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show next up, the throughout the show next up, the growing dispute over who should look after the increasing numbers of asylum seekers in ireland. the uk says it won't accept any returns of those who've travelled there until eu law is changed. they want an open borders now suddenly they changed their minds. there's also a huge benefits row looming after the government revealed plans to replace sickness benefits payments with vouchers. would that be fair or an attack on disabled people's rights.7 we'll have a full debate on that. and finally, we have this the astonishing footage showing how a machete wielding thug is locked into a shop by its owner dunng locked into a shop by its owner during an attempted armed robbery . the shop here at robbery. the shop here at shopkeeper is a total hero. >> sadly , they got away and >> sadly, they got away and that's all coming up in your next hour. what was the show?
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hope you had a cracking weekend. >> what a weekend it's been because it's a long time in politics. 48 hours humza yousaf on friday at close of play said i vow to fight on now he's had it. >> he's history. >> he's history. >> he's history. >> he's stepping down. finally face the music. what next for scotland? will they ditch at last? >> the trans politics, the hate crime stuff and the net zero zealotry? >> or is that too much to hear for get in touch all the usual ways, and there's a new way to do that. send your views and post your comments by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay. i've just logged in. you'll see my ugly mush. leave some replies, keep them clean . i'll leave and i'll them clean. i'll leave and i'll read out a few before the end of the show. loads of gets stuck into. but first it's time for your latest news headlines. >> very good afternoon to you. it's just after 3:00 and we start with the latest developments in our top story this afternoon, that a contest for a new snp leader will now
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take place, after the scottish first minister announced his resignation, humza yousaf admitted he underestimated the level of upset caused by cutting political ties with the greens. he'll continue in his post until a replacement is found. mr yousaf says that he's quitting to help repair relationships across the scottish political divide . divide. >> i could never have dreamt that one day i would have the privilege of leading my country . privilege of leading my country. people who looked like me were not in positions of political influence. let alone leading governments when i was younger. but we now live in a uk that has a british hindu prime minister, a british hindu prime minister, a muslim mayor of london, a black welsh first minister and for a little while longer , the for a little while longer, the scots first minister of this country . so for those who decry country. so for those who decry that multiculturalism has failed across the uk, i would suggest that the evidence is quite to the contrary . the contrary. >> following that announcement,
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former deputy first minister john sweeney says he's now carefully considering whether to run as the snp's next leader. >> i've got lots of things to think about and there's the whole question of my family and ihave whole question of my family and i have to make sure that i do the right thing by my family. they're precious to me. i have to do the right thing by my party and by my country. so there's lots to be thought about, and i'll give all of that consideration in the days to come . come. >> two men are due in court this afternoon charged with murder afternoon charged with murder after a torso was found at a nature reserve in salford . nature reserve in salford. greater manchester police believe human remains at three other locations also belong to the same victim, thought to be a man in his 60s. though formal identification is ongoing, the initial discovery was made by a member of the public at kersal dale wetlands three and a half weeks ago . in other news, a man weeks ago. in other news, a man has admitted killing a pensioner who was on a mobility scooter in west london. lee byers stabbed
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87 year old thomas ohalloran in the neck and chest in what was described as a motiveless attack in august 2022. it happened just five days after the 45 year old was released from prison. he denied murder but did plead guilty to manslaughter by diminished responsibility . diminished responsibility. dozens of migrants have been rescued from the channel after their small boat got into difficulty off the french coast . difficulty off the french coast. it's understood a number of people were pulled out from the water and taken to the port at calais. the latest rescue operation comes after senior border force officials have raised concerns that people in small boats are using children as human shields to evade french police. last week, over 900 migrants crossed to the uk, with 359 arrivals on saturday alone . 359 arrivals on saturday alone. 51 were rescued after they ran aground . a debate on whether aground. a debate on whether assisted dying should be legalised for terminally ill people will be held later this afternoon. if you're watching on television , these are live
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television, these are live pictures coming to us from outside parliament, where campaigners have gathered in their hundreds. it's after more than 200,000 people signed a petition backed by dame esther rantzen, calling for a change to the law . assisted suicide is the law. assisted suicide is currently banned in england, wales and in northern ireland. in scotland, though it's not a specific criminal offence, but people who do help others to end their own lives risk being charged with murder or other offences . and those who oppose offences. and those who oppose the change in the law say that vulnerable people could be pressured into ending their lives . new laws protecting lives. new laws protecting consumers from hacking and cyber attacks are now in force, with all smart devices required to meet minimum security standards . meet minimum security standards. manufacturers of products like phones, tvs and smart doorbells are now legally required to protect internet connected devices against possible access by criminals. common passwords like one, two, three, four, five are now banned in the uk as part of a world first legislation,
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and users will be prompted to change them . and we're being change them. and we're being warned to brace ourselves for even more food price rises with been even more food price rises with beer, biscuits and bread among the items expected to jump. the wet weather has meant that harvests of barley and wheat could be down by as much as a fifth. storms and flooding throughout the last few months have also forced british farmers to constantly delay sowing. sowing crops . the warning comes sowing crops. the warning comes just as food prices are beginning to fall following soaring inflation was sparked by the global gas price crisis . the global gas price crisis. that's the latest from the newsroom. ray addison will have your next update at 3:30. until then, do sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen, or go to gbnews.com slash alerts. >> thank you sam. now of course, we kick off the hour with the big news this monday afternoon that scottish national party
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leader humza yousaf has sensationally quit, triggering a search for a successor and a new first minister. the first minister made a statement at bute house earlier on. let's take a listen. >> i've concluded that repairing our relationship across the political divide can only be done with someone else at the helm . helm. >> well, members of the scottish parliament now have to back a replacement in that post within 28 days. let's go live to edinburgh, scotland . reporter edinburgh, scotland. reporter tony mcguire. tony, welcome to the show. well, on friday when we last spoke at close of play , we last spoke at close of play, humza yousaf said he'd fight on. now he's simply dropped out. but let's face it tony, he jumped before he was pushed into . before he was pushed into. >> yes that's correct martin. i mean, very much not too dissimilar from what actually happenedin dissimilar from what actually happened in thursday morning. you know, he jumped from the bute house agreement before the greens pushed themselves out of
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it. and then, sure enough, if you were keeping up with things over the weekend, you could see that he was really caught between a rock and a hard place. on whether he was trying to support and gain support from both either alba or , you know, both either alba or, you know, go back to the scottish greens. either way , there were factions either way, there were factions within the snp that wouldn't have been happy in this morning. you know, we saw the culmination of all that and indeed his resignation. so as you say, 28 days for the scottish national party to find a replacement. otherwise we go to a scottish election. now, there's already been some names thrown into the mix. john swinney, who we actually spoke to earlier on now he was nicola sturgeon's deputy first minister. he didn't want the job when his first minister left. but you know he's refusing to rule himself out now, which is an interesting take. you know , he's wants to make sure, as we heard in the bulletin, there , heard in the bulletin, there, this is right for his family, for the party, for the country. and indeed, you know, a lot of people would think that he would
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be the continuity candidate for nicola sturgeon's continuity candidate. and there's big questions about whether that strategy is actually worked out well enough for the snp to move on to give it another go . and on to give it another go. and then we've also got, of course , then we've also got, of course, kate forbes and you know, she is in the running, as well as some unknown names like neil grey. but what's interesting is that a lot of people are now coming out on to social media. they're wanting to share anas sarwar. he's still after his election. of course, he put in that vote of no confidence as well as, you know, he thinks that this snp still completely incapable of leading the country. but interestingly, douglas ross, you know, speaking earlier on today and obviously leader of the scottish conservatives , he said scottish conservatives, he said it's clear humza yousaf has decided to jump. before he was pushed, as you say. but he also said we will continue to work tirelessly to hold the snp to account. now clearly he's not expecting us to go to an
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election any time soon. it may be that he's working to give the snp space to recalibrate now. john swinney, when he spoke to his earlier on today, certainly he said that, you know, he intends the snp to go into the next two years, 2026 is the next scottish election and it may well be that we will still have an snp government. well be that we will still have an snp government . however, an snp government. however, a minority by that point . minority by that point. >> okay, tony mcguire, superb as eve r. >> even >> thank you for that update . >> thank you for that update. live from outside holyrood and let's go live now , let's move on let's go live now, let's move on to our next guest and we'll speak to freelance columnist at the scotsman, alastair stewart, to get his reaction . alastair, to get his reaction. alastair, welcome to the show. so we spoke at the tail end of last week. humza yousaf went mic woke and now he's gone. mic broke , a now he's gone. mic broke, a fantastic series of events. >> i've never seen a political act of harry carey like it. >> on thursday morning he ejected the greens from government in a bid to stabilise his leadership, everything that could go wrong after that has
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gone wrong. he's now quit today, quite rightly, before he was pushed, it was very much anticipated that he would lose two votes this week, one that was going to be in him as first minister and the second in his government. >> and there are serious questions, existential questions now facing the snp of how they deliver on the priorities for scotland to use a political phrase, but also where they want to go next in independence and who can best be the leader to take that forward . take that forward. >> hard questions and hard times for the party and alyssa, do you think we might see some common sense return to a bit of a deep reboot of politics? >> scottish politics seem to take this diversion into transgender issues, into hate crime, obsession, into net zero zealotry. will we see change or will we see continuity? is change too much to hope for? >> business is normal is now over for the snp. >> the issues that drove mr yousaf from office still very much remain. this is a game of
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numbers now. now the snp need a candidate . they need a first candidate. they need a first minister that can drive consensus in the scottish parliament. that means working with the greens. so back to square one with working with the very people that you had in government then kicked out of government. but the support there for the snp overall is not there for the snp overall is not there anymore. so it also means trying to appease scottish labour and the scottish conservatives . there has to be a conservatives. there has to be a consensus character takeover . it consensus character takeover. it can't be someone that stands up and says, as mr yousaf does, he wants to make scotland tory free. the days of the snp is to survive of that kind of rhetoric have to be over for their own future and, as we'd expect, until the bitter end with humza yousaf, he talks about identity politics. >> he talks about how nobody who looked like him had ever been in power. he didn't mention glasgow , but he mentioned gaza. what do you think humza yussef's legacy will be? it was only in office,
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what, 31 short months and spectacularly , it ended in a car spectacularly, it ended in a car crash. how will he be remembered ? >> 7. >>i 7- >> i can't 7_ >> i can't take 7 >> i can't take credit for this. but humza, the brief is now the nickname that's doing the rounds onune nickname that's doing the rounds online and in the scottish press. >> and i believe that there's a lot of truth to that. >> he had a year to prove himself, to prove that he was different to his predecessors , different to his predecessors, and to find his own legacy. if you're asking me to find what the best things about him are, it is hard to find them as it is to hard find the worst things about them. it's been consistent mishandling of opportunities that have been presented to him. the overemphasis on international affairs, i think, is one that is going to go down to haunt him because it's come at the expense of focusing on scottish priorities. now that sounds like a cliche, but the nhs, of which he previously ran is in a dire state. and if you spin the wheel and point at a scottish policy, scottish devolved area, you're very likely going to find it in severe difficulty. it's not a legacy to be particularly proud
