the vote on gaza once he got the vote because his pointless theatre, i mean, he spent his life, you know, he has he has very persistent. >> he has a strong track record and literally every single mp
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failing theatre in the commons. then, then then galloway kicks out of labour over his views on iraq. >> and there's a lot of the british public that would empathise with his views on iraq. now, looking back in history, i mean, at the end of the day, you know, he was one of the day, you know, he was one of the first ones to say this was a needless war. the reason george galloway got kicked out was in robin cook didn't even though robin cook didn't even though robin cook left george galloway for the tories. jonathan isn't he? well look, i think george galloway can certainly make an impact in labour seats, but i think at the end of the day the conservatives will will not take anything for granted whatsoever because we obviously will have challenges, as we'll find out in the local election results come about, whether or not reform do actually live up to the hype that they are bringing . that they are bringing. >> it might force the tories to stand for something as well. that might be quite, quite a novel novel. >> the reason i say is he wasn't, because i doubt his integrity and his passion around that area of the world. it's because he has been elected plenty of times, but he's never been re—elected , ever. been re—elected, ever. >> and he hasn't actually shown the people of rochdale any of the people of rochdale any of the things that he promised. that's my point. >> all i would say is, at the end of the day, his party is
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running on a, you know, i talk to people in stoke on trent, lifelong labour voters who have recently only just come to the conservatives in 2019. they want social conservatives, they want tough law and order. they don't like the fact that keir starmer signed a letter with 150 other colleagues to stop a deportation flight of foreign national offenders. that meant that some offenders. that meant that some of those men went on to commit murder on the streets of this country, 20,000 a year. >> prison sentence between all of those offenders, by the way, rapists, murderers. >> so, you know, when you see that those of whom were born here, brought up here had families, they have no business being in the uk. >> right? >> right? >> even if you were here from the age of two, that's that's besides the point. >> that's an interesting point. but this is an interesting point. how tough do we honestly think george galloway would, would be on deporting illegal people? i mean, he says about controlling borders and everything, but then, you know, you do kind of then look at some of the demographics he's trying to tap into. and i wonder what does he actually mean that about the i think the thing is, we can't actually know that because the nature of our system would never give someone like him chance. >> i mean, we're not like many european countries where you have these kind of mad coalition
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governments. they have belgium that would be without a government for a year. and when they do come together, they're just an amalgamation of, you know , every kind of political know, every kind of political view on the planet. and you can see the merits behind that. but i do think what the takeaway of this should be, labour should actually start taking him seriously and start actually standing for something. both major parties. i don't care if you have an issue with his net zero stance or whatever, the fact that he stands for something is a personality. >> he's got % you see the >> he's got% you see the establishment media, i mean, i could have taken like loads of clips there from people who just cannot handle this guy because he just doesn't care . he doesn't he just doesn't care. he doesn't care about what they have to say. he doesn't treat them with the kind of he's not scared of his own. patrick. he's someone i am desperately looking forward to trying to go back and forth in the chamber like i was someone who likes to get, you know, loud and vocal. he's someone i'm very much hoping to have a good exchange with across the house. we need to make that. well, you are aware you're on national television. if george galloway is watching, we can make that happen on this show by the way. >> but there you go, the x factor. come on. well, no, but i mean, one would hope a politician would have political views. >> do you know what? standby. >> do you know what? standby. >> i will say one thing. look,
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i've always said to people in stoke on trent, whether you like everything i say or how i say things, at least you actually know who i am. and what i stand for, and everyone i speak to goes. that is a very refreshing stance. and that's why people who have personalities, who are willing to put their neck on the line, do end up getting a lot of support. that's why your churchill's got big majority in the past, attlee, even blair, because he actually had a personality and connected with him. the thing is, i really want to emphasise that is, i do think that some of these groups that do like to look into maybe more the right wing of politics. okay are not going to be after this quy- are not going to be after this guy. they have a blind spot when it comes to george galloway's kind of politics. i do not think there's going to be a huge amount of scrutiny if he's stunning someone in every single seat, there are going to be some fruit, there are going to be some. there are going to be some really fruity characters there with a with an unbelievable track record. right. i can't tell you who they are right now, but you can almost guarantee that there'll be a few of them. i don't know if we'll find out about that before the election. it will, of course, take someone like me to look into that. but still ahead, the irish are up in arms over the uk's refusing to take back migrants despite an
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agreement supposedly being in place. well, the president of the irish freedom party, herman kelly, he's going to tell us how annoyed the irish really are. but up next. afterjacob but up next. after jacob rees—mogg was chased by pro—palestine university students in cardiff, jonathan gullies yes , goes head to head gullies yes, goes head to head with a revolutionary communist on whether the public figures like himself and others should be targeted by such protests. this is patrick christys tonight . we're only on
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gb news. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight we are only on gb news. and it is time now for our head to head. is it ever okay to target public figures as part of a protest? specifically, politicians ? so, conservative mp politicians? so, conservative mp jacob rees—mogg was surrounded by pro—palestine protesters just a few days ago. after an appearance at cardiff university. we can have a little look and earlier on this year, pro—palestinian protesters held a demonstration outside the home
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of mp tobias ellwood with signs accusing him of being complicit in genocide. now, one of my panel tonight feels very strongly about this in my community. you can challenge me, but if you dare come near my house, believe me, if the police aren't going to take action, i'll take action to my own hands because i'm not having my three year old daughter, my two year old son and my fiance put in danger because a bunch of thugs want to turn up outside my house and intimidate . well, the man and intimidate. well, the man himself, jonathan gerlis, is right here and i am also joined by ben. sorry, ben. gliniecki who is the national secretary of the revolutionary communist party look, i'll start with you on this one then. so you think it's all right? i take it to target people like jonathan dear? >> yeah. look, i'm not that worried about the feelings of mps, so i have a massive platform to put forward their views on, i think, very objectionable views, objectionable views, objectionable views, objectionable views on palestine and on what is what is taking place there, which is a genocide. i'm much more worried about the 100,000 people who
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have been murdered and maimed by the israeli regime, which is supported by the tory government. >> jonathan, i mean, your views on i've got no issue with people having a peaceful demonstration outside my office, which they can arrange with the police and indeed have had those in the past. i don't even mind outside certain events, you know, recently at newcastle—under—lyme golf course, there was people at the entrance, but they stood there. they didn't enter the grounds, they didn't seek to intimidate. but when we had, as we saw in stoke on trent in shelton, former hizb ut—tahrir members organising a protest, entering the premises, screaming and shouting in the faces of women and young girls who were present at our fundraiser event that's trying to undermine democracy. in fact, i held a westminster hall debate on this very issue today regarding the khan review that looked at this kind of intimidation of our democracy, go into people's homes . homes. >> look, it's i think, i think what you're really angry about is that for once, what's made the headlines is the real anger that exists in among among hundreds of thousands, even , i hundreds of thousands, even, i would say millions of people in this country. >> is it all right, go into people's homes, though. >> look, is it all right to drop
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bombs on? i mean, it's 50 something thousand homes have been destroyed, 1.5 to 1.9 million people displaced. is that all right? that is the position of the government that they support the israeli government . is that all right? government. is that all right? >> well, it's not all right to keep hostages as hamas have done. and for many in the in gaza who have been helping to keep those hostages hidden away from the israeli forces. so we can free them, it's not okay for the fact that they've been obviously using millions of dollars of aid to allow them, the leadership of hamas, to live in five star luxury in the middle of qatar, away from the people who actually need that aid on the ground. it's not okay for hamas to steal aid, food, water from the people of gaza when it's been getting in to that country, because ultimately they're using it for their so—called freedom fighters. these are terrorists. they need to be described as that. and ultimately, there's a lot of people on these hate marches that are sadly trying to intimidate what's going on and actually making this country safe, unsafe for jews to walk the streets, which is disgusting. okay i mean, you're shaking your head there. i mean, there is a nothing genuine school of thought that says some of the tactics are very intimidatory. >> no. look, when you hear
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language like that, hate marches and mobs and this kind of thing, what on earth? look, people can say whatever they like. people can like politicians can can basically back genocide all the way to the hilt and not criticise not not say anything about it. you i am going to the revolutionary communist party is going to organise protests against that and are organising. >> can i just ask on that revolutionary communist party, what, what kind of revolution are we talking about here? >> a revolution is a fundamental change, right? i don't think look at parliament right now, 650 mp5. i look at parliament right now, 650 mps. i mean, you're just talking about george galloway. that's one who has a different opinion. apart from that, there is a conspiracy of silence. no one is criticising what is going on.the one is criticising what is going on. the labour party, the tories , they're all on the same side here. >> your revolution look like mate. what is it? >> it looks like ordinary people taking control over their own lives. ordinary people running society for themselves . you see society for themselves. you see that in a very small way. in strikes, for example, i'm a big fan of strike action, big fan in the unions. that's working class people, that's ordinary people taking control of their workplace out of the hands of
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the rich and the bosses and all those kind of people who run it. that's the that's what i'm in favour of. i'm not in favour of 650 politicians, just in a in a room full of hot air talking rubbish while a genocide takes place. >> i think it goes to the point, though still, that patrick posed to you earlier, which is absolutely outside of parliament. you can demonstrate outside offices. i've got no issue with that whatsoever. but homes, mps, homes, that's their loved ones, that's their family members. at the end of the day, with the greatest respect, my fiance is a former labour party member. she's never voted conservative in her life. she might only be willing to vote conservative next election so i can keep my job. and that's even that's an if. okay. and i say that's an if. okay. and i say that jokingly before the mirror loses its mind over that joke. but at the end of the day, you know, i don't live in some echo chamber or some bubble at the end of the day, but my three year old, my three and a half year old, my three and a half year old, my two year old don't deserve to hear screaming and shouting outside their house when they're trying to go to sleep at night, when at the end of the day, those same people could still come peacefully outside my office, which is just on tunstall high street. it's got enough photos of me on it to make sure it's well in view,
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where people know where i am and they can make their voice be heard. in fact, i'd happily invite those people, as i did with former trade unions who regarding schools, i've sat down at the table with them. i've listened to them for two hours so they can hear their views. you said, come on, give it a rest. then when he was talking about his three year old, doesn't bother you? >> well, because your policies and your government's policies reach into the homes of every single person in this country. and it was that the it was the start of this year. there was that study came out that said, in the decades since 2011, a million people who live in poverty have died like excess deaths among a million. that is the policies of austerity of your government that have done that. your policies reach into, into all of our homes and you get upset and there's a genocide going on across the world which which your government. >> it's not a genocide, by the way. it's not a genocide. i mean, that's just factually inaccurate. >> it's all rubbish. >> it's all rubbish. >> rubbish is to claim it's a genocide when actually it's not. what israel is doing is trying to make sure that hamas doesn't have its tentacles in gaza. and stop the people of gaza having 100,000 dead and maimed is, well, i'm not i'm certainly not going to buy figures from the hamas health ministry who have got their own agenda with the
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greatest respect at the end of the day, there are figures out there that are disputed and then they i'll go with the figures that i trust more. >> how many dead would be? >> how many dead would be? >> all i would say, well, i don't want anyone to be dead. but what i don't want to see is, as we did see, 1200 innocent israelis and other nationalities brutally murdered by hamas terrorists going into the homes, killing, maiming children, raping women, as we know has happened. that's an abomination. those hamas terrorists need to be shot and found as much as possible. and then the people of gaza can be free of this barbaric regime. but it's not 100,000, is it? this is a figure from the hamas health ministry. so, marcus, it might be where does this end as far as you're concerned? because if your logic is, which i can't understand, by the way, but could that not conceivably then be used to justify anything? could that not conceivably be used to justify, like physical action against jonathan right now, or other people, etc, or breaking into their homes or, or completely blowing this place up, you know, could it not? >> no. no one's, no one's talking about breaking into rempe simon's. no one's talking about about blowing anything up. thatis about about blowing anything up. that is that's not the policy at all. it's not the approach. that's not my approach. no. what we want to do is organise
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protest. and actually this like it's a bit rich saying, oh yeah, come along like protest outside my your government has passed legislation that make that, that makes it very hard to take strike action. now that like the police crime centre, we see them out of strikes we've had in the nhs and the strikes we've seen in schools. have you seen the minimum service level act? >> that's a great piece of legislation to make sure our schools stay open. our nhs keeps running because it's an abomination. it's the right. the taxpayer has had no government . taxpayer has had no government. >> no, no. your government has had the right to strike. your government has attacked the right. that is an attack on the right. that is an attack on the right to strike. there's a limited attack on the right to strike is a limitation on the right to strike. >> it's doing what many other mainstream european countries have done, which is making sure that we have the ability for our pubuc that we have the ability for our public services to still run. >> you passed the police, crime, sentencing, courts, great piece of legislation, which also limits the ability of people to protest. and then you say, oh, i'm all in favour of protest because because actually because again, whenever there's been a protest organised, for example, in hanley square regarding in hanley town square regarding the issue, it's gone on peacefully. >> it's not caused any major issues. you called them hate marchers earlier. >> what's that about? >> what's that about? >> well, the hate marchers we
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see in london. absolutely they are hate marchers. we see people with anti—semitic banners. we see people chanting jihadist terms. the projection terms. we've seen the projection on the tower saying from the river to the sea, which means the eradication of the israeli state and the jewish people within it. so ultimately they are hate marchers. that's what the british public see every time these are happening. and they're bored senseless of seeing and seeing stoke on trent and staffordshire officers staffordshire police officers having come down to to london having to come down to to london man these streets when we've got crimes on our streets that need solving. our police are being dragged to deal with the liberal elites like tarquin, and that who want to make their point. would you protest outside his house? >>i house? >> i don't know where his house is. i've got no particular interest in doing that. i've got no i've got other things to be doing, to be honest. >> but mps in general, you'd happily because the other argument to it is that it silences them. so, you know, i've been at events before where i've been at events before where i've seen politicians like jacob rees—mogg or someone like that who i appreciate just still have a platform right here. but other mps or people with a voice if you're trying to silence them. oh look, come on, is that not an issue? >> i don't think anyone i mean, do you really think that mps in this country are having their freedom of speech limited ? they freedom of speech limited? they can say anything they like in parliament. they can come on the tv , on the media, human beings.
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tv, on the media, human beings. >> there are particularly women, by the way, who have been dreadful stuff sent through death threats, rape threats. >> my comrades, my like, members of the revolutionary communist party have been arrested on these palestine demos for nothing released afterwards without charge. haven't done anything just to get them off the street. just. just to get them off the demos. basically and comrades of mine internationally, the revolutionary communist international in the us, in canada, they're getting beaten up canada, they're getting beaten ”p by canada, they're getting beaten up by the police right now. they're freedom of speech is being attacked, not mps who can say whatever they like, whenever they want very quickly. >> final word on it. i mean, you've got bullet—proof clingfilm. you said, well, i mean, well done, patrick. i did obviously cock up when i said that. i was talking about bullet—proof film on the window , bullet—proof film on the window, obviously i did mock up and but well done for getting that gag in. i'm sure that will get some likes on twitter. i actually didn't mean me to be fair, but there we go. but clear that no one's trying to deny anyone's free speech. what we're simply saying is that if you want to make your voice heard, there are ways to go about that. still, democratically, as i say, i will take a protest outside my office any day of the week, as long as it's organised through the police, through the normal measures, in order to make sure it's carried out peacefully and my staff can continue their job
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day in and day out. both of you. thank you. good stuff. thanks, jonathan and ben, they're right. look, there's still loads more to come. coming up, health minister victoria atkins insisted today that it was vital biological sex is respected and that the nhs must not eradicate women and avoid using artificial language in the name of inclusivity. the author and director of the advocacy at sex matters, helen joyce, will be giving her meat. sorry, my take next. but up next, ireland's prime minister simon harris is not very happy that britain are not very happy that britain are not taking back asylum seekers. listen to this. >> there's already an agreement in place between ireland and britain. >> what we're doing is giving legal clarity in relation to that agreement, which will allow us designate the uk as a safe country again. >> yeah, but is he right, though ? is he right? president of the irish freedom party. herman kelly will join me
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight on gb news now. ireland and the uk have become embroiled in an asylum seeker row after the westminster government said they will not take back asylum seekers who cross into ireland unless the eu accepts that they can go back to france, which is not happening any time soon, is it? so ireland's prime minister, simon harris, says that's irrelevant and that there is a dealin irrelevant and that there is a deal in place for the uk and we have to wonder it. take a listen. >> but but just to be very clear , stephen, there's already an agreement in place since 2020 underpinned in law, i understand
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that, but just yesterday it's very important everybody understands that because there's already an agreement in place between ireland and britain. what we're doing is giving legal clarity in relation to that agreement, which will allow us designate the uk as a safe country again. >> now i feel very sorry for the people of the republic of ireland, the ordinary people out there . i want to make that there. i want to make that incredibly clear, i do, however , incredibly clear, i do, however, think that there's no way shape on earth that we should be taking back the illegal migrants who happen to have crossed that border. however, here is a man that i border. however, here is a man thati do border. however, here is a man that i do get on with. well, as the president of the irish freedom party is herman kelly. herman look, how annoyed are you with us here in the uk? are you? do you understand our position? which is that we don't really want them back. >> why would you ? >> why would you? >> why would you? >> and the irish people certainly don't want it. but do you know what? the irish people are really cheesed off at the minute. 79% of the people have had enough of all the immigration that our government have allowed into ireland by giving out free stuff, hand over fist, free housing, medical care, welfare to anybody and
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everybody who lands in dublin airport or who comes in through the land border, it's the people who are coming. of course they're going to come . ireland's they're going to come. ireland's got an incredibly generous welfare system and it has no functioning deportation system . functioning deportation system. so with the knowledge that you can go to ireland , get free can go to ireland, get free stuff and never, ever be deported , it almost be mad not deported, it almost be mad not to come. but we are very . it deported, it almost be mad not to come. but we are very. it is irish government policy which is to blame for what is going on, andifs to blame for what is going on, and it's long standing government policy. they are happy for ireland to be flooded with this mass immigration. do you know, five years ago i made a joke. i started to make a joke that sinn fein immigration policy and they're all for eu open borders and mass immigration. sinn fein immigration. sinn fein immigration policy, i used to say was brits out. everybody else in. now it seems. my god, that's not funny anymore . it's that's not funny anymore. it's not happening. no, indeed i
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think i read somewhere as well that you let them have work opportunities as well. i mean you are conceivably a more attractive offer than the uk, which is really saying something actually, considering that we are the land of milk and honey, i mean, people are desperate to travel across an entire continent of other european countries to come to us, and they've managed to find somewhere nearby who's even even better . better. >> yeah, well, look, look at that. we've over 100,000 ukrainian refugees in ireland. they they came. they drove the whole way across europe . and whole way across europe. and many in some instances and many instances with massive suvs, and they've driven the whole way across. why would you drive halfway across a continent? because the welfare payments and the offers of . accommodation and the offers of. accommodation and medical care are so generous that, you know, i must be mad not to go. so, like the irish government policy of , like when government policy of, like when you put out a lot of money, you're going to attract bees. and that's what's been on the go for some time. actually, i remember because i've been involved in eurosceptic movement for, well over 20 years, that