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of, i'm sorry to say. >> okay, superb stuff. thanks for joining us as ever. it's forjoining us as ever. it's a pleasure to have your company. and that's alastair stewart, columnist at the scotsman. well, let's flip back now to our studio in westminster, and i'm joined by our political correspondents, katherine forster, catherine, is it just me or is everywhere in british politics at the moment? utter chaos north of the border. chaos northern ireland chaos. the chaos on the border between ireland and britain, the united kingdom and chaos in wales. are we defined by this new area of just total bedlam in politics? domestically? >> it is quite incredible, isn't it? we've all been talking for weeks about, you know, rumblings within the conservative party. could they try after the local elections on thursday to take the prime minister out ? little the prime minister out? little did we think that the scottish national party, that the leader, the first minister, would be gone , they'd be searching around gone, they'd be searching around for another. you mentioned northern ireland. of course. we've now got the incredible situation of sir jeffrey
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donaldson, a you know, a giant of northern irish politics leader of the dup, former leader of the dup. i should say, being charged with rape. another very serious allegations, along with his wife and over in wales , the his wife and over in wales, the very new welsh labour first minister, vaughan gething, there's all sorts of questions there. about £200,000 donation that he took from a firm tied to a man that had twice been convicted of environmental offences. plaid cymru are calling for investigation. welsh conservatives calling for an investigation . even some welsh investigation. even some welsh labour mps very , very unhappy. labour mps very, very unhappy. so wherever you look across all four corners of the united kingdom, there is , quite a kingdom, there is, quite a chaotic picture. >> and talking of which , we had >> and talking of which, we had a spectacular defection which has been lost. rishi sunak is probably quite glad that bad news for the conservative party has been lost with the humza
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yousaf chaos, dan poulter , who's yousaf chaos, dan poulter, who's defected to the labour party from the conservative party, the mp for central suffolk and north ipswich. he said over chaos within the nhs, keir starmer would be trying to parade him around today but that's got lost in the wash. but again, yet more trouble for rishi sunak. yes rishi sunak had a really great week. >> i mean , i use that word >> i mean, i use that word advisedly, given that 20 points behind in the polls. but, you know, he had a few really good days. the welfare announcements, rwanda , the big, increase in rwanda, the big, increase in defence spending. and then on saturday night, this bombshell announcement that this conservative mp was going to cross the floor to labour. now, of course, we had christian wakeford did that a couple of years ago. that was back in the time of boris johnson and partygate. more recently, we had lee anderson, former, you know, chair of the conservative party, go over to reform on the other side. so, you know, that's three
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rishi sunak in the middle trying to get his message out that they are getting on with the job. but no, not a good look. and i suspect that number 10 will be really very happy indeed that all this drama north of the border is pulling focus away from that. >> do you think this tells us something ? i've been hearing something? i've been hearing from a lot of gb news viewers, and it would have been unthinkable historically for a conservative to defect to the labour party . but are they labour party. but are they basically the same party now? there's not a great deal of difference between them to, to go from red from blue to red. actually, they have pretty much the same policies and more or less everything. >> well, a lot of people have certainly thought that for a while. and that's one of the reasons why quite a lot of people are going over to reform, thinking that reform are offering something didn't at all, i would say is that i think in the last week or so, it has become easier to start to see like proper dividing lines on welfare. the conservatives are going to have a big crackdown . going to have a big crackdown. labour haven't said how they'll
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respond on rwanda . we know that respond on rwanda. we know that well, we don't know the flights are going to go off. the conservatives say that they will, you know, labour have said that they will scrap that plan even if it succeeds , so those even if it succeeds, so those and then the defence spending, the, the labour have said, oh well we would like to match it if and when we're able to. whereas the conservatives have made a firm commitment. so i think we are seeing points of difference now that we haven't been seeing before, but certainly , dan poulter. yeah. certainly, dan poulter. yeah. saying that, you know, he works as an nhs doctor. so he got to a point that he couldn't look his constituents and colleagues in the eye. superb katherine forster great as ever. >> and viewers there would have seen pictures of sir keir starmer walking around with dan poulter pointing, probably saying where are the journalists 7 saying where are the journalists ? the journalists are all, documenting the spectacular downfall of humza yousaf. look, there was sir keir starmer. look, where are the journalists? i'm afraid they're all in edinburgh . thank you catherine. edinburgh. thank you catherine. excellent as ever. we'll have loads more on that story throughout the show of course,
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welcome back. it's 324. i'm martin daubney , and this is gb martin daubney, and this is gb news. now, the row over returning migrants to the uk from ireland is gathering pace . from ireland is gathering pace. and last week saw some violent protests against the rising number of asylum seekers there. you can see pictures on your screen now . and that was a site screen now. and that was a site about an hour south of dublin that was firebombed by locals. and the irish government announced emergency laws to return them to the uk, saying the increasing numbers were down to rishi sunak rwanda plan. but the uk government has indicated that it won't accept any returns until eu wide asylum rules are changed. well, i'm delighted to say i'm now joined by herman kelly, who's the president of the irish freedom party. herman, welcome to the show . how are you welcome to the show. how are you doing, mate? hello, martin. yes, we can hear you . fantastic. we can hear you. fantastic. lovely. now, i know you've got a lot to say on this topic. it seems to me astonishing that the irish politicians are blaming rishi sunak . they're blaming rishi sunak. they're blaming rwanda. herman, is it simply a
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case of them failing to take control of irish borders ? control of irish borders? >> helen mcentee, the justice minister, was cross—examined in an irish parliamentary committee dunng an irish parliamentary committee during the week. it basically came out that ireland has no functioning, deportation system. so once any migrant or asylum seeker comes into ireland, they are virtually guaranteed that they won't be deported again. both countries have a major problem. both countries have very generous non—contributory welfare systems where people come in from all over the world very often with we don't know their name , we don't know their their name, we don't know their country of origin, even their criminal record. but they get very generous. they get housing, welfare, medical care, and yet there's no deportation. so both problems , both countries have a problems, both countries have a major problem. but do you know what? where does the border begin? is it a down the irish sea? is it within ireland itself , or should we actually turn our
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attention to france because as for ireland, the vast majority of migrants coming to ireland actually come as eu and come completely legally through eu open borders. so like i believe the whole thing about asylum seekers and ireland is overplayed by the press who want to talk about illegal immigration, while our major problem is actually legal immigration. >> yeah. and herman, we saw last week there was another site about an hour's drive south of dubun about an hour's drive south of dublin that was firebombed by locals. nobody was in that site, of course, but herman , we've of course, but herman, we've seen the garda, the police deployed in quite brutal ways against civilians, a lot of whom are being called far right or racist for simply standing up for what they believe is their right to defend their country and their borders . and their borders. >> they're not extreme at all. this is mainstream public opinion. during the week, there was an opinion poll in the irish daily mail that 79% of the irish people have had enough of
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immigration. it is the mainstream position to oppose this open borders we have with the rest of the world and what has happened is this incompetent justice minister helen mcentee, with the help of drew harris, has politicised the police service and basically the irish police baton charged and pepper sprayed irish civilians. basically irish mammies who are very concerned about the safety of their communities. very concerned about the safety of their communities . and you of their communities. and you know what? the vast majority of irish people have had enough of eu open borders and mass immigration and herman kelly, we saw ursula von der leyen and the european commission president, astonishingly, today saying that the eu should look at a rwanda style agreement. >> is this the same thing in ireland? politicians finally talking tough on asylum, on immigration, when they're the ones that chose open borders, they're the ones that buried their heads in the sands , and their heads in the sands, and they're the ones who are responsible. >> well , it's lack of political >> well, it's lack of political will in ireland itself to stop,
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to stop immigration. now, greece did it. now 2015,1 to stop immigration. now, greece did it. now 2015, 1 million asylum seekers went to greece . asylum seekers went to greece. now this year it's 15,000. so if there's a political will to stop immigration, it can be done . but immigration, it can be done. but in ireland, incredibly, the justice minister, helen mcentee , justice minister, helen mcentee, against public opinion, is looking to opt in to this eu migration pact and that will bnng migration pact and that will bring a huge number, an additional number of people and expense onto ireland. so we believe it's madness. and the irish freedom party completely opposed opting into this eu migration pact. >> okay. herman kelly, the president of the irish freedom party, an absolute pleasure to talk to you, my friend. as ever. thanks for joining talk to you, my friend. as ever. thanks forjoining us. thanks for joining us. >> now sounding good, martin. >> now sounding good, martin. >> cheers, mate. thank you. now let's cross to our northern ireland reporter, dougie beattie, who joins us. dougie welcome to the show. dougie. when i spoke to you earlier this morning , you pointed out in no morning, you pointed out in no uncertain terms this has been talked about for years and years
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and years. this is not a new thing. and now the politicians are trying in ireland are trying to blame the politicians in the uk . in actual fact, they should uk. in actual fact, they should take control of their own borders. it's their responsibility, is it not? >> correct. i mean, i'm standing nigh on the irish border. >> this is northern ireland, great britain that i'm standing in now. >> just in front of me there is the river fleury , that is the the river fleury, that is the repubuc the river fleury, that is the republic of ireland, not five feet away from me. and of course, there's not a border post to be seen now during the brexit negotiations , barnier and brexit negotiations, barnier and tusk played tough with britain and leo varadkar at that stage of the game was offered an electronic border, a smart border in ireland, and he said it was unicorn politics and it was unicorn thinking and it would never happen. now of course we have been on this for the last two years. in fact, i was in, the east wall in finglas and ballymun saying about the
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number of immigrants that have went into ireland. now nobody thought that britain would come up with a rwanda deal and that immigrants would then move from this side of the border to the repubuc this side of the border to the republic of ireland. and the repubuc republic of ireland. and the republic of ireland. and the republic of ireland. and the republic of ireland is a beautiful country. and i spent the weekend down there in newtownmountkennedy and newtownmountkennedy and newtownmountkennedy . the average newtownmountkennedy. the average house price is about ,300,000. there's houses there for 5.2 million, and they wanted to put in place an old convent and convert it into a place for immigrants, young men that are currently lining the streets of dubun currently lining the streets of dublin into wicklow . and of dublin into wicklow. and of course, the locals totally resisted. and we're not talking these are not working class people. and they had a peaceful protest for six weeks. but on friday, friday morning, the garda siochana came in very heavy handed. and that is what has actually sparked the irish government to start talking tough on immigration, because these people would have been
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finagled gael fianna fail voters and it has woken them up to the very fact that these liberal people actually clapped gb news in. they talked to us, they told us how much we were welcomed there. it was quite amazing. >> dougie beattie absolutely fantastic stuff from the irish border. they're always an absolute delight to talk to you. that was . brilliant. there's that was. brilliant. there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00, including. the government wants to give people on disability benefits vouchers instead of cash. is that a fair deal? but first, it's time for your latest news headlines. and it's ray addison. >> thanks, martin. >> thanks, martin. >> 332. exactly. our top story a leadership contest will be launched in scotland after the first minister announced his resignation. humza yousafs admitted he underestimated the level of upset that he would cause by cutting political ties with the greens . he's also
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with the greens. he's also stepping down as leader of the snp , but will continue in that snp, but will continue in that post until a replacement is found. >> mr yousaf says he's quitting to help repair relationships across the political divide. >> i could never have dreamt that one day i would have the privilege of leading my country. people who looked like me were not in positions of political influence , let alone leading influence, let alone leading governments. when i was younger. but we now live in a uk that has a british hindu prime minister, a british hindu prime minister, a muslim mayor of london, a black welsh first minister and for a little while longer, the scottish first minister of this country. so for those who decry that multiculturalism has failed across the uk, i would suggest that the evidence is quite to the contrary . the contrary. >> two men have been charged with murder after a torso was found in a nature reserve in salford, greater manchester police believe that human remains that are three other locations belong to the same victim. >> a man in his 60s. the initial