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after after irish people voted no to the first treaty of nice, that the irish government, brian cowen wrote a letter of , let's cowen wrote a letter of, let's say, comfort to other these eastern european countries that their nationals could come into ireland before, i think 2009, so it was only, britain, ireland and sweden were the only countries in western europe to which , eastern europeans could which, eastern europeans could go. and i called that the funnel effect letter. and that's what's happening again. it's like the funnel effect. free welfare, no deportation. come all year. >> and i think what's happening now is possibly worse than that because, you know, it's all very well and good people from ukraine or eastern europe etc. you know, coming over. but i think the rapid culture, total cultural and demographic change that you're going to get from people from the middle east and africa coming. i've got a i've just got a little clip here, which is, i believe, filmed outside some offices, in dublin ,
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outside some offices, in dublin, which is like a tent city. i'm just going to play that and i'll get you to react off the back of it. herm. >> well, the stay can continues to ignore this problem, which is just escalating and escalating. it's unbelievable . it's unbelievable. >> talk to me about the population growth, the demographic change and the strength of anger in ireland. please, erin. >> it is unbelievable, so since 1995, there's been a population of increase of 1.5 million people in the country is now. so it's gone from 3.5 million to over 5 million, 5.3 million people. that's 42% increase in less than 30 years. now when we started the party five years ago, at 12% of the population in ireland were non—national, it's now, according to official figures , it's now 22. so in five figures, it's now 22. so in five years, the non—national component of the population has gone up by 10. so and that's just the official figures. and
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in regards the demographics of who are these people who are coming here? well last year in dubun coming here? well last year in dublin airport, over 4000 people arrived and with no documentation , no passport or so documentation, no passport or so they said. we don't know their name , we don't know where they name, we don't know where they came from. we don't know. do they have a crime even do they have a criminal record? and there's been a sharp increase in criminality in ireland, like for example , in 2022 there were 12 example, in 2022 there were 12 murders, 12 women were murdered and five of those were murdered by non—national men . so like by non—national men. so like when you when we don't know who the people are, and especially as you mentioned, when they come from very different cultures with very different values, it's only a recipe when look, look, we're not the first country it's happened to look at germany, look at italy, look at spain, or say france and sweden, where you take in a lot of huge number of unvetted males. you're almost guaranteed an increase in
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criminality. yeah. and 79% of the people now are have had enough of immigration into ireland. >> and you just, just very, very quickly on this, herman , do you quickly on this, herman, do you think the general sense of people in in ireland, they're not they're not that angry with, with us over here saying, look, we don't we don't want these people back. they kind of understand it . understand it. >> no, it's with the irish government, of course . look, government, of course. look, look, every country must act. every country must act in its own interest. the irish government are failing to do that. they're the ones responsible. this kind of self demolition, because we love brussels is madness. it's doing our country damage and it's got to stop. >> herman, thank you very, very much. take care . that's herman much. take care. that's herman kelly there, the president of the irish freedom party. right look, coming up, rishi sunak's flagship rwanda policy is all set to kick into gear. the first flight. well, the first bloke anyway has been put on a flight and is there. he's unpacking his
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bagsin and is there. he's unpacking his bags in sunny kigali as we speak. there is one problem, though. thousands of asylum seekers are missing . we don't seekers are missing. we don't know where they are. give you my take on ten. but next. today health minister victoria atkins insisted it was vital that biological sex is respected. i will be speaking to the author and director of advocacy at sex matters, helen joyce , and that matters, helen joyce, and that is shortly.
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now health secretary victoria atkins has told times radio that the nhs is about to change course on gender ideology. changes are being planned to the nhs constitution , planned to the nhs constitution, whereby trans women will be banned from female only wards and women will be able to request to only receive intimate care from a medic of the same sex. atkins says the nhs must not eradicate women and that biological sex must be respected
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.even biological sex must be respected . even the labour party leader seems to have got the memo. check this out to get the clarity. >> is it right or is it wrong for rosie duffield to say only women have a cervix? >> well, look, biologically she of course is right about that. >> do you owe her an apology? >> do you owe her an apology? >> well , yes. >> well, yes. >> well, yes. >> is the answer to that question, by the way, joining me now to discuss this is the author and director of advocacy at sex matters is helen joyce. helen, thank you very much. is this a victory for common sense? now, you know, biology matters. all of a sudden . all of a sudden. >> yeah. it is a victory for common sense. exactly the nhs said ten years ago when they wrote this into the nhs constitution, that they would work towards having single sex wards, and then the ideologues inside nhs england put in a little annexe saying that what they meant by sex was whatever you say you are. so that promise has actually been on the books for a long time. but just sneakily, they said that sex didn't mean sex. and so good on victoria atkins for doing what she's done . it makes for a victoria atkins for doing what she's done. it makes for a mad headlines. nhs says sex is
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biological. it was real, you know, like it's water is wet and you know, you wouldn't have believed it if you'd seen this ten years ago. but it's not her fault that things have gone off the rails. she's trying to get them back on the rails now . them back on the rails now. >> yeah, and i can't really believe that before , apparently, believe that before, apparently, women could be, you know, given kind of intimate care , as it kind of intimate care, as it were, by somebody who was pretending to be their gender, which i find bizarre . which i find bizarre. >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, again, sometimes you can't be guaranteed somebody of the same sex, but the point is that you should never say, i want someone of the same sex as me, and then have someone presented to you who isn't of that sex, but they're saying they are. but this is what the, the medical regulators are saying, like they've complained about this. the british medical association has complained and called what victoria atkins is doing a culture war. and because they allow doctors, all of them, to just change their registered sex on demand, if they're men, to just say that they're women, and then they seem to think that that doctors desire to present as a member of the opposite sex
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is more important than the consent of the patient . i mean, consent of the patient. i mean, remember touching somebody intimately when they specifically refused you consent to do so? is sexual assault . to do so? is sexual assault. yeah. it is really, i mean, by that logic, essentially, women might have been sexually assaulted on the nhs for quite while. >> absolutely. yeah. i mean , we >> absolutely. yeah. i mean, we run single sex wards for a reason. this isn't me saying that i don't care about trans people's dignity as well. if you don't identify as your sex, you don't identify as your sex, you do have a difficulty in a hospital and they are going to have to work out what to do with you. but that can't override the needs of the great majority of people, in particular all women. the only way you can keep women women's safety, dignity and privacy in a hospital space is to have properly single—sex spaces because all sorts of accidents happen with curtains and so on. like it's horrible being in hospital . being in hospital. >> yeah, yeah it is. no, absolutely . it's all very well absolutely. it's all very well and good. keir starmer and other members of the labour party coming out now, i mean they're kind of rowing into bat off the back of the cast report and things. i don't know where you feel on this, but i just wonder
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if we'd had a labour government for the last. i appreciate it, by the way, that the tories have not been particularly great on this until arguably quite recently. but if we'd had a labour government for the last 14 years or so, how much worse things might be? >> i mean, you know, it's been it's been 14 years under the tories and this has all happened under their watch . so we mustn't under their watch. so we mustn't forget that. i think it was everybody right across politics decided that the easiest thing to do was to sell women down the river and to go along with this really quite mad ideology that was being pushed by really quite vicious activists . and only vicious activists. and only belatedly, are they coming back to sense. now there are more people among the conservatives who are seeing sense on this , who are seeing sense on this, and we've seen particular bravery for some from some of the ministers who are pushing back and rolling back, you know, commissioning the cass review , commissioning the cass review, this news today, the schools guidance, which is a big improvement on what's there before actually important labour figures have said that they approve of all of this. so you know, i'm hopeful that they see that the mood is changing, that people understand what has happened behind the scenes,
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under the cover of really very ideological and inexplicable and understandable language , and understandable language, and that even labour has realised that even labour has realised that this is a vote loser and that this is a vote loser and that really keir starmer doesn't want to spend four years or five years as the prime minister being asked at every wretched press conference, how many women have a penis ? like? what have a penis? like? what a depressing question to be asked when you're trying to handle ukraine and cost of living and the middle east and so on. so i think he's belatedly worked out that this is a rod for his own back. and he does have to sort it out. but the activists inside the labour party are the difficulty there. he's got to get control of them. >> i also wonder if it's activists in the civil service, people who have captured certain organisations , organisations as organisations, organisations as well. you know, that layer beyond the minister, as it were you concerned about that ? you concerned about that? >> oh, totally. i mean, one of the worst and most annoying things i've seen today was from the nhs confederation, which is a membership body that nhs trusts join, and it's meant to give them advice and support on things like legal issues. well, they brought out guidance last year that said that patients
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didn't have the right to know the actual sex of their doctors, only the stated sex of their doctors, which is clearly unlawful . like i say, this doctors, which is clearly unlawful. like i say, this is encouraging sexual assault and they've doubled down today and they've doubled down today and they've said that it's a culture war to be trying to fix this. they started this war. if they hadnt they started this war. if they hadn't come and taken our rights, we wouldn't have to be fighting to get them back. so they started it and they can damn well finish it strong. >> finish. helen thank you very, very much. it's helen joyce there to director of advocacy at sex matters. good stuff. all right. okay. look. coming up. are we asking should the british police be fully armed? okay after these horrific scenes from east london this morning, is it time that we give our boys and girls in blue more support? are they ill equipped to deal with they ill equipped to deal with the evils of modern day society? former police officer and co—founder of fair cop harry miller will be giving us his take. should we arm all the police? but next, rishi sunak's flagship rwanda policy is all set to kick into gear. there is a problem thousands of asylum seekers are on the run. they've gone missing. okay, i'm going to be giving you my take on ten.