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discovery was made by a member of the public at kersal dale wetlands more than three weeks ago. a man has admitted killing ago. a man has admitted killing a pensioner on a mobility scooter in west london, just five days after being released from prison. 45 year old lee bowyer stabbed 87 year old thomas o'halloran in the neck and chest in what was described as a motiveless attack in august 2022 by a denied murder, but pleaded guilty to manslaughter by diminished responsibility . by diminished responsibility. and campaigners are outside parliament as mps prepare to debate whether assisted dying should be legalised for the terminally ill after more than 200,000 people signed a petition backed by dame esther ransome, who has stage four lung cancer. those who oppose a change in the law say vulnerable people could be pressured into ending their lives well. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb
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i >> welcome back. the time is 339, and i'm martin daubney. >> welcome back. the time is 339, and i'm martin daubney . and 339, and i'm martin daubney. and this is gb news. now the government is set to overhaul disability benefits, which, with millions facing the biggest welfare reform in a generation and those who suffer from depression and anxiety could lose cash handouts in favour of talking therapies and social care packages. while the work and pensions secretary, mel
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stride, spoke to us earlier poorly targeting those who need the help most, one of the concerns i have, for example, are there are those with progressive of lifelong conditions where currently we know, sadly, people will not be getting better through time and yet they're having to go through reassessments, jump through bureaucratic hoops, and so on. >> and i want to really look at whether that's appropriate. and we can't do things better. i want to look at best practice into nationally, and i want to look at the nature of the support that's actually provided . should it be cash benefits, or should we also be looking, for example , at health care support example, at health care support for those, particularly those that are on pip through reasons of mental health conditions? >> so is this the right way to go? joining me now is the director of policy research and impact at the trussell trust. and it's helen barnard. helen, welcome millom to the show. thank you for joining welcome millom to the show. thank you forjoining us. so at current we have an astronomical welfare disability . bill £69
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welfare disability. bill £69 billion per year, 4.2 million individuals on disability or health care benefits. and that's an increase of a million since 2019. anybody would agree this is financially unsustainable . is financially unsustainable. well, the question today, though, helen, is this the right way to go about it? >> well, i think we would start from looking at when we look at the food banks that we support across the country, about 7 in 10 people referred to trussell trust. food banks are disabled . trust. food banks are disabled. and we know that around a quarter of disabled people are on such low incomes that they are facing hunger. on such low incomes that they are facing hunger . they're not are facing hunger. they're not able to afford the essentials. so i think that should be the starting point for how we reform the system, because it is clearly failing to protect disabled people from , you know, disabled people from, you know, incredibly severe hardship. and we know that kind of hardship makes people iller less able to get work, less able to engage in other activities. so we need to start at that root problem rather than starting off by
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thinking, how do we cut the bill? because making people poorer is going to make them more ill and less able to work. it's not going to address the concerns that the secretary of state raised , but it may state raised, but it may address, for example, the issue of benefit fraud, £6.4 billion last year was the expenditure over paye due to fraud. >> so can we explore the idea of giving stamps, food stamps or stamps? vouchers that can specifically be spent on things rather than giving cash handouts? because of course, the subplot is that money might be spent on more nefarious things . spent on more nefarious things. you know, cigarettes, booze, for example, is vouchers is an answer. if you need help, great. but here's a voucher which you can only spend on something you actually need, rather than frittering it away on something else, perhaps. >> well, i think we need to be very careful here. so the fraud that we see in the system is very, very small compared to, for instance, tax avoidance and the fraud that we're seeing in the fraud that we're seeing in
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the stats are actually about organised criminal gangs who have been defrauding universal credit. there is no suggestion that there are large numbers of disabled people who are defrauding the system . so defrauding the system. so i think we need to be very, very careful about trying to make accusations like that. i think the other thing is that when you look at how people spend their benefits, people are grown ups. they spend their benefits on the stuff they need . they spend them stuff they need. they spend them on bills, on rent, on food , on on bills, on rent, on food, on running medical equipment, and the idea that you would want to create some new system of vouchers, which would be expensive, cumbersome, and it's been tried many times before . been tried many times before. and what you find is that a it's dehumanising, disabled people have the right to an income that they can use to lead a dignified life, just like you or i would, but also , it's incredibly hard but also, it's incredibly hard to design a voucher system that you can use the vouchers at the lowest cost shops. that's why it's never worked. there is no evidence people spend their money on anything other than what they really need. the
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problem is they don't have enough to cover the basic bills and food and other essentials. so we've had people who are literally turning off life saving medical equipment because they can't afford their energy bills. now, that is unacceptable in any civilised society, and it does not deliver any of the government's aims. it just makes people more unwell and less able to work, if they can, to care for others, to take part in society in the way everybody should be able to. >> and of course, helen, we have seen for example, in the united states, when food stamps are given out and food stamps can become a currency in their own right, and actually they're far devalued. so $100 of food stamps might have a $50 street value, which can be traded for other things. so even when it has been tried hasn't always worked. >> i mean, yeah, it just creates a whole new currency and it's completely unnecessary . and i completely unnecessary. and i think we need to. the other thing we need to say that's not being said enough. so one of the main benefits, personal independence payments , the independence payments, the government is talking about
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reforming them. now that is not an out of work benefit. that's a benefit to enable any disabled person to meet the extra costs of disability. many people use it actually to pay for things like accessible transport to get them to work. that is an incredibly hard benefit to get access to. it's a 50 page form. you have to add in other kinds of evidence, 82% of people have to have an independent assessment . it takes months to assessment. it takes months to get access to that benefit in the meantime, people can't get to work, can't pay the bills . so to work, can't pay the bills. so the bar is incredibly high for these disability benefits. we need to be enabling people to get faster access to them, not putting up even more barriers that just prevent people taking part in society in the way they should. >> okay, helen barnard, thank you for joining >> okay, helen barnard, thank you forjoining us and giving that impassioned monologue there. superb stuff. director of policy research and impact at the trussell trust, helen bonnan the trussell trust, helen bonnar, thank you so much . now, bonnar, thank you so much. now, still to come this hour, if it's good enough for ursula von der
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leon, the european commission president, then it's good enough for us and we'll find out why the eu chief is following in britain's rwanda style footsteps. you couldn't make it up. she's turning into a mini nigel farage. this is martin daubney on gb news, britain's
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welcome back. it's 348. i'm martin daubney , and 348. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now i'm joined in the studio by political commentator emma webb. and aukus gb news presenter. did a great job. and also the broadcast journalist giuditta da silva and let's start by getting your reaction to the big news of the day . humza reaction to the big news of the day. humza yousaf has quit, despite saying on friday he will fight on. that fight lasted 48 hours. emma will he be missed? >> bon voyage alvida shin bet i think many people will be very glad to see the back of him, and particularly after the whole debacle over the hate crime legislation in scotland and then
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his run in with jk rowling. i think he's been absolutely terrible for scotland , and i terrible for scotland, and i think it can only be good news that he's stepping down. i'm sure that there are worse people who could step in to take his place, but, i think it's i think it's good news. surprisingly good news. judyta. >> so. so i've got two female panellists. excellent. can i ask you both , as women, you're not you both, as women, you're not misgendering your. no no no no. right. can i ask you. because as blokes often talk about the fact i'm really offended, i know i've misgendered double check. know what i'm saying? is constantly this debate is women's rights or being eroded. and, you know, humza yousaf was driving this legislation which gave trans people in many people's eyes, preferential treatment. the isla bryson case, where a biological male rapist was allowed into jails where women were, is this this , this appropriation of this, this appropriation of trans rights at the expense of women's rights, hopefully. is this a defining moment where
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that might start to end, i think what has happened was with humza yousaf, what he. >> when nicola sturgeon talked about continuity, it also made struck a particular chord with having someone just optically who looked like him in that position . position. >> so what it was doing is that he was kind of, i believe, in my humble opinion, he was trying to start a legacy of having a person in power that represents marginalised voices. unfortunately, he was too zealous in his approach to actually affecting for change them. in the case of women's rights, i do believe that like what i've said before, there has to be a flash point in the move towards progress. you have to have that moment where everybody comes to a head and forces a conversation. i do agree that women's rights are being compromised in a pursuit of a kind of progress. but as they say, one person's comfort ends when the next person's discomfort begins. and that's where the conversation has to happen. i think with trans voices, they felt that they've been so ignored they almost have to yield, to yell, to be heard just a little bit. again, with jk rowling even i've always said
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what she said was inflammatory, but the motivation behind it was designed to make people listen because she comes from a place of lived experience that has a lot of trauma in it, and she saw red flags. she's too intelligent to be that cavalier with her discourse. she did it on purpose. but again , what she purpose. but again, what she did, like the trans side, is force. a conversation , and she force. a conversation, and she may have helped force resignation. >> so let's move on to our next story. now. i love the smell of hypocrisy, especially when it's in brussels. and i was astonished this morning. actually, i wasn't , ursula von actually, i wasn't, ursula von der leyen, the european commission president, is the in control of the biggest party in the eu, the european people's party, in 2020, she said migration has been a fact for europe and always will be over the centuries. it's defined as it's enriches. and now she's done a spectacular u—turn . what done a spectacular u—turn. what has she done? >> so much news today to make us smile , martin? well, her own smile, martin? well, her own party are now talking about doing a rwanda style deal. in their manifesto . so talking their manifesto. so talking about making third parties safe
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to send migrants to where they can be processed in exactly the same way as we've been proposing to do with the rwanda plan . and to do with the rwanda plan. and obviously, the echr had an issue with our intentions to do that. now, the european union may be doing the same thing. so again , doing the same thing. so again, following the comments by ireland over which obviously shows actually that the rwanda plan is working as a deterrent, remarkably, because people are fleeing from northern ireland to the republic of ireland in order to escape being sent potentially to escape being sent potentially to rwanda , so the fact that they to rwanda, so the fact that they now are talking about wanting to send migrants back to, to the united kingdom, but if they were to do that, then they would face exactly the same problems as we faced, sending them back to france. and so we can then say to ireland, well, okay, if the european union wants to send migrants back to the united kingdom, then the european union needs to let us send those migrants back to france. so all around this is a real checkmate
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for rishi sunak. around this is a real checkmate for rishi sunak . and actually for rishi sunak. and actually it's quite good news. the head of the, ahead of the local elections. >> great stuff. and also is this a good thing or a cynical thing for von der leyen to have done? because there's a massive backlash across the 27 member states. there are elections coming up and open borders is proving to be electorally, electorally suicidal. is that why she's doing it? >> yes. again it's preservation of power. and also it's like a survival technique, but also i think it's inadvertently, inadvertently provides commentary on brexit because what you have is the entire european banks suffering the same problem and reaching to reaching a point where they know a solution is needed. but like they say, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. you're all facing the same problem and unified. you could find a collective solution, but the uk is on the outside, so that's how they can afford to be flagrant about a hypocritical move. but letting the uk know because you no longer enjoy the privilege of those relationships , we can make those relationships, we can make a move that flies in the face of what you're doing and not face the same consequence. >> and very quickly, if we