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gb news. >> it's 10 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight . yes. it's christys tonight. yes. it's lift—off. the first illegal migrant has been sent to rwanda. >> where are these people ? >> where are these people? >> where are these people? >> so i, in most cases , i don't >> so i, in most cases, i don't i don't i don't know where those people are . people are. >> we have but we've lost thousands of them and they're on the run. because . is it now time the run. because. is it now time to arm all of our police officers ? and david cameron has officers? and david cameron has wound up the eco fanatics. i'll tell you why very, very shortly. but, yes . is tell you why very, very shortly. but, yes. is this a dating shows cruellest ever moment? >> i'm not a woman. >>— >> i'm not a woman. >> i'm not a woman. >> i knew i was born as a man.
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>>— >> i knew i was born as a man. >> all my panel tonight. it is the columnist and broadcaster esther krakue. we've got conservative mp deputy chair of the tory party, jonathan gullet, and broadcaster and author amy nicole turner. oh, yes. and what does the bbc think is wrong with this? >> for most, it's so much more rewarding than a boring old desk job. >> look at his office window . >> look at his office window. fantastic. get ready britain . fantastic. get ready britain. here we go. we've lost the illegal immigrants . we've lost the illegal immigrants. next. >> good evening. i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom. our top stories. the first migrant has reportedly been sent to rwanda. that's according to the sun. they're claiming that the unnamed man was flown out of the uk yesterday evening and is now
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in kigali after his asylum bid was rejected last year and he voluntarily agreed to move to the central african nation, receiving in turn £3,000. this scheme is said to be separate to a forced deportation programme due to start in july. if correct, it would be the first time that the government has ever relocated a failed asylum seeker to a third country. now gb news has contacted the home office for confirmation. we're still waiting for an official response. shadow home secretary yvette cooper, though, has slammed the news, describing it as an extortionate pre—election gimmick . okay to more news and gimmick. okay to more news and video has emerged showing the moment that police arrested a man wielding a sword in north east london. officers cornered him at a property bringing the suspect to the ground with three separate taser discharges as he's been arrested on suspicion of murder. following the death of murder. following the death of a 14 year old boy. the 36 year old suspect is now in hospital. police are saying that they've been unable to interview
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him due to his condition for other people were injured, including two police officers earlier , buckingham palace said earlier, buckingham palace said the king's thoughts and prayers are with all those affected. assistant met commissioner louisa rolfe says the suspect was not known to them. >> the 36 year old man arrested at the scene is currently in hospital , at the scene is currently in hospital, having at the scene is currently in hospital , having suffered hospital, having suffered injuries when his van collided with a building . injuries when his van collided with a building. he has injuries when his van collided with a building . he has been with a building. he has been arrested on suspicion of murder at this time. given his injuries, we have been unable to interview him. we know there is speculation about his background, including police contact with him and despite urgent and extensive checks today we have found no trace of a prior incident involving him so far. >> a jealous ex—partner who killed a mother in front of her two children has been handed a life sentence. 46 year old robert moyo attacked 35 year old perseverance ncube in her bedroom before chasing her into the street. once there , he
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the street. once there, he stabbed her through the heart. he's been told that he must serve a minimum of 27 years and in the us, donald trump has been threatened with jail for violating a gag order in his hush money trial. judge juan machan fined the former president $9,000 and warned him that any further infractions could lead to incarceration . could lead to incarceration. mershon had imposed the gag order to prevent mr trump from criticising witnesses and others. he was fined $1,000 for each of nine online statements. trump has argued that the gag order violates his freedom of speech. order violates his freedom of speech . for the latest stories, speech. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or you can go to gbnews.com/alerts. back to . patrick. >> thousands and thousands of illegal immigrants are on the run. we've lost them. we don't know where they are and we certainly can't deport them. so the latest is this out of around 5700 people identified for
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removal to rwanda, only 2145 continue to report to the home office and can be located for detention. so what's that then? around 3500 have vanished, have they? yeah. so if we've still got about 100,000 people waiting for their asylum application to be approved or rejected, then by that logic, do we even know where 60% of them are? all that left wing hoo—ha about how the government has lost a load of asylum seeker children? look, i don't buy it, okay? yes, some of them will be children, but let's be honest, loads of them will be adults . now, be honest, loads of them will be adults. now, as be honest, loads of them will be adults . now, as reported be honest, loads of them will be adults. now, as reported in january, there are about 45% of the 8766 kids checked by border officials since the start of 2020. turned out to be fully grown adults. some of them were in their 30s, so this bodes well, doesn't it, for people living in communities like faversham in kent, where i visited , where there is said to visited, where there is said to be an asylum centre for illegal immigrants aged allegedly 16 to 18, who will just be free to roam around, we are not keeping
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track of these people. normal people have a right to be worried and to turn it into a home for illegal immigrants that shouldn't even be in our country saying that they can't afford to do it up for our elderly. >> i'm sorry our elderly come first, and then they're going to put it right next to a school. so we've got to worry about our children. we've got to worry about our little children and our young ladies . not only that, our young ladies. not only that, we've got to worry about our elderly in the community, but is any wonder when you've got tweedle dee and tweedle dum running the show? >> i mean, these chuckle brothers from the home office have been torn to shreds by the home affairs select committee so many times i'm surprised there's anything left of them where are these people? >> so i in most cases, i don't i don't i don't know where those people are. >> we have i mean, for goodness sake, honestly, this lot really is that the best we've got? >> well, the answer's no, isn't it? but is it not time to have a
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serious conversation about tagging asylum seekers if the government is going to keep letting them in? i'm making them live in our communities and pay for them the least they can do is be able to tell us where the heck they are. it's a matter of national security. let's get the thoughts on my panel this evening. i've got columnist and broadcaster esther clark. i've also got the deputy chair of the tory party, jonathan gullace, and i have got author amy nicholl turner. astros not with you on this. you know, if it turns out that we don't know where about 60% of these people we've decided to actually send to rwanda are, i mean, is it time to maybe start tagging some people? do you think or not? >> well, i mean, there was an article last year that said that the home office couldn't account for 17,000 asylum seekers in the country, and we know that many of them just get lost in the underbelly of british society. many of them go into the gig economy where they don't have any form of formal employment . any form of formal employment. many of them particularly, it was said, for the albanians that were coming over, just started getting into illegal drug trade. one of the things that makes it easier for them to do this here
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in the uk than say, let's say france or germany is the fact that we don't have an id card system in this country, so we actually don't really know who most people are. but in particularly in this case, we don't know who these people are. many of them destroy the documentation upon coming here. when you have a local residents saying they're concerned about, you know, refugees or asylum seekers staying in hotels, it's because if they commit a crime, there's nothing in the system to even identify them. we don't know their background. you know, if i if you and i committed a crime, they know our names. they know we went to school. we they know we went to school. we they know where we live. but you have these aliens effectively in the system that can come and go that we don't know who they are. we don't know what kinds of crimes they committed. someone like abdul ezedi, for instance, who was rejected twice as his asylum claims still remain in the country. he was a convicted, sexual offender. and that's that's kind of like you know, people are questioning, how did this even happen? but there are thousands of him in the system in this country. >> now, we won't know , we won't know. >> we won't know. we don't know where they are. and we're not allowed to say we'll find out. >> we'll find out when something horrific happens. yeah, we'll find out. jonathan targum. well, look, patrick, first of all, it's important to understand
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that actually, initial cohort of around 2000 people have been identified so far who would be eligible to be deported to rwanda. those people have been now put on immigration bail, which means they'll have certain conditions as well as detention. and we know that we've increased detention capacity in this country now to 2200 spaces. of course, that is still yet to go further . we shut 150 hotels. we further. we shut 150 hotels. we already know that rwanda is acting as the effective deterrent because people, as you interviewed earlier, are on the move. the republic of ireland. in fact, patrick, i think it's very important that sky news themselves have reported that. and i quote yusuf from somalia , and i quote yusuf from somalia, that the people are scared of rwanda. that's a direct quote that he gave . where are the 3500 that he gave. where are the 3500 people? so what i think is important to remember here is that we are doing everything we can to make sure that we get this effective deterrent off the ground, and that we are the only party with a plan in parliament to make sure that we stop the boats. labour are panicking tonight as you saw with yvette cooper's pointless and waste this quote because essentially the only plan they've got is to do a dodgy deal with their buddies in brussels, which is to take 100,000 plus additional legal migrants, find the tens of thousands of the people that are already in britain that are missing. so what's important to
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understand is that, of course, with the we have increased raids , for example, on by about 80% on places that are suspected to be using the illegal black market trade, which some of those people have been falling into , which has seen a major into, which has seen a major increase in the amount of people, therefore being detained and being going through the criminal justice system, saying, i'm about to send you to rwanda, you leg it as well, wouldn't you ? >> 7. >>i ? >> i think if you gave me £3,000, i could gb news cash giveaway , i might be more giveaway, i might be more inclined to go like the asylum seeker that went today. one of the things that's important you're going to give each of them £3,000 the second. >> the second highest number of illegal migrants that have come on the boats this year are have been vietnamese. now, it's not outside of the realm of possibility to say that within the week of them landing on british shores, they're probably going to be in nail salons up and down this country. how like are these people? are these institutions ever subject to raids? i mean, people don't actually see any kind of effective policing of these individuals. saying that we've freed up more space is fine, but are there raids on where they're suspected to be living? for example ? how do you even example? how do you even identify? >> is there not a really simple way around this, which would be
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tagging? >> yes, exactly. >> yes, exactly. >> well, i wouldn't i think that's we don't need to tag. >> so you wouldn't if, if, if so you wouldn't say, well, we've got five north of £500 million haven't we, that we've put into the rwanda scheme. >> why don't we take that. oh no. and put it into asylum decision makers. okay. so we find out who everyone is. >> we've got this question. so let's go with the labour logic , let's go with the labour logic, which is that even though the fact that we've actually processed 139,000 people in the last year, which, by the way, is the most in 20 in 20 years. but let's go with labour's logic that they processed people and let's say they reject them. that person has claimed they're from iran . is person has claimed they're from iran. is labour going to person has claimed they're from iran . is labour going to return iran. is labour going to return people to iran? are they going to return to deal with iran ? if to return to deal with iran? if they don't return people to iran, where are they going to go? oh, i know they'll do what labour always does, which is an amnesty through the back door, which essentially is a return to free movement. these people , free movement. these people, this country. >> but then those people are legitimate and can contribute to our society . our society. >> but you're saying i'm saying this, you're saying that labour doesn't have a plan to return them. the tories, as we speak, are approving. i think it's 67% of asylum applications. that's 47. n0. of asylum applications. that's
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47. no. well, the average is 67, which is more than double that of the eu. so even even before we get to the returning them, how about we accept fewer. and here's a novel idea . stop here's a novel idea. stop allowing so many male refugees. where are the women and children? >> so esther, there's a very fair challenge. and obviously i've someone who's raised my concern over the percentages before. well, i will say is that the home office made it a priority to focus on women and children initially, which is why that number is much higher, because they're the ones that have gone through the claims much quicker. as well as countries such as, for example, afghanistan, where we've put a lot of energy and focus into making sure, particularly those who work with our armed forces, are able to get their ability to remain in this country as they rightly should do, as we accepted with rwanda scheme. but i think it's still important to understand that, yes, i'm unhappy and appalled at the fact that what 77% on average are young single men who shouldn't be here in the first place because of that, leaving women and children behind because of that. amy, do you not think that it is a reasonable expectation of the british taxpayer and the women and children of the local area around these asylum centres or hotels to be able to know
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where these illegal immigrants are at all times, should they not be tagged? >> i think the priority needs to be finding out who they are and letting them. how do you do that? if they destroy their lives? because that's why we have asylum decision makers. at the moment, that job is paid. about what, 20 grand? it's not prioritised, but they're not. if you have somebody destroy the correct training, and if you come off a boat and you have no documentation, i could call you tom and you couldn't. >> you couldn't argue against that. this is fundamental. like bafics that. this is fundamental. like basics. if someone entered your home, you would think, who are you? we can't even do that in this country. so what is this, this country. so what is this, this fixation on pay the people , this fixation on pay the people, processing them more? we don't know who these people are. >> i'm saying. i'm saying train them correctly so they know how to do that job and recruit a lot more. and also when you mentioned that we prioritise my crystal ball prioritised children, the home office stopped publishing data on the on the number of children going missing last october because targum targum then children, alleged children alleged as important alleged children.
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>> amy and we do that these are people who claim to be children are yet to be proven to be children, because we know that smuggling gangs are telling lots of men to claim they were 16 to 18, because they saw an increase in their chances to be able to stay in this country. but because, as esther was saying, these are people are throwing openly, publicly advertising, throwing their documentation into the english channel as they cross out the scale of the lunacy here. >> i mean, i'll give you an example. serbia has a visa free agreement with with india . so agreement with with india. so you have many indian nationals going through serbia, coming across on these boats so they can apply for asylum to get home. student visa fee, home student fees for universities. that's how ludicrous this is. you have people gaming the system so they can pay £9,000 in tuition fees, but that would be legal migration . that's not legal migration. that's not i they're asylum seekers. they're they're asylum seekers. they're they're taking student visas. they're they're applying for universities in this country as asylum seekers, which entitles them to be to pay home fees. and so they have legitimate student visa. no, but they're gaming the system. that's the point. no, i understand that, but we're not talking about legal migration. >> we're talking about illegal migration. so what do you do
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with these people? >> well, pay the people processing their claims more. >> well, the top three nationalities, what were they? iran, eritrea and afghanistan. >> afghanistan, afghanistan this year so far, sudan . year so far, sudan. >> yeah. yeah. would you like to go back there at the moment like we why have you had to travel through mainland europe? >> why have you when you're in france, why did you have to leave france? france is not war torn. france is a nuclear power. it's a nato member. it's a un founder. what's wrong with france? >> because you can't keep saying that because it would go back. >> amy, we've got ireland wanting to designate this country a safe country. yet ireland were the ones who told us by treating this, by treating the republic of ireland differently in the eu deal, that we'd have installed a hard border which undermined the good friday agreement ireland itself wants to undermine the good friday agreement based on their own logic. can i can i just get a straight answer from all of you on this? would you be okay with tagging asylum seekers, well , i'd with tagging asylum seekers, well, i'd be more okay with just sending them back, but. okay. yeah. so if they're here and they're in a hotel near you, you'd be right. yes. of course. yeah right. >> come on, patrick, flights are coming very soon. would you tell me? and we know that as soon as you enter illegally in this
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country, you're going to be put on a flight within a matter of weeks. and i think that's going to be great news. the great british public. all right. you obviously are politicians. >> answer. >> answer. >> yeah. oh thank god i think i know what you really think. you obviously anti tag even though we can't find half of them or more than half of them actually. conceivably. >> yes. because it's indefinite leave in a travelodge or maybe try your own luck. and i think it's indefinite leave they have indefinitely left. >> that's the point isn't it. we don't know where they are. >> you didn't have any chance. oh, no. ante tag. >> anti tag. all right okay. well there we go. all right. well there we go. all right. well look it's another lively start. coming up a welsh language campaigner is in court because he refused to pay a parking ticket until it was translated into welsh. i'll tell you exactly how much he is now going to. i mean, this guy, honestly, i like the welsh and i like someone who takes a stand, but this is bonkers. and now he's going to be, i mean, thousands and thousands of pounds out of pocket . i bet pounds out of pocket. i bet behind that man is a very angry wife, i think. but next should we fully arm the british police force, i'll be joined by former police officer harry miller from the campaign group fair cop,
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norman brennan, another former police officer. we're going to be talking about in light of yet another absolutely horrific attack , should we now arm the attack, should we now arm the police? okay. as a matter of course. stay tuned
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welcome back to patrick christys. tonight now, we've all seen the horrific story today of the stabbings in london. a 14
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year old boy was sadly killed and four others were injured . is and four others were injured. is it now time to fully arm britain's police forces? okay, joining me to discuss this is the founder of fair cop, harry miller and retired police officer of 31 years and founder officer of 31 years and founder of protect the protectors, norman brennan. look, i know that there is some quite horrific footage doing the rounds, and there is footage as well of this individual who's believed to be responsible for this attack being tasered, which i'm sure that we're going to actually put on the screen at some point soon. there we go. so this is this is the guy. we can see him. he's in the yellow there. he's come over a fence. he's got a sword okay. so he's got a sword and the police come out of the cars , several police out of the cars, several police officers there. this guy is allegedly been on the rampage for quite some time at this point. and the tasers come out and the tasers come out. now, i'll start with you, norman. look there is a school of thought that says if those officers had been armed and there may be fewer people would have been hurt. and in different cases as well, they might be
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more inclined to be able to nullify these individuals. your thoughts ? thoughts? >> absolutely. what i would say is this is that we don't send our army into war without weapons that are appropriate to fight a battle. exactly the same for the police , we send our army for the police, we send our army in with attack weapons and defence weapons. now, it's not really the word of do the police want to be armed ? it's more the want to be armed? it's more the need to be armed. a commissioner many years ago said the arming of the british police service will be event driven. well, we have tens of thousands of people around britain now carrying knives , carrying machetes. and knives, carrying machetes. and as we saw today , they've as we saw today, they've actually got this swords, which which is absolutely crazy. now the thing is, police, police officers are at imminent danger officers are at imminent danger of being murdered. now, tasers , of being murdered. now, tasers, pava spray, stab resistant vests
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are okay in certain circumstances, but we're sending police officers into battle. all right? ill prepared. >> i'll come back to you, norman. i'll come back to you. i want to bring. i want to bring harry in now. he's the founder of fair cop. harry you know, armed police officers as a matter of course . your view, matter of course. your view, absolutely not. >> in this country, we do not have a military police force. we have a military police force. we have a military police force. we have a civilian police force. civilians are not allowed to carry weapons as a matter of course. and neither are the police. now, the fact of the matter is, the police do carry weapons which are not available to general members of the public. norman has already mentioned spray. there are batons. many police officers are taser trained and carry carry tasers . and of course we want tasers. and of course we want them to be armed response vehicles which are available when things get out of hand. but fundamentally, we cannot afford to change the nature of our policing and borrow from the european model where we have a