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could. emma, do you think this is just totally hypocrisy from von der elianne? yes there we go. that was very quick. i did say very quick that certainly was. thank you very much, judith and emma. see you again in the next hour. great. i love having a panel. i may have said that before now. coming up next, what will humza yousafs resignation mean for our prime minister? as tory rebels plots a 100 day blitz to topple rishi sunak? plus, there's a big debate in the commons in the next half an hour on assisted dying after de—man to ransoms. campaigned gained more than 200,000 signatures. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel. but first, it's your weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> afternoon. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news, an east west split with the weather again tomorrow, it will feel a
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bit warmer in many eastern areas, but again further west. just like today, the low pressure will dominate and there will be further outbreaks of rain. this weather front has made for quite a damp day over parts of wales. that rain now extending up across northern scotland. some heavy showers for northern ireland for a while. it should turn drier here through this evening. drying up in southern scotland , staying dry southern scotland, staying dry across east anglia and the southeast, but further rain at times over the midlands, parts of wales and the southwest of england too, where it stays cloudy. temperatures likely to stay up eight nine, maybe ten degrees celsius. even with some clearer spells . not particularly clearer spells. not particularly chilly, certainly a much milder night than recently across scotland, maybe 5 or 6 through some sheltered glens. generally, though, a lot of cloud around on tuesday morning, some heavier rain again for northern ireland and parts of wales, particularly pembrokeshire. early on, and then devon and cornwall too. but a much brighter day for northwest england. plenty of sunshine right across northern england , the midlands, east england, the midlands, east anglia and the south east and here really will feel quite a bit warmer than it has done for
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gb news. >> a very good afternoon to you and i hope you're having a very happy monday. it's 4 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. and we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk. on today's show, what now for scotland? after the resignation of humza yousaf as first minister, was he broke
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before going woke? who will be the next leader ? we'll get the next leader? we'll get reaction and analysis throughout the remainder of the show, and the remainder of the show, and the growing dispute over who should look after the increasing numbers of asylum seekers in ireland. while the uk says it won't accept any returns of those who've travelled there until eu law is changed so we can send ours back to france, we've got a borderline face off. next up, the debate over assisted dying is in the commons today after a campaign by dame esther rantzen. we'll be speaking to someone shortly who has sat on both sides of this fence. an astonishing story. you're not want to miss it. and we have this. the incredible footage showing how machete wielding thug is locked inside a shop by its owner during an attempted armed robbery. very, very quick thinking by the shop owner. we'll have a full inside story on that coming up in your next hour . welcome to the show.
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next hour. welcome to the show. always an absolute delight to have your company so that foot is there of that armed thug with the machete in broad daylight inside a shop, brazenly robbing the shop owner who just quick thinking, quick thought and look goes outside. look, shuts the door , locks him inside so he door, locks him inside so he can't get out. not only for his own safety, but probably hoping the police might come while he's still in there. look it's pulling the door open, trying to chop the shopkeeper's arm off. absolute disgrace. the state of this country , these thugs going this country, these thugs going around with machetes in broad daylight . what can we do to stop daylight. what can we do to stop the bedlam on our streets? we have a full discussion on that. get in touch. and there's a new way of doing so. go to gb news. com forward slash your say you'll see my face. drop a comment and i'll reply before
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the end of the show. but first it's the end of the show. but first wsfime the end of the show. but first it's time for your latest news headunes it's time for your latest news headlines with ray addison . headlines with ray addison. >> thanks, martin. good afternoon. 4:02. our top stories this hour. the snp will hold a leadership contest after the scottish first minister announced his resignation earlier , humza yousaf admitted earlier, humza yousaf admitted that he underestimated the level of upset he would cause by cutting political ties with the greens. he will now continue in his post until a replacement is found. mr yousaf says he's quitting to help repair relationships across the political divide . political divide. >> i bear no ill will and certainly bear no grudge against anyone. politics can be a brutal business. it takes its toll on your physical and mental health. your family suffer alongside you. i am in absolute debt to my wonderful wife , my beautiful wonderful wife, my beautiful children and my wider family for
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putting up with me over the years. i'm afraid you will be seeing a lot more of me, from how. >> now. >> well , the race to replace >> well, the race to replace humza yousaf starts now. former deputy first minister john swinney says he's considering it carefully . carefully. >> i've got lots of things to think about and there's the whole question of my, my family and i have to make sure that i do the right thing by my family. they're precious to me . i have they're precious to me. i have to do the right thing by my party and by my country. so there's lots to be thought about, and i'll give all of that consideration in the days to come. >> two men are due to appear in court charged with murder after a torso was found at a nature reserve in salford . greater reserve in salford. greater manchester police believes human remains at three other locations belong to the same victim , belong to the same victim, thought to be a man in his 60s. the initial discovery was made by a member of the public at kersal dale wetlands, three and a half weeks ago . a man has a half weeks ago. a man has admitted killing a pensioner who was on a mobility scooter in
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west london. 87 year old thomas o'halloran was stabbed in the neck and chest in august 2022. lee bowyer committed what was described as a motiveless attack five days after being released from prison. he denied murder but pleaded guilty to manslaughter by diminished responsibility. dozens of migrants have been rescued from the channel after their small boat got into difficulties off the french coast. it's understood a number of people were pulled from the water and taken to the port at calais. the latest rescue operation comes after senior border force officials raised concerns that people in small boats are using children as human shields to evade police. last week, over 900 migrants crossed to the uk . 900 migrants crossed to the uk. a debate on whether assisted dying should be legalised for terminally ill people is being held this afternoon. earlier on, campaigners gathered outside of
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parliament calling for change. assisted suicide is currently bannedin assisted suicide is currently banned in england, wales and northern ireland. in scotland, it's not a specific criminal offence, but those who help others to end their own lives risk being charged with murder. opponents say vulnerable people could be pressured into taking their own lives . new laws their own lives. new laws protecting consumers from hacking and cyber attacks are now in force, with all smart devices required to meet minimum security standards . security standards. manufacturers of products like phones, tvs and smart doorbells are now legally required to protect internet connected devices against criminal access. common passwords like 1234, five are being banned in the uk as part of a world first legislation, and users will be prompted to change them. and we're being warned to brace ourselves for even more food price rises, with beer, biscuits and bread among items expected to jump. the wet weather means
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that harvests of barley and wheat could be down by as much as a fifth. storms and flooding throughout the last few months have forced british farmers to constantly delay sowing crops. the warning comes just as food pnces the warning comes just as food prices are beginning to fall following soaring inflation sparked by the global gas price crisis . for the latest stories, crisis. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common shirts back now to . martin. shirts back now to. martin. >> thank you ray. well, we kick off this hour, of course, with the massive news this monday afternoon . the scottish national afternoon. the scottish national party leader humza yousaf has sensationally quit, triggering a search for his successor and new first minister. and the first minister made a statement at bute house earlier on at midday. and let's take a little listen included that repairing our relationship across the
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political divide can only be done with someone else at the helm . well, members of the helm. well, members of the scottish parliament now have to back a replacement in that post within 28 days, and we'll go live to edinburgh with our scotland reporter, tony maguire. tony, welcome to the show. so on friday when we spoke, humza yousaf vowed to fight on. today the fight dwindled. he stepped down. the big question is what's next for scotland? who's next? as the first minister? do we think ? think? >> it's always funny how in a situations like this, you know, a lot of people obviously are sad to see humza yousaf go. the conversation almost immediately turns on to runners and riders who will be next to replace him. and sure enough, we heard from nicola sturgeon's deputy first deputy first minister john swinney earlier he wouldn't commit , but swinney earlier he wouldn't commit, but he did say he was going to give the role consideration . we've also seen
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consideration. we've also seen quite an active account from kate forbes today and there are other names in contention, including neil grey. and of course, i think a lot of people would like to see angus robertson throw his name in the ring. but of course he wasn't in the mood that the last time. quite a lot of reaction as well so far in the last couple of hours. anas sarwar he's been speaking to reporters in glasgow and, you know, he is dead set on wanting this scottish election. in fact, he put out a press release over a year ago now to say that scottish labour was election ready and douglas ross in the meantime, he says that scottish conservatives will they've done their job and they've done theirjob and providing a solid opposition for the scottish nationalists. and indeed he is determined to continue playing that role. we've also heard from nicola sturgeon, who said that humza conducted himself with grace, dignity and integrity and of course . shona robison, humza
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course. shona robison, humza yousafs, deputy first minister well, she said that humza yousaf has been a pioneer, but fma enough of the political elites have also been speaking to people here in edinburgh. in fact, people who bothered enough about this to turn up either at bute house or here at holyrood, let's listen to what they had to say . how do you take the news say. how do you take the news this morning? >> oh, it's brilliant news. i obe get our country back and stop these . the speech laws. stop these. the speech laws. hate speech. >> i really feel that he's been manoeuvred into a situation which doesn't account for, the good, humane man that he is. >> bad situation for humza and it's bad for scotland. >> i think it's a very good thing. >> scotland needs a firm minister. >> and take the country forward. >> and take the country forward. >> certainly the snp have been leading in a ragley road for the last seven, eight years. >> i didn't say that greens betrayed us because we, when they had their challenge, we
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supported them . supported them. >> the parliament, the tories and the labour. >> all they can think of is grievance. grievance >> well, there we go. our raggedy road . i mean, what raggedy road. i mean, what better describes humza yousafs 13 months as first minister here? he was the continuity candidate of nicola sturgeon as john swinney, going to be the continuity candidate for humza yousaf . and is that really the yousaf. and is that really the best way for the scottish national party to stick the road in for the next two years and to stay even as a minority government? as scotland's leading party? it's too early to say, but this today definitely starts this next snp leadership race. it's almost becoming an annual event at this point, martin tony mcguire. >> there didn't seem to be much love lost there for humza yousaf on the streets of edinburgh early on. thanks for joining on the streets of edinburgh early on. thanks forjoining us early on. thanks for joining us as ever, live from edinburgh. now we can speak to the former member of scottish parliament and member of the european
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parliament, brian monteith. brian, welcome to the show. always a delight to have you on. no doubt you'll be doing the highland fling this morning, you wrote an excellent column in the scotsman , predicting the demise scotsman, predicting the demise of humza yousaf. has it come even sooner than you thought it would happen , though, brian? would happen, though, brian? >> well, it probably has , and >> well, it probably has, and not quite. >> maybe in the way i would have expected, i thought he would be able to try and hang on to at least go down fighting , but, least go down fighting, but, it's quite clear that the men in grey kilts , behind the scenes, grey kilts, behind the scenes, have made it plain that, he couldn't he couldn't win the vote, and therefore he should do the honourable thing , and the honourable thing, and resign. but of course, he hasn't resigned. he's intimated he will resign. and that actually creates a problem in as much as it delays any possible , general it delays any possible, general election in scotland for holyrood , if they can't find holyrood, if they can't find a
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replacement, holyrood, if they can't find a replacement , that has to be replacement, that has to be agreed within 28 days from resignation . but he hasn't resignation. but he hasn't technically, as far as i can see, handed the notice in yet . see, handed the notice in yet. >> brian, what you were saying in your scotsman column was that the bigger threat in many ways was the vote of no confidence in the entire snp administration forcing a general election, which no doubt the conservatives the labour party and the greens would be able to make hay out. do you think that may in part explain why humza yousaf has fallen so quickly on his sword? to try and save the party from election? >> well, i think, facing the electorate is really what this is about , electorate is really what this is about, both for the opposition parties who for different reasons amongst them, would like to, have a holyrood election, and the snp, who would like to avoid one and, and so their trick is to say we'll find a replacement for, mr, yousaf.