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gendarmerie and the militia. it's simply not british, it's not right and it's not necessary. more than that, when we have a police force, which is political politics, plus policing is bad, but politics plus policing plus guns is an absolute disaster. and there are certain chief constables who are so politicised i wouldn't trust them with a potato gun, let alone one that fires real bullets . bullets. >> okay, norman, come back to that then . that then. >> we're the only. we're the only unarmed police service in europe, and police officers, obviously won't be armed overnight. we need to recruit people with the right temperament. now, when we saw today's attack, by the time the unarmed police officers had actually challenged this offender, a 14 year old boy had been stabbed to death. two police officers seriously injured , two members of the injured, two members of the pubuc injured, two members of the public seriously injured. now the last people to arrive on scene were armed response unit and we saw men and women pretty
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young actually working together to challenge this guy. this could have gone very wrong . a could have gone very wrong. a lot of tasers, when they're fired, hit the clothing . they fired, hit the clothing. they don't actually take down an individual, which means an officer is imminent risk. now, when we look at australia recently, there was a single female police officer that was called to a very serious armed incident. many people were being killed and her single action of discharging a firearm and taking that individual out meant that many lives were actually saved. and what i would say, finally, patrick, is this is this is that i believe every single shift until we can fully arm the british police service, should have an officer with a handgun, which means that every single area in britain , every single area in britain, every single police station in britain, has someone with a firearm on them someone with a firearm on them so they can attend these calls imminently. waiting for armed backup. >> okay, look, harry, i get what you're saying, but i suppose the argument might be. look, if everyone. well, not everyone,
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but if loads of people are walking around with swords and machetes and goodness knows what else, then they are, for want of a better phrase, outgunning, the police already , harry, aren't they? >> yeah, but the fact of the matter is, they're not. we're not american, for instance, where where people, criminals carry guns and knives routinely. now, it may be that at the moment we have the balance wrong. it may be that we need more armed response vehicles. it may be that we need more officers who are trained in firearms in order to meet the risk that, as norman points out, firearms in order to meet the risk tha is increasing. but that is entirely a different matter to routinely arming police forces that would fundamentally change our police force from that which sir robert peel intended to something which, like i said, is much more in common with america. and europe. and we don't want that. >> okay. and, harry, i'll stick with you for i'll give norman the final word, some people might feel safer knowing that a police officer is walking . police officer is walking. people like us who don't go around committing crime might feel safer when you look around and you think, i know that
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police officers aren't. if a terrorist walks through here now, i know that terrorists getting shot . getting shot. >> well, again, when i'm when i'm in the states, i know that every police officer is fully armed. and that does not make me feel safe at all. at all because i know that there is a corresponding escalation of weaponry in the bad guys , and weaponry in the bad guys, and that's not what we want. we are. this is this is britain , this is this is this is britain, this is britain. we are not europe, and we are not america . and i don't we are not america. and i don't want to see an escalation. what i want to see is operational tactics that that give the correct and the sufficient amount of firepower to our officers. but it must remain a minimum. it cannot become standard issue. >> all right, norman, look , two >> all right, norman, look, two points for you here, which is, firstly, what about tyranny? okay. so you end up in a situation where we decide that more police officers should be armed, and then they do become increasingly politicised. and thatis increasingly politicised. and that is a slippery slope. i think my government, the other one as well, is, well, look, what about if police officers end up discharging their weapon and they keep getting sued?
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we've had a recent issue where, loads of armed police started to put their guns down for a bit because they found themselves in court on murder charges . court on murder charges. >> when police officers are trained to be carrying firearms, they make the training is absolutely , you know, exemplary. absolutely, you know, exemplary. the criminal justice system will be in place where it actually supports them at this moment. time you're absolutely right. it doesn't. tyranny. we're police are being outgunned. they're being attacked. they're being maimed and sometimes murdered. and police, when the public see that and they see that the police don't feel safe, they don't feel safe . now, what about don't feel safe. now, what about all those officers out in the shires where the armed response is 30 minutes away? you turn up single crewed, there's an armed gunman coming out of the co—op or wherever it is the public safe. thank goodness the police officers here that person pulls a firearm on you because he sees you as a threat to arrest him and you're in uniform and all you have is a baton, pava spray and a stab resistant vest. i'm
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afraid you may well lose your life. and officers are being sent out to armed calls, and it's like sending lambs to slaughter . it's like sending lambs to slaughter. i'm afraid if you're a police officer as much as the pubuc a police officer as much as the public may not like it, and most police officers don't, i'm afraid it's not the wanting. it's the needing of police officers to be armed. all right, chaps, look, both of you, thank you very, very much. >> we could have carried that on for a lot longer, but we are bang out of time. i'm afraid that's the founder of fair cop harry miller and retired police officer of 31 years, and founder officer of 31 years, and founder of protect the protectors. it's norman brennan. who do you agree with on this ? we've been asking with on this? we've been asking you. is it time that we fully arm the british police? okay, so your verdict is now in 61.2% of your verdict is now in 61.2% of you agree or think that we should fully arm the british police? apparently, 38.8% of you say no. so there we go . say no. so there we go. interesting. now coming up, find out which minister is swanning around on this private jet in between jobs . do they need such between jobs. do they need such splendour? well, napping between destinations, do we think? but next. tomorrow's newspaper front pages. they've just landed. i'll
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be delivering them all to you very,
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welcome back to patrick christys . tonight. it's time to bring you tomorrow's news. tonight with the first of the front pages. let's do it . all right, pages. let's do it. all right, so we're going in with the daily telegraph school boy killed in daylight, sword rampage. i mean, that headline says it all, really, doesn't it? you've got an individual there with a sword , game changing prostate cancer screening may cut deaths by 40. is there other lead we've got now , the financial times, yeah . now, the financial times, yeah. trump hit with contempt of court. fine for attacks on hush money. witness. all right, let's go to the daily mail. prostate scans that could cut deaths by 40. so similar story there to the front of the telegraph as well of course. so that's suburban sword rampage leaves boy 14, dead. the metro . yeah. boy 14, dead. the metro. yeah. there's a theme here. courage of sword cops. boy 14, killed in
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that sword rampage. we just whizz you through now to the eye again. they focus on that sword slaying at the times. it's the other one i've got for you here. immigration levels fall amid visas crackdown. number of foreign workers drops as first illegal migrants are relocated to rwanda. can i just politely suggest, when you dig into exactly who it is that we have sent to rwanda, is possibly less of a deterrent. we have paid him. but anyway , the sword him. but anyway, the sword rampage in suburb leaves. boy 14 dead and four wounded. right. okay. i am, of course, joined by my panel as you made a good point to me there in the break, which is, i mean, clearly it's astonishingly easy, i imagine, to get a sword in britain . yes. to get a sword in britain. yes. >> which i find strange, but you can getit >> which i find strange, but you can get it online now. yeah which is mad. what could you possibly want to do with the sword other than something nefarious? >> red flag . >> red flag. >> red flag. >> this is what i don't understand. it's so bizarre to me who thinks. let me just go and get a sword. like you're some sort of poundland samurai,
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yeah, i mean, surely, i mean , yeah, i mean, surely, i mean, you know, i'm not all one for censorship and all this stuff, but, i mean, the idea that you could presumably just get by a samurai sword in this country is absolutely astonishing. well, look, we've obviously introduced laws in recent times that have actually made it illegal for these type of weapons to be sold online, as well as just in person, which has been long standing. however sadly, with the web it's very, very hard, particularly the dark web, to be able to monitor everything that's going on because that type of technology is advancing a rate of knots that is well beyond our capability to control the best of times. but what we do need to make sure is as and when we know that these type of instruments are being delivered, that the police are immediately following up and detaining people because, as esther rightly says , what on earth rightly says, what on earth would you be needing to do with anything like this? >> we need to bring back, stop and search. this is the thing. all the conversations we have around stop and search actually don't highlight the efficacy of it. i agree with the times that it's done. there's a police action follows from it. i think we need to start taking these sorts of things seriously because at the end of the day, if you have people walking around with these frightening looking knives, there has to be a greater deterrent than just
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hoping that the internet connection shuts down, which is why sadiq khan's got questions to answer when he saw stop and search dropped by around 40% in london. >> i don't think that this case is necessarily a typical case, though, because that it doesn't. you don't see it's become typical in london, sadly. sound mind. i mean, is this not the case for knife crime is on the increase in london, where it's been on the decrease in other parts of the country. >> this this to me is more 7:00 in the morning. i just can't, it's clearly mentally unwell. >> but what i think you have to have sort of more covert operations so that people, you know, mimicking websites that mimic these sites that sell swords , that the police can use swords, that the police can use to track down people. >> and this is this is just this is just today's thing, right? i mean, like this, this. okay this is an extreme example. fine. but i mean, we see every single day i mean, we see every single day i could, if i wanted to just play i could, if i wanted to just play a clip on the show of someone wandering around with a machete in a corner shop or something. i did it yesterday. you know, this is just the latest in a long line of this, but it is time now for our first viral video of the night. so pictures of the private jet that the foreign secretary, lord