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but he'll still be there while we do that. well, it's not really for them, i believe, to set the process , he's announced set the process, he's announced he will resign. well, he should resign immediately with immediate effect. and the clock should start ticking , so that if should start ticking, so that if they cannot get agreement , there they cannot get agreement, there would be an election, within 28 days from that point. >> superb surf. always a delight to talk to you. brian monteith, former msp and mep and superb columnist in the scotsman. thanks for joining columnist in the scotsman. thanks forjoining us on the thanks for joining us on the show. and i'm joined now in our studio by our political editor, chris hope. chris, you've come in rather breathless. thank you for dashing in to get into the show. always a delight to have you talk about, a fast pace on friday humza yousaf saying i will fight on now the fight's gone. he's fallen on his sword. a week is a long time in politics. a weekend was too much for yousaf, it seems that way. >> i mean, and right now it's. what's the future for this administration? yeah, john swinney , the grand old man of swinney, the grand old man of the party, deputy first minister from 2014 2023 under nicola sturgeon. of course , leader in
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sturgeon. of course, leader in opposition, 2000 2004. he did think he had said so. my time at the top of this of scottish politics has gone away. and yet suddenly a crisis presents an opportunity. he said this this afternoon, that he is, he is thinking he'll have more to say in coming weeks. i'm giving the issue very active consideration, he says. it's likely i'll have more to say about that in coming days. whether he'd replace humza yousaf, but i think there'll be books written about how on earth the squander power, and he forced out the greens from this , forced out the greens from this, this coalition and had no idea they were the side with the opposing opposing parties and forced him out. and he's left going cap in hand to alex salmond, the person who just couldn't bear nicola sturgeon in the alba party. >> so extraordinary astonishes of what was really interesting there. tony mcguire spoke to a bunch of people on the streets. the voters, the public, the people who matter were the people's channel. and what i was struck by was a total dissatisfaction with the entire political agenda . one of them political agenda. one of them even almost sound like lee
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anderson. he said, brilliant. we'll get our country back. another said, we've become a country obsessed with grievance. do you think or do you hope chris hope, that humza yousaf go might spell an end to this obsession with identity politics, with what people may call woke politics? get back to what people care about crime. the nhs , schools, real politics. the nhs, schools, real politics. and that's what. >> rishi sunak. the prime minister has been saying should happen. now. the snp should go back to what matters . the bread back to what matters. the bread and butter issues, the issues which are devolved to the administration on crime, health, education and the schools system is failing children up in scotland compared to england, where it's where it's advanced. it was the other way around 20 years ago or so i think. yeah, i think there's a feeling that the cast report that came out was showed up. this issue of trans children and the way they're treated by the nhs for what it was . and i think that many felt was. and i think that many felt that the greens, greens had pulled the snp into this place where they're battling with the on these culture wars issues, which many people just don't really care about in the same way as health. the bread and
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butter politics that you describe. i think that's where it might go under john swinney. it might go underjohn swinney. >> well, let's hope we can have a return to common sense. chris always a delight to see you, especially on a monday. now let's quickly move on. we'll have lots more on that story. of course, at 5:00 and there's plenty of coverage on our website gbnews.com. and you've helped to make it the fastest growing national news website in the country. so thank you very much. now, summer is just around the corner. so they keep promising us and we want to make it sizzle for you with an incredible £20,000 in cash up for grabs in the latest great british giveaway, it's our biggest cash prize to date and it could be all of yours. and here's how you could be our winner. >> we've blown the budget by giving you the chance to win a totally terrific £20,000 in tax free cash to make your summer spectacular. you could use that cash to splash out on a holiday, make the garden glam, buy a new car, or just save it for a rainy day. whatever you'd spend
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welcome back. it's 421. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. border force officials have told gb news of concerns jones channel migrants are using children as human shields to stop police puncturing their small boats. it's an astonishing package. and here it is. now from our home security editor, mark white. >> this is a rare look inside the small boats operational command at dover harbour. the small boats operational command at dover harbour . as we command at dover harbour. as we filmed the border force vessel defender was alongside offloading another 66 channel migrants. the latest of more than 7000 who have arrived here. so far this year. and this their mode of transport, large but extremely flimsy inflatable rafts made for the criminal gangsin rafts made for the criminal gangs in back street factories. >> i mean, these aren't
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seaworthy for anything because they are just not made to any standard . standard. >> trevor taylor has seen increasing numbers packed into these vessels . 70 or 80 migrants these vessels. 70 or 80 migrants on each boat is now common. >> it'sjust on each boat is now common. >> it's just it's just not safe. the way it's constructed . and i the way it's constructed. and i mean, this is typical where if there was a cut or a puncture in one part of this boat, the whole thing would go down. >> makeshift puncture repair kits and cheap pumps are often all the migrants have as they battle to stay afloat. and there are very few, if any, effective life jackets . life jackets. >> just show you an example of that. and that's probably not just for a child. they'll probably give that to an adult as well, saying that's going to save you another example just back here is an inner tube . we back here is an inner tube. we quite often see them or they're handed out in a packet to basically if you panic, inflate
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one of those yourself and the engines two are completely unsuitable for the english channel unsuitable for the english channel, lacking power and prone to breaking down. >> you look at the engine, you might think, yeah, that's a proper engine. >> some of you might expect, however, the organised crime groups, they put stickers like this on their c30 to try to trick you into thinking, oh, 30 horsepower. but in reality, it's somewhere between 10 and 15. it's a really not suitable to go on the boat itself , especially on the boat itself, especially at sea. >> the sergeant violence along the french coast is of huge concern to authorities on both sides of the channel staff in dover have seen increasing numbers of migrants arriving with injuries, including stab wounds. >> the violence that is now shown to our french colleagues, trying to prevent the launches, trying to prevent the launches, trying to prevent the launches, trying to save these people from from putting their lives at risk is huge, we've seen them
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attacked with sticks, metal bars, machetes, using women and children that are there to, you know, to , to cross, using them know, to, to cross, using them as human shields to prevent law enforcement taking action. and it's growing. it's getting w0 i'se. woi'se. >> worse. >> this key site here at dover harbour is where the channel migrants first set foot on british soil. of course, if rishi sunak rwanda plan comes to full fruition , then they won't full fruition, then they won't be here for long. many of them will be on a flight to east africa, but those flights are likely still months away. and as weather conditions improve in the weeks ahead, many more of these flimsy migrant boats will arrive in uk waters. unseaworthy and dangerously overloaded. mark whyte, gb news at the small boats operational command in dover. doven >> well, a fantastic package there and i'm now joined by mark white, who did that report.
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mark, welcome to the show. fantastic exclusive. when you get that close and you see the detail, the motors that are woefully underpowered, the children's inflatables you wouldn't even trust in a swimming pool. mark and yet, six days ago, of course, we saw a seven year old girl trampled to death on a boat off the coast of france. and your report now showing this mark is becoming increasingly common. the use of children as human shields. >> well, indeed. and in terms of just how unsafe these boats are once again today , another rescue once again today, another rescue operation, this time off the coast at calais. migrants in the water. they were picked up by rescue services from france and have been returned to calais. we understand there are no casualties related to this particular event, but an indication of just how dangerous it is out there. these these boats in, even the calmest of conditions are liable to be
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inundated and flipped over because of the way in which they're just overloaded . and they're just overloaded. and you're right, this boat last tuesday at 112 people crowded on board there because a large group of african migrants had stormed the boat , forced their stormed the boat, forced their way on, and just added to just how unsafe that vessel was. and i think it's indicative of the growing levels of violence that the authorities in france are facing. you had there in that report about migrants using weapons , including machetes, but weapons, including machetes, but also that worrying development of holding their children up and putting women in front of the police to try to stop the police getting to their boats to puncture them . puncture them. >> yeah. astonishing stuff. i mean, ask the question , who mean, ask the question, who would take their child on a day like that? but even more so , who like that? but even more so, who would use them as a human shield? mark? why a fantastic exclusive. thank you for sharing
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with with us on the show. now, meanwhile, eu chief ursula von der leyen's party has proposed asylum deals with third countries. does that sound familiar ? well, rishi sunak familiar? well, rishi sunak points out, they're following our lead when it comes to the rwanda plan. it comes, of course, after the rwanda bill cleared parliament finally and was granted royal assent last week. well, joining me now to discuss this is human rights lawyer and friend of the show, david. hey, david. welcome to the show and always a delight. i want to talk to you about the fact that the eu has always maintained that immigration enriches the continent. it can only be a good thing. and yet now suddenly, they seem to be in favour of the kind of policy that nigel farage would like . my that nigel farage would like. my question to you is, is it legal for them to do this ? for them to do this? >> good afternoon martin. >> good afternoon martin. >> i think, you know, i think , >> i think, you know, i think, you know, there's a lot of hypocrisy and absurdity that we've seen coming now as, as you well know, coming from ursula von der leyen , i mean, in terms
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von der leyen, i mean, in terms of is it legal for them to do that if they change the laws? i think technically, yes. but you've still got this problem of the european court, which also appues the european court, which also applies there. so we're going to end up in, as i always say , more end up in, as i always say, more and more legal battles. if that's something that they intend to do. and again, i think as you're seeing with with ursula von der leyen, it's about politics. it's about her party winning votes as opposed to whether or not this will actually happen , much like actually happen, much like you're seeing here with rwanda. >> and it's exactly right, david. there are a set of eu elections coming up in june. the populist parties, those on the right set to make huge gains. and so we're seeing basically those from the centre ground, the liberals adopting the policies to try and hold them off. david, if this goes ahead, could we see the astonishing situation where the echr is challenging ursula von der euanne challenging ursula von der elianne over her migration plan? >> absolutely. i think that could be a real prospect if she moved ahead with those plans. we're already seeing what's
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happening in ireland, you know, with we're seeing because of the borders that were there and not in place. so that people going across now, people coming into england getting into into actual ireland from northern ireland easily asylum seekers, ireland saying they're going to send them back. we're saying no you can't. and again we're seeing the spectre of all these cross border battles now, which it's getting more and more absurd. the chaos, as you saw in your earlier report and the desperation of the people is increasing and as you saw from the deputy director of small boats command, she said that it's only getting worse. so i think that's what you're going to see. >> and david, quickly, if you could , how can it be legally could, how can it be legally possible that the republic of ireland can say, right, we're sending back these people to the united kingdom because we don't want them, and yet we can't say, right , we're want them, and yet we can't say, right, we're sending these people back to france because we don't want them . what's the difference? >> well, absolutely. at the moment, they've already said they have to change their law to enable them to do that , but they enable them to do that, but they are saying that they intend to do that. we're saying that you're not going to. and it's
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this battle of laws that you often see in human rights. and you you will see in borders. and the situation we have at the moment with northern ireland and ireland and obviously england coming out of the eu, it's a very, very complex situation that's made even more complex by the increasing desperation of the increasing desperation of the people, for whatever reasons, trying to come across the channel >> okay. david, a human rights lawyer, thank you for joining us.thank lawyer, thank you for joining us. thank you for making some sense of that. always a delight to have you on the show. you take care. there's lots more still to come between now and 5:00, including the debate of assisted dying. and we'll be speaking to someone shortly who has sat on both sides of the fence. an incredible story . you fence. an incredible story. you will not want to miss it, but first, it's time for your headunes first, it's time for your headlines and it's ray addison . headlines and it's ray addison. >> thanks, martin. 4:31, our top stories a leadership contest will be launched in scotland now, after the first minister announced his resignation in humza yousafs admitted he
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underestimated the level of upset that he would cause by cutting political ties with the greens. he's also stepping down as snp leader but will continue in that post until a replacement is found. an emotional mr yousaf said he's quitting to help repair relationships across the political divide. >> i bear no ill will and certainly bear no grudge against anyone. politics can be a brutal business. it takes its toll on your physical and mental health. your family suffer alongside you. i am in absolute debt to my wonderful wife , my beautiful wonderful wife, my beautiful children and my wider family for putting up with me over the years. i'm afraid you will be seeing a lot more of me, from now . how. >> now. >> two men have appeared in court charged with murder after a torso was found in a nature reserve in salford. the 68 and 42 year olds spoke only to confirm their names and dates of
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birth. with the help of polish translators . greater manchester translators. greater manchester police believes human remains at three other locations belonging to the same victim belong rather to the same victim belong rather to the same victim, a man in his 60s. a man has admitted killing a pensioner on a mobility scooter in west london, just five days after being released from prison. 45 year old lee bowyer stabbed 87 year old thomas ohalloran in the neck and chest in what was described as a motiveless attack back in august 2022 by denied murder , but 2022 by denied murder, but pleaded guilty to manslaughter by diminished responsibility. he campaigners have been rallying outside parliament, where mps are debating whether assisted dying should be legalised for the terminally ill after more than 200,000 people signed a petition backed by dame esther ransome, who has stage four lung cancen ransome, who has stage four lung cancer. those who oppose a change in the law fear vulnerable people could be pressured into ending their lives as . for the latest
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i >> welcome back. your time is 437. i'm martin daubney , and 437. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now, campaigners have been outside parliament this afternoon. today, as mps debate whether assisted dying should be legalised for terminally ill people in the uk. for me , it's people in the uk. for me, it's after more than 200,000 signatures were added to a petition backed by dame esther rantzen, who has stage four lung cancen rantzen, who has stage four lung cancer, and those who oppose the change in the law say vulnerable people could be pressured into ending their lives. well, i'm delighted to say that i'm joined in the studio now by someone who has sat on both sides of the fence on this debate, author and campaigner against assisted dying paul carroll . paul,
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dying paul carroll. paul, welcome to the show. fascinating, fascinating story. so tell me why. initially you were in favour of assisted dying. and then why did you change your mind ? change your mind? >> i can take this back about 6 or 7 years. >> i'm 68 now, so that was. i was 62. my partner is actually 15, 16 years younger than was 62. my partner is actually 15,16 years younger than me. >> and being practical people, we were planning wills. we were getting our affairs in order. >> and we said , what about if i >> and we said, what about if i ever became ill with the age gap? >> qap-7 >> it was gap? >> it was that was the inspiration and i said, imagine i'm 80 and you're in your mid 60s and say, i had a chronic illness or or had alzheimer's and wasn't able to recognise you i >> would that be fair on me to expect you to care for me, and because we were in good health, it was a sort of like, yeah , it was a sort of like, yeah, we'll look at dignity. >> and actually joining dignitas is so simple .
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is so simple. >> you could join your local library, as easily. it's just one form and one payment. >> and then what led you to your awakening where you thought, no, this isn't the right thing for me or indeed anybody who i love? >> well, so it was like an insurance policy . insurance policy. >> tick the box, signed up in the drawer if ever needed. so it goes. >> 2 or 3 years we get to, 2019, and the first thing that had happenedis and the first thing that had happened is that my partner's mother, who was 69 at the time , mother, who was 69 at the time, was diagnosed with cancer, which was diagnosed with cancer, which was very distressing for the family, she was treated very, very well, had chemotherapy , very well, had chemotherapy, vie, but unfortunately it didn't work. >> and her decline was very rapid from diagnosis to actually passing 11 months, which is very distressing for us all, and so in some regards , would that in some regards, would that question of assisted death come up at that point?
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>> and the interesting thing is it never did because we did not want her to go. and she did not want her to go. and she did not want to go. >> right. the life force. and it was incredible . was incredible. >> and as a family, we witnessed this shared this right down to the nobody's pretending, you know , assisted or unassisted or know, assisted or unassisted or natural death is anything but traumatic for all involved, but there was a certain there were blessings to be received from that. >> we were there with her on vigil . vigil. >> she was incredibly well looked after to palliative care . looked after to palliative care. and we just we realised actually we've signed up for dignitas and no, we wouldn't. >> this has been rather traumatic , but it's been quite traumatic, but it's been quite wonderful as well, and it helped with the grieving process thereafter. >> and tell me you started to write a book. you did a huge amount of research into dignitas and those many of those who've been through it. what was it about that that started to concern you? >> yes. well it i started on a
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new novel and i was looking and maybe the story came from that. >> and i decided, that this story was going to be about four individuals who had decided in this version of the book, it's slightly in the future in the uk, and legal assisted dying had been legalised. >> so it's all made very, very easy. >> you go to a nice sort of clinic and have a five day stay before the end, so obviously as a writer would, i started researching the ramifications. and to do that , i looked very and to do that, i looked very closely at the countries where assisted dying was already legalised, and what i found rather shocked me, and concerned me . me. >> it was actually very, very easy. or the law had changed so easy. >> and this is the parliamentary debate , which is a non—voting debate, which is a non—voting debate, which is a non—voting debate today. >> but i think there will be an actual, vote of conscience on this in the next parliament. >> the stipulation is that three
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things we will have assisted dying if it's legalised, and it will be for, patients facing, end of life terminal illnesses, who have made their own decision very, very important and who have a very short life expectancy. >> so there are three things, two of which can't actually be really quantified. yes. 2 or 3 doctors might be able to reach a consensus , so, that really consensus, so, that really shocked me. the ease of which the parameters widened as soon as the law came in. >> okay. superb. thank you for joining us, paul carroll, and sharing your story quickly. i believe you've got a book out. >> yes i have, it's called shaking hands with elvis. it's, dark humour, which is ironic in terms of a very serious topic, but it will help any reader to make their own mind up on this subject . subject. >> fascinating. and that debate is going on right now in the commons. we'll bring you news on that as it comes through. paul carroll, thank you so much for