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david cameron of chipping norton, is jazzing around the world. they've gone viral this week. it looks all right to me. let's be honest. but does he need such splendour? well, he's battling a cost of living crisis. essentially, he's copped it because he's on this jet quite a lot. all right, the eco mob have wound themselves up over it. i'm quite. i'm quite conflicted over this because stuck between not really liking david cameron very much, but also not really liking the eco mob. so i don't really know where where i stand on this is this too much, amy, do you think he shouldn't be? he should be walking to round the world. should he? >> yeah, he should be on an easyjet flight taking canoes. yeah. no, i understand he's a busy man. he needs to get from a to b. he's probably one of the few people that warrants a private jet. fine. but maybe not the best, maybe not that one. maybe just a more low key. >> hang on a minute. you can't say no. i mean, it's our foreign secretary. you don't think that's a £42 million private jet? >> well, private jets don't typically come cheap, but come on, that's like the. i'm just saying. i don't know how much you. isn't there a government plane like. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> one plane. there's a lot of people who need to use foreign
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secretary. and obviously it's entirely appropriate for the foreign secretary be able to get from a to b as much as he wants to, to be able to go across the globe in order to not only keep britain strong in the rest of the world, but also in these particular times of turbulence with war in ukraine and unrest in the middle east. >> well, you know what i would like to see a ban on these celebrities that run their mouths about about the climate. they should get a ban on private jets because they're just by taking a private jet, they're polluting four times, 14 times more than the average commercial, than the average person. >> so, you know, then lecture us, but then lecturers and then lecturers and then lecturers ban on them. >> but the foreign secretary, he can go in a private plane, but just ideally the government i mean, but i mean he is conceivably doing i mean he is doing things for this country. >> i mean that's better than just like deciding to use personal jet. >> is it. no. yeah, exactly. it's on behalf. it's for the state. yeah >> there are other countries in the world that would find it hilarious that we're bickering over whether or not the foreign secretary of our country should go on the plane. >> have you heard of mobutu sese seko when he. he had, like a private jet that he used to fly from congo to paris with his wives to go shopping? i mean,
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this is not with his with his with his wives. wives, plural. >> that's the only way that story could have got more ridiculous. >> well, yeah, exactly. so this is not that extravagant. >> all right, look, i've got a quick pair of insight. >> all right, look, i've got a quick pair of insight . we've got quick pair of insight. we've got a quick pair of insight stories down to discuss with our panel. right. |, | down to discuss with our panel. right. i, i thoroughly enjoyed reading this story earlier. so a welsh driver who refused to pay a parking fine because it was issued in english is being taken back to court. so the language campaigner had been issued with originally a £60 fine in 2020, the costs have now risen to £10,156.70. the welsh language society has said the cost of translating the notice into welsh would have cost the parking company £60. so who's in the right here? all right. should they have just translated it, or is this guy now taking the mickey? i'm for , all you the mickey? i'm for, all you know, sort of making a point. i do it quite regularly, but i can't help but wonder as to whether or not this guy has got a very miserable and soon to be bankrupt wife behind him here. >> well, he understood the parking fine enough to know that
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it was a parking fine, so i don't think the rest was. i numbers are universal, so the maths of the six zero and the pound sign would have been , pound sign would have been, legible for him. it's just an idiot with loads of money. >> he's not. this is kind of his. his whole cause he's got . his. his whole cause he's got. >> god, god, god . >> god, god, god. >> god, god, god. >> when you first read the headline. yeah, he sounds a bit loopy. but then when you read into his whole story and he's so passionate about keeping the welsh language going in wales, andifs welsh language going in wales, and it's actually under the welsh government, you have to have all the government stuff in engush have all the government stuff in english and wales. then when it comes to private stuff it's a bit different. but then where do parking fines land in that? so here's a case i would also ask and he actually won it. >> does it matter. you know what i mean. >> it matters to him. >> it matters to him. >> it matters to him to point out you don't want the welsh language to die out. >> no, i don't, i don't i don't million people who live in the uk, half a million, 500,000, roughly speak welsh. >> so just putting this into context about the importance of this reason to keep it going. >> welsh language is part of the
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school curriculum , so it is school curriculum, so it is being kept going. but for god's sake, £60 fine. and now he's making ten grand to make a point. it's virtually, you know, what would have happened? they could have remedied it with £60 and no, like a dog with a bone. the parking company should have to remedy it because the guy understood that it was a parking fine. as i said, he should just paid the parking fine and moved on, i can tell. finds another hobby man. i can find another hobby man. i can find another hobby for you. i can tell you exactly what would have happen if it is a he him. i should in case i'm exactly what would happenin case i'm exactly what would happen in my house. i would have made a point over this. i would have made a very principled stand for all of about a week, until emily had just turned around to me and gone right. you're being ridiculous now, and it's giving me the egg. send a letter of complaint in welsh to the parking company and pay the fines . incredibly petty over fines. incredibly petty over this. i'd have paid it in pennies , but if he got a cheque, pennies, but if he got a cheque, that would have been it in in english. >> would he have complained ? oh, >> would he have complained? oh, i don't know if he got like if he won the lottery in his place in english, you know. >> does he get paid? is he paid in english or not? is the question you need to know now. all right. get a hobby, mate .
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all right. get a hobby, mate. get a hobby, get a hobby. he's his hobby. he'll end up being a tory councillor or something right now. now the. moving on. moving on, the pro—palestine protest in america . look, we protest in america. look, we think we've got it bad here. this is nuts. this is nuts. they're now basically just trespassing, vandalising university campuses, as you can see in this video. right. they're barricading themselves into buildings. they're smashing windows. now, last time i checked, that was against the law. but it goes worse than that. they are now like actively blocking jewish people. just anyone who's a jew. yeah, from from going into campus is i mean this this actually, i know there's this rule of like, oh, you know, don't bring up the nazis when you bring up the nazis, you've lost the argument. but, i mean, this is not a million miles off. what the nazis did. to be fair. look, the intimidation of jewish lecturers and jewish students on us campuses is in a complete abomination. and these students clearly haven't studied history well enough because they haven't seen the slippery slope that this, sadly, will lead to. as you said, and not just in germany, but actually across mainland europe in many cases in
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that period as well, albeit didn't reach the scale as it did under nazi german rule. what is absolutely disgusting is these university students, these privileged few who think that they can somehow ruin the education of many people who just want to go about and better themselves, is a complete abomination. it's time to get out the water cannons. it's time to get out the pepper spray. it's time to get out the plastic pellet guns if necessary. and let's teach these students a lesson. once and for all. i mean, i mean, this is i mean, look, it's here. we had the holocaust memorial stone covered up in plastic. we have had, which is covered up for all demonstrations . okay. all right. demonstrations. okay. all right. but we have had genuine cases of massive amounts of anti—semitism and intimidation on the streets. this is another level . all this is another level. all right. you must be against this. you must be surely i'm against. >> against course i'm against criminal damage. of course i'm against anything criminal damage. >> but the fact that jewish people are being banned from. well, i get that. >> i haven't seen. so i haven't seen a video that goes viral . seen a video that goes viral. i've seen a lot of criticism of the israeli government, which i
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don't think that says a lot about people you follow. >> you are? yeah. all right. >> you are? yeah. all right. >> just to be clear, though, these people, these people are using the palestinian cause to as a vehicle for their narcissism and to display their lack of education. and the actual biggest victims of this are the people that they claim to be defending, because they are , as we speak now, upwards of are, as we speak now, upwards of 35,000 victims of this war, both on the israeli side , but on the israeli side, but majority obviously on the gazan side and when you see these scenes of people claiming to represent them, that's the biggest insult. i don't care where you stand on this, you're insulting the people that you're claiming to defend. >> and just to be very clear, you do not think that it's okay for jews to be banned from going forjews to be banned from going into obviously not. >> but that's not the clip we were discussing. we were talking about columbia university, which is protested against. >> it's kind of in their tradition. >> they've been against the iraq war, the vietnam war. it's part of columbia's university to be peacefully protesting . peacefully protesting. >> all right. woke university shouted out, look, coming up, coming up. it's my favourite
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moment of the show. we're going to crown tonight's greatest britain. and union jack has got some more front pages as well. i'll see you in a sack.
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welcome back to patrick christys. tonight. i've got some more from pages for you. let's do it . it's the more from pages for you. let's do it. it's the guardian. 22 minutes of horror. boy killed in sword rampage. the big picture story there of that man on the rampage with a sword. minister lifts cap on faith . school lifts cap on faith. school selection as well. faith schools in england will no longer have to offer up to half their places to offer up to half their places to children who don't belong to their religion under fine. what's the point? otherwise, it's not faith school , is it? so it's not faith school, is it? so there we go. right? the independent rwanda flight fast tories hunt for 3500 missing migrants. minister vows vanished . asylum seekers will be found. all right. okay, fine , i mean, all right. okay, fine, i mean, there won't be. will be, because they've gone, but there we go anyway . right? i'm
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they've gone, but there we go anyway. right? i'm joined again by my press pack. we've got columnist and broadcaster esther krakue. we've got jonathan gullies, the conservative mp, deputy chair of the tories , and deputy chair of the tories, and author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. now we're going to have to rattle through this. so look, i've been teasing this throughout the course of the show. take a look at this happy train driver. >> for most, it's so much more rewarding than a boring old desk job. >> look at this office window. fantastic can you all tell what the bbc thinks wrong with this ? the bbc thinks wrong with this? yeah. any ideas? well, they wrote an article with the headune wrote an article with the headline train drivers are overwhelmingly middle aged white men, but a savvy twitter user left a helpful community. note. it said britain is overwhelmingly white, being a train driver takes many years of training and responsibility. building so most drivers will be older, driving professionals are all dominated by men and in rail. this is likely because part time driving is blocked by the unions, so there we go. i mean, scrap the licence fee. scrap the licence fee . all scrap the licence fee. all right. that's quite extreme . right. that's quite extreme. yeah. all right.