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joining us and sharing your story. thank you. now still to come this hour, beer, bread and biscuits . three of the nation's biscuits. three of the nation's favourite staples certainly mine . they're under fire. we'll find out why next. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel
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welcome back. it's 446. i'm martin daubney. welcome back. it's 446. i'm martin daubney . this is gb i'm martin daubney. this is gb news. now there's a new way to get in touch. gbnews.com forward slash your. say. you'll be getting in touch in your droves. let's go through a few of them now. the ireland border chaos has really got you hot under the collar. mayor says this ireland can threaten us all they want, but if they actually do , then at but if they actually do, then at least that gives us the chance to do the same to france and living that this whole fiasco has set a light under the european union. theresa as this herman kelly, what a guy talking sense. of course, herman kelly is the leader of the irish
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freedom party. he's a good pal of mine. he is a good lad. now quickly on humza yousaf, susan harris says this humza useless bit harsh was a tick box leader. he should never have been first minister. everything he touched turned to dust. that's probably the. that's probably the censored version of that. david whale says this. it's time for a scottish election. ianj says nicola sturgeon for the first minister of scotland, at least, she was impressively entertaining. i think ian there has been slightly cynical and sarcastic. that's what we like on this channel now . i'm joined on this channel now. i'm joined once again in the studio by the political commentator emma webb and the broadcast journalist judha and the broadcast journalist judita de silva. welcome to you both , ladies. now let's start both, ladies. now let's start with the show . the footage we with the show. the footage we showed earlier on, can we get it on that screen again ? now on that screen again? now viewers will see footage of a young bunch of hoodlums went inside a shop. there we go. it's inside a shop. there we go. it's in birmingham, i believe, and one of them looks got a massive machete, trying to get out the
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shop.the machete, trying to get out the shop. the quick thinking shopkeeper went outside and locked him in, probably for his own safety . secondly, maybe he own safety. secondly, maybe he was hoping the police might actually turn up to an event like this and arrest him. we understand they escaped via a back window. there's been one arrest of a 17 year old released on bail, but nevertheless, emma webb, this is a hugely shocking crime. brazen, broad daylight, machete wielding thugs trying to rob an honest to goodness shopkeeper. rob an honest to goodness shopkeeper . absolutely shopkeeper. absolutely disgraceful scenes. what's your take on this crime is completely out of control and everybody's seeing it on social media. >> there are videos every day of, people in the street with machetes fighting each other with machetes, and if you're a shopkeeperin with machetes, and if you're a shopkeeper in particular, i know that we've got lots of problems here in london. and i hear anecdotally, lots of stories from friends and family about, shoplifter ing. it's obviously there's a kind of entropy to
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this that the crimes are not being solved by the police. therefore the crimes get worse. that's just common sense, because people are obviously feeling emboldened that they're going to get away with this kind of behaviour. and before we were on air, martin, you said , why on air, martin, you said, why does somebody why would a young man leave the house with a machete ? well, the answer is machete? well, the answer is obviously because he thinks he can rob a shop and get away with it if he takes a machete and threatens the shopkeeper. so, i mean, bravo to that quick thinking shopkeeper for thinking to lock them into the shop. yeah, but the reality is that it is completely unreasonable that shopkeepers and staff in shops should have to deal with this kind of thing, and this is something that i imagine there will be many, many people either watching today or stories from around the country that don't get covered and can't get covered by the media because it's happening every single day all across the country. >> judy. ta da silva. we see often on this channel. talk to anti—knife campaigners . we speak anti—knife campaigners. we speak to youth workers who work a lot with the black community. and
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they say a thing that chills me to the bone. and that is it's more dangerous to not carry a knife than it is to carry a knife than it is to carry a knife for people in certain areas of britain. now in the inner cities, how do we get to that position , i think first of that position, i think first of all, it's important to know that note, not to laser it down to the black community, because in that video, those two individuals were clearly not black. you could see their hands, you could see parts of their faces, but the people you've spoken to happen to represent that particular demographic. >> but i think and knife crime to be fair, the numbers do back up. not to this specific incident, but the knife crime data in london in particular, and in the west midlands and in big cities, does tend to be, relay the fact that it is more culturally prevalent . inserm. culturally prevalent. inserm. >> that's my only point in ethnic minority communities. there is an issue, but what i would say is that we tend to be focusing on the symptoms as opposed to the root problem. what you have is kind of almost a bermuda triangle, a social bermuda triangle that's happening right now because it's
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notoriety and infamy is a currency for popularity in the social media generation today. so, for instance, with this video, chances are within the community they'll be bragging about what they did and that gives them clout. so you have to kind of deal with this psychology of a disaffected youth who does not have any capabilities beyond doing something that will make him infamous. how do you cure that? that's what you should be focusing on, because, like you said , you'll just be chasing said, you'll just be chasing your tail. they'll be become more emboldened . they are harder more emboldened. they are harder to find. they're the proliferation of it makes the numbers so high you don't have the capacity to remedy it. and so you have to say what motivates you to do it? and how do you redirect that? efforts towards these people feeling they are more they have more of a position in society based on their merit. >> it's cost benefit, isn't it? because there isn't really a cost to them. if they think that they're going to get away with it, at least there's no perceived cost. if they think the police don't bother to solve robberies or thefts or burglaries , and at the same burglaries, and at the same time, they do get this benefit of being able to brag, it being a kind of cultural thing in
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certain areas where they can sort of, well, you i think you said it that they, that they, they brag, they can show off, they brag, they can show off, they can wield their machetes around. and it's a kind of, cultural phenomenon and obviously is going to have something to do with social media because you get all of these people posting on things like tiktok and so on, and maybe they do it just to kind of, i'm going to sound like such a grandma here, but to get the street cred. >> but they have no other outlet because they have no other capabilities or capacity. so you have to when you think of a lot of the youth groups that happen and you talk to the people who run those youth groups, when they talk to these young men, they talk to these young men, they say, i gather from problematic homes, they have nowhere to go, nothing to do. and time. time is toxic when it comes to somebody without the motivation to channel themselves into something productive. >> things have changed. i came from a very working class background. a lot of us didn't have a lot of money. there was quite a lot of trouble, but nobody carried knives. something has changed. knives are now mainstream. they seem to be
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acceptable to the point where, as you say, something to brag about, but at that point you made earlier is what's fundamental. >> if you feel that everyone else is carrying a knife, i have nothing. i need to feel safe. so you carry one. and with that paranoia , you might be in a paranoia, you might be in a tepid situation but leap to self—defence and escalate the situation because you're dealing with people that don't have the social, the social vernacular to deal with situations without leaping to violence because they haven't been raised in an environment that teaches them the pragmatic ways of crisis resolution. >> it's a part of that. absent fathers , we talk about this all fathers, we talk about this all the time. like, are these kids growing up without a fundamental, you know, no backbone of discipline ? backbone of discipline? >> well, statistically, there is obviously a relationship. and i think, i mean , it is a cultural think, i mean, it is a cultural thing, a cultural thing across the board, particularly after the board, particularly after the pandemic. people are living their lives on social media, and we do have a kind of moral vacuum. it's not just about although obviously it is a big part that the police don't actually do their job in policing these things because obviously that's what needs to happenin obviously that's what needs to happen in order to stop this proliferation of people needing
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to carry knives in order to defend themselves. but it's also that there is this ethical value vacuum. there and if you are growing up in a fatherless household with no discipline, with no authority, and you're just allowed to run riot in the streets, of course you're going to end up with these sorts of social problems. we have to leave it there. >> emma webb and jude da silva. we were going to talk about been we were going to talk about beer, biscuits and bread. we'll have to do that next time. so more on the dramatic day that scotland has had. plus no one else from the royals plans to attend the invictus games. the final snub for harry is it? i martin daubney, but first, here's your . weather. here's your. weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> afternoon. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news, an east west split with the weather again tomorrow, it will feel a
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bit warmer in many eastern areas, but again further west just like today, the low pressure will dominate and there will be further outbreaks of rain. this weather front has made for quite a damp day over parts of wales. that rain now extending up across northern scotland . some heavy showers for scotland. some heavy showers for northern ireland for a while. it should turn drier here through this evening. drying up in southern scotland, staying dry across east anglia and the southeast, but further rain at times over the midlands, parts of wales and the southwest of england too , where it stays england too, where it stays cloudy. temperatures likely to stay up eight nine, maybe ten degrees celsius, with some clearer spells . not particularly clearer spells. not particularly chilly, certainly a much milder night than recently. across scotland, maybe 5 or 6 through some sheltered glens . generally, some sheltered glens. generally, though, a lot of cloud around on tuesday morning, some though, a lot of cloud around on tuesday morning , some heavier tuesday morning, some heavier rain again for northern ireland and parts of wales , particularly and parts of wales, particularly pembrokeshire early on, and then devon and cornwall too. but a much brighter day for northwest england. plenty of sunshine right across northern england, the midlands, east anglia and the midlands, east anglia and the south east. and here really will feel quite a bit warmer than it has done for most of
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april 16th, 1718 degrees easily. it will be cooler where we've got the cloud and the outbreaks of rain further west. quite blustery here too, particularly in the morning thanks to this area of low pressure. now that does peel away, allowing warmer air to move in through the rest of this week, but there will still be some rain around as well . well. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> a very good afternoon to you. ihope >> a very good afternoon to you. i hope you're having a wonderful happy monday. it's 5 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. and we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. on today's show, we'll have more reaction to that massive news in scotland today after the resignation of humza yousaf as first minister, who will be the next leader of scotland. we'll
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take a look at the likely runners and riders now that mcwfc went mc broke and tensions grow between the uk and ireland as number 10 attacks. eu double standards and refuses to take back asylum seekers until france do the same. we've got a borderline insanity face off and there's also a huge benefits row looming after the government revealed plans to replace sickness benefit payments with vouchers. would that be a fair scheme, or is that an attack on disabled people's rights and the wedding snap released by william and kate to mark their 13th anniversary as husband and wife? absolutely wonderful picture of your favourite royals discussing how they'll be celebrating , how they'll be celebrating, taking, how it's been such a difficult year and of course the invictus games. harry has been snubbed and that's all coming up in your next hour.