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>> it always makes me wonder, like you would never go to korea and be like, oh, there are too many, too many asian drivers here. like, why, why do people do this? >> why does it matter as well? really? seriously? i mean, i don't care who's going to train as long as they know how to drive the train. yeah that's that's all i care about. >> you want the best train driver for the job, so let's equal out the level. >> don't even you don't believe that comment? >> i would love to see a lot more female bin cleaners and bricklayers. and that's they just want the choice . see the best. >> we just want the choice. >> we just want the choice. >> we've got the job. let's. let's advertise for more female bricklayers and see how many take that. >> i mean, you do have the choice. i mean, no, it's baffling you what it's about, isn't it? >> choice. >> choice. >> retraining. be the pioneer. >> retraining. be the pioneer. >> i'd love to see you as a fireman. oh, retrain. >> retrain . >> retrain. >> retrain. >> i think i look quite good. yeah. >> i mean, this is. i mean, why we need to scrap the licence fee, though that is still important to make sure we get one headline. you have to scrap the licence fee . okay. another the licence fee. okay. another time. what about strictly come dancing? go that's not the teletubbies. what did you just say? >> strictly? >> strictly? >> yeah. what about strictly come dancing?
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>> i don't believe in scrapping the licence fee, but that's not a great, strictly come dancing. >> yeah. i mean, you could have gone. that will always pull you back in—depth documentaries that they do or something like that. i mean, watching ann widdecombe getting dragged around a ballroom floor is not good. yeah. anyway, for our final video for tonight , is this the video for tonight, is this the most right? is this the most heartless moment on a dating show ever? yeah >> i'm not a woman. i knew i was born as a. man. oh >> okay, so if you missed that. yeah after going through a very long period of time of trying to woo that individual, it turned out that she's a bloke. and that is the moment. >> she's a trans woman. god sake. >> well, she just said herself she's not a woman because they wrote that in the script. >> she was disappointed . and now >> she was disappointed. and now she, she said, well, she said it, she said it. she, she didn't want to say that. >> we're just using her anyway. >> we're just using her anyway. >> so can i just tangent bit of a tangent. >> that's not the scandal here. sorry. that was the scandal. not bloke did not want did not want to be going on dates with a trans woman. right. he did not
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want for whatever reason i'm glad to be intimate with a trans man. >> well done. >> well done. >> and they've essentially quoted her words. so she he's speaking her truth , which is speaking her truth, which is one's words. >> sky. one's badly scripted words that have not aged well and are now think it's to cruel like so someone you get someone on a dating show and it's and they might be intimate with that individual and then all of a sudden you go, sorry, you've just kissed a bloke. >> i thought the it's more cruel to say bloke. >> okay, come on bloke et and there we go. >> well we've reached a compromise on bloke et. it's time now to reveal those greatest britain union jackass don't be quick with this. we have to be quick with this. as to who's your greatest britain, please, victoria atkins, for saying that the nhs is not going to sacrifice the word woman to be more inclusive. >> hallelujah for common sense. finally. >> okay. strong start. jonathan rishi sunak for telling the irish they need to get over themselves and realise that maybe they should take stopping the boats more seriously. you know someone who brown noses more than me? you've nominated your boss as great as britain.
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fantastic. all right, go on. abbyis fantastic. all right, go on. abby is your greatest britain it's frank skinner because he said that we should change the football anthem from three lions. because the lionesses won. so we don't need a song about wishing and longing to win the cup. because we did so. now we need a new one. flipping heck, i thought you'd like it. >> i knew you'd like it. >> i knew you'd like it. >> we're going. so we're going. so, frank skinner for saying that the guy who was part of the old three lions song, right. that's right, isn't it? you know, and then he thinks that we should change it because the lionesses won. >> so it no longer stands. >> so it no longer stands. >> but it does because it's a song about the men's football team . team. >> but it's a song about wanting to win and not just enjoy the original song. >> and like someone else can write a new song, the men need to change the song just right. >> you don't have to. it's just an idea. no, i don't know why i'm debating this. >> i think it's a load of rubbish anyway. right. okay. today's winner. today's greatest britain, is victoria atkins. yes. there we go. a bit of common sense. nice to have that. a rare thing in politics and life. these days, apparently, so who's your union jackass keir
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starmer for bottling it again about women . and, yes, apologise about women. and, yes, apologise to rosie duffield. and just continuing to just weasel his way through this debate and treating anything to do with actual women's spaces as something that's toxic when it's actually true , i think. actually true, i think. >> do we have a clip of this? no. well fair enough. no, we'll never know. anyway, he was on good morning britain this morning, you know, reverse harassing big time over gender and all of that stuff gone on, on the news. jack carson some creperie over in france that decides to not serve, british armed forces personnel . because armed forces personnel. because i don't know, really. they seem to forgotten that we bailed them out in world war one and world war two there as well. literally there, by the way. so i mean, these the owners of this creperie could remember that perhaps we could give the white flag that we had to pick up when we went through and liberated them and returned it back to them. >> how did you find that story? >> how did you find that story? >> very great research as a gb news. i mean, it's a load of crap, isn't it? >> oh, really? >> oh, really? >> thank you very much. yes, i am literally here all week, but yes. no, i mean, that is i find that absolutely astonishing. go on. amy, who's your union jackass? victoria atkins .
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jackass? victoria atkins. >> okay, but common sense for saying that the that single sex wards which don't even exist because the nhs is so rubbish. they should just put trans women in in a side room. have you been on a maternity ward? >> who do you expect to find? >> who do you expect to find? >> have you been on any other ward? they're all completely mixed all the time on a maternity ward. >> well , sps, when the trans maternity ward. >> well, sps, when the trans men come in next to you, you're going to be next to a big hairy bloke, which is what you've asked for now. >> so. okay, interesting. >> so. okay, interesting. >> i don't even want a picture of hairy bloke giving birth, to be honest. no i don't think anyone men can't give birth, by the way. >> that's a biological fact that men cannot give birth. >> there's a few that have. >> there's a few that have. >> no, no, they're not men grave. they're not men. can we say biology is a fact? today's winner of the union jackass is a kyrees, isn't it? there we go. i'll see you tomorrow . keir in i'll see you tomorrow. keir in pmqs. okay. all right. look, can i just say massive thank you. i've thoroughly enjoyed this evening's chat. i'll be back tomorrow at 9 pm. it's headliners next. for even more of these front pages. and what's inside the book as well. thank you, thank you, thank you. see
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you, thank you, thank you. see you tomorrow at nine. take it easy. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news. news. news. >> time for your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. good evening to you. a different day tomorrow in the east. we'll have much more cloud compared to today, whereas in the west it should be a little brighter still. some wet weather around though across parts of wales and southwest england this evening, affecting the west midlands to that showery rain . midlands to that showery rain. working into southwest scotland at the same time, a few showers coming into eastern england, particularly norfolk, suffolk and up towards lincolnshire. many other areas there will be dry quite a mild night, temperatures in some towns and cities staying in double digits onto wednesday, and a very different day across the northeast of england and eastern scotland. much more cloud around . there will be some rain at times here as well, particularly across the far north—east through the late morning into the early afternoon . a much the early afternoon. a much brighter day though, for wales and southwest england. we'll see
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some sunny spells for northern ireland and particularly western scotland. 18 degrees likely here and further south. with a bit of brightness. we might get close to 20 celsius, but in the south, late on. look at this. some heavy rain working up from france and we could well see some big downpours and some thunderstorms, particularly through the early hours of thursday morning across southern england , maybe the midlands and england, maybe the midlands and parts of south wales. so some rumbles of thunder , some flashes rumbles of thunder, some flashes of lightning. they'll be clearing away during thursday morning but still staying cloudy with some showers in the south on thursday. many places elsewhere seeing some good spells of sunshine but cool and cloudy on some of these north sea coasts , but in the sunshine sea coasts, but in the sunshine 20 degrees possible in western scotland. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> good evening. i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom. headliners is coming right up. but first, our top stories tonight. the first migrant has reportedly been sent to rwanda. according to the sun newspaper there claiming that the unnamed man was flown out of the uk yesterday evening and is now in kigali after his asylum bid was rejected last year and he voluntarily agreed to move to the central african nation, receiving £3,000. this scheme is said to be separate to a forced deportation programme due to start in july. if correct, it
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would be the first time that the government has ever relocated a failed asylum seeker to a third country. shadow home secretary yvette cooper has slammed the news as an extortionate pre—election gimmick. gb news contacted the home office for confirmation . now, without confirmation. now, without confirming the story, they issued this statement. we are now able to send asylum seekers to rwanda under our migration and economic development partnership. this deal allows people with no immigration status in the uk to be relocated to a safe third country, where they will be supported to rebuild their lives . video has rebuild their lives. video has emerged showing the moment that police arrested a man wielding a sword in north—east london. officers cornered him at a property, bringing the suspect to the ground with three separate taser discharges. he's been arrested on suspicion of murder following the death of a 14 year old boy. the 36 year old suspect is now in hospital. police are saying that they've been unable to interview him due to his condition . four other to his condition. four other people were injured, including two police officers . a jealous
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