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snubbed and that's all coming up in your next hour . thank in your next hour. thank you for joining me on the show. always an absolute pleasure to have your company. loads of you have been getting in touch with your gb views so far , your essays in gb views so far, your essays in the show and the main thing has got you going is humza yousaf doesn't seem there's a lot of love lost out there from you. and then we found the same thing on the streets of, of edinburgh. early on. people are saying, let's move on, let's get our country back. they're saying, and also this standoff between the irish and the uk government, because they basically said immigration is through the roof in ireland because of the rwanda bill, absolute codswallop . we bill, absolute codswallop. we spoke to a political leader earlier on who said it's political ineptitude and a lack of ability to deal with the issue . that's the real problem. issue. that's the real problem. what's your take? who's actually in control of our borders? get in control of our borders? get in touch the usual ways and also gb news forward slash your say. but first it's your news
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headunes but first it's your news headlines and it's ray addison . headlines and it's ray addison. >> jay's martin 5:02. our top stories this hour. well the snp will be holding a leadership contest now after the scottish first minister announced his resignation earlier , humza resignation earlier, humza yousaf admitted that he underestimated the level of upset that he would cause by cutting political ties with the greens. he'll continue in his post until a replacement can be found. an emotional humza yousaf says he's quitting to help repair relationships across the political divide. >> i bear no ill will and certainly bear no grudge against anyone. politics can be a brutal business. it takes its toll on your physical and mental health. your family suffer alongside you. i am in absolute debt to my wonderful wife , my beautiful wonderful wife, my beautiful children and my wider family for
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putting up with me over the years. i'm afraid you will be seeing a lot more of me, from now . how. >> now. >> well, the race to replace humza yousaf starts now. former deputy first minister john swinney says he's considering it carefully. >> i've got lots of things to think about and there's the whole question of my family and ihave whole question of my family and i have to make sure that i do the right thing by my family. they're precious to me. i have to do the right thing by my party and by my country. so there's lots to be thought about and i'll give all of that consideration in the days to come . come. >> two men have appeared in court charged with murder after a torso was found in a nature reserve in salford. he's 68, and 42 year olds spoke only to confirm their names and dates of birth. with the help of polish translators , as greater translators, as greater manchester police believes human remains are . three other remains are. three other locations belong to the same victim. a man in his 60s. the initial discovery was made by a member of the public at kersal
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dale wetlands. more than three weeks ago . a man has admitted weeks ago. a man has admitted killing a pensioner who was on a mobility scooter in west london. 87 year old thomas o'halloran was stabbed in the neck and chest in august of 2022. lee bowyer committed what was described as a motive motiveless attack. five days after being released from prison. he denied murder but pleaded guilty to manslaughter by diminished responsibility. dozens of migrants have been rescued from the channel after their small boat got into difficulties off the french coast. it's understood a number of people were pulled from the water and taken to the port at calais. the latest rescue operation comes after senior border force officials raised concerns that people in small boats are using children as human shields to evade police. last week, over 900 migrants crossed to the united kingdom . a debate on united kingdom. a debate on whether assisted dying should be
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legalised for terminally ill people is underway in westminster. earlier, campaigners gathered outside of parliament calling for change. assisted suicide is currently bannedin assisted suicide is currently banned in england, wales and northern ireland. in scotland , northern ireland. in scotland, it's not a specific criminal offence, but those who help others to end their own lives risk being charged with murder . risk being charged with murder. opponents say vulnerable people could be pressured into ending their lives. new laws protecting consumers from hacking and cyber attacks are now in force , with attacks are now in force, with all smart devices required to meet minimum security standards. manufacturers of products like phones, tvs and smart doorbells are now legally required to protect internet connected devices against criminal access. common passwords such as one, two, three, four, five are being banned here in the uk as part of a world first legislation, and users will be prompted to change them . well, we're being warned them. well, we're being warned to brace ourselves for even more
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food price rises with beer, biscuits and bread among items expected to jump. the wet weather means harvests of barley and wheat could be down by as much as a fifth. storms and flooding throughout the last few months have forced british farmers to constantly delay sowing their crops. the warning comes just as food prices are beginning to fall following soaring inflation sparked by the global gas price crisis . for the global gas price crisis. for the latest stories, you can sign up for gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common shirts. back now to . martin. now to. martin. >> thank you ray. wow. well, it's certainly been a manic monday afternoon for scottish politics. the scottish national party leader humza yousaf has sensationally quit, triggering a search for a successor and the new scottish first minister. well, he announced his intention
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to stand down after the collapse of a coalition deal with the green party triggered two no confidence votes in his leadership, and former deputy first minister john swinney leadership, and former deputy first ministerjohn swinney has first minister john swinney has said he's considering standing in the race to find yousafs replacement . while scottish mps replacement. while scottish mps now have 28 days to install a new first minister, now that is a lot to take in. let's get all the latest developments with our scotland reporter tony maguire. tony, they say a week is a long time in politics. a weekend proved to be decisive for humza yousaf friday night, when we spoke, i will fight on, he said monday morning . he threw in the monday morning. he threw in the towel. it's curtains for humza yousaf . yousaf. >> indeed martin and it's as we said, you know, in that thursday morning when he ended that bute house agreement after 969 days, you know, many people said that he jumped before he was pushed
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out by the greens and certainly that seems to be the case again today. and he over the weekend, unfortunately, was was rallying back and forth between trying to get support from the greens , get support from the greens, which he had just ditched, as well as alba's singular msp and ash regan and we learned there was going to be factions within the scottish national party that didn't appeal to those parties. now, it seemed to be that he he took the decision to leave, and that then sets his into motion for another snp leadership race, just about 14 months after the previous one, when nicola sturgeon left her role after several years. now interestingly, there have been a couple of names already put out in the running. it is way too early to say any of these with definite, but nicola sturgeon's former deputy first minister, john swinney, he's the one name that's been bandied around something awful. and certainly in gb news. he spoke to us a little earlier on today and he
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said that he was considering his opfions said that he was considering his options very carefully. now he didn't want to go for that role the last time . and because he the last time. and because he thought that the snp needed that fresh perspective . but then this fresh perspective. but then this time he doesn't seem to be so quick to count it out. and of course, the other is kate forbes. she came so close against humza yousaf just a couple of percent between them. by couple of percent between them. by the time it got to the secondary votes . but indeed secondary votes. but indeed right now, today is the day for scottish politicians to pour their heart out, as it were, for humza yousaf for the time that they had spent nicola sturgeon certainly had some warm words to share on x. now these opposition leaders, douglas ross, well, he said that the job is done for the scottish conservatives at this moment. they will go forward now and they will continue to fight the snp for those crucial election seats as and when the general election is called by westminster. and anas sarwar, leader of the scottish labour party, will he is hungry
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and then some for a scottish election . he still doesn't election. he still doesn't believe that the scottish national party are fit to be leading scotland, but certainly enough, maybe about the political elite. what about the people here on the ground here at holyrood and at bute house earlier on today? lots of people turning up to see what all the fuss was about. and i got their reaction there on the ground. how do you take the news this morning? >> oh, it's brilliant news. >> oh, it's brilliant news. >> i hope we get a country back in there. >> stop these. >> stop these. >> the speech laws ? hate speech. >> the speech laws? hate speech. >> the speech laws? hate speech. >> i really feel that he's been manoeuvred into a situation which doesn't account for the good, humane man that he is bad situation for humza and it's bad for scotland. >> i think it's a very good thing . thing. >> and scotland needs a firm many stuff and take the country forward. >> certainly the snp have been leading in a rocky road for the last seven eight years. >> i would say that greens
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betrayed us because we, when they had their challenge , we they had their challenge, we supported them. >> the parliament, the tories and the labour. all they can think of is grievance. grievance grievance, grievance. >> now the good viewers, the good viewers and listeners, well, they look to us for answers and i'm afraid today we're only left with more questions. what about the snp now? what about independence? what about who is going to lead the country and going forward into the next general and scottish election? will it be in 2026? we just don't know. but hopefully over the next few days , more answers will start to show themselves . show themselves. >> tony maguire live in edinburgh. you've been excellent across this story by orson . across this story by orson. thank you very much for joining us once again. and that's flipped back to westminster and get reaction from our political edhon get reaction from our political editor, chris hope, who joins me in the studio. chris, what i was struck by with the electorate there, the voters was a weariness. they're so tired of the infighting. one of the guys said, brilliant. we'll get our
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country back. you must sound like lee anderson. >> yeah, i thought i thought i was struck by the comparison on a uk level with brexit. i think people are tired of the same kind of ideas as notion of independence, notion of a pure brexit or whatever. people want stuff to work, don't they? yeah, i sense that frustration. certainly in scotland. look at the look at the schooling, the way the england has soared ahead and scotland's great education system 20 years ago is not that anymore. >> do you think or do you hope, that this might signify an end to the identity politics obsession we seem to see north of the border an obsession with trans issues, gender recognition, an obsession with hate crime legislation that proved to be a complete red herring for the for the law enforcement officers who had to actually get on the thick end of this. >> well, there are some there are some proper cases of hate crime within that. but but there's a whole the whole number of reported. yes. >> and the net zero stuff. people want their schools to work. they want to be able to get gp's appointment. they want crime to go down. terrible drug problems in scotland. can we
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finally get back to basics or. i'm hoping for too much. >> you might be hoping for too much. i mean, john swinney, if he becomes the leader which looks like he will do, is a safe pair of hands. of course, deputy to nicola sturgeon said goodbye to nicola sturgeon said goodbye to his political career when she quit in 2023. a former leader in opposition of the snp back in 2000 and 2004. i knew him when he was. when i worked in scotland, he was a shadow finance spokesman, a very decent man, but certainly not someone who would go down those rabbit holes , as you're describing, on holes, as you're describing, on the issues of gender and the like. i think he's someone who will return to more more of the centre ground and doing the right things correctly. the snp, though it has to be viewed for what it's for. it is a party to bnng what it's for. it is a party to bring about the independence of scotland. so you have to view all of its policies through through that, through that prism, i think. and that's part of the problem that almost has dominated too much in recent years and have lost sight of what they should be doing. what they don't want right now is an election, and we do think, by the way, this week, that labour will push for this no confidence vote even now. and it might be likely that the greens will step
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back from the brink and won't vote to bring that government down. >> and we spoke to brian monteith, a former msp earlier, who says he thinks that the term yusuf fell on his sword precisely to avoid that no confidence vote in the entire establishment. let's move back to this side of the border. dan poulter, who defected from the conservative party, he's the mp, of course, for central suffolk and north ipswich, defected to the labour party. sir keir starmer has been doing a walkabout . i think we have some walkabout. i think we have some footage of sir keir starmer with dan porter and this should have been labour's big day. this should have been there . he is should have been there. he is pointing at the i'm saying where is he? starmer is saying where are the journalists. well the answer is they're all obsessed with humza yousaf. this should have been a big moment for sir keir starmer. it's kind of been lost in the wash a bit today. >> well i think they had their their 36 hours of news. it emerged of 5 pm. on saturday, ran through sunday and today is the big reveal like a by—election victory. they haven't fought. i mean 24,000 majority for dan poulter in central suffolk and north
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ipswich and has given that away. he wants to go back to the nhs. he's making criticisms, saying the tory government isn't focused on it. facts might suggest that they are, £50 billion increase in spending on the nhs since 2010. a lot of that was on the side of the bus. don't forget the government says that money's been absorbed back into the nhs, but yeah, no question . i think, you know, question. i think, you know, frustrating you. he was saying i would try to reform the nhs. i couldn't get anywhere with it. arguably, though, by joining the labour party i think has the most permission to reform the nhs. if you listen to wear , nhs. if you listen to wear, streeting is saying he is someone who wants to reform it. the tories haven't got the political space to do that. maybe that's why he hasn't said that, though. he said he simply wasn't being listened to. >> so he's quit and he's not standing at the next election. so he's not doing this to jump ship and get get a safe seat back to the labour party. he's making, if you like, a kind of end of career statement, do you think it's quite damning that he says the tories aren't going to back nhs reform and instead how can you even say this? and it's the labour party that might grasp the nettle of
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privatisation. >> wes streeting if you listen to wes streeting, he is talking about reforming the nhs. he's talking to his own party's own supporters . you know, don't supporters. you know, don't worry about using the private healthcare system to clear this 7 million, 7 million backlog of people waiting for, for , for, people waiting for, for, for, for, for treatment. so i think he's talking the language on reform in a way the tory party can't. and maybe that's that's the bet he's taking. yeah. we have has been asked wes streeting is there a deal behind the scenes? will dan poulter emerge wrapped in in ermine and as the house of lords, not as far as wes streeting knows. so as far as we know, that's not the case. >> never a dull day in politics, especially not with you around, chris. so always an absolute delight. you get lots more on that story on our website and thanks to you. gbnews.com is the fastest growing national news website in the country. it's got breaking news and all of the brilliant analysis that you've come to expect from us here @gbnews now, apparently summer is just around the corner and we want to make it sizzle for you with an incredible 20 zero zero £0 in cash up for grabs in the
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welcome back. your time is 522. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now an almighty row has broken out between ireland and the united kingdom. after the irish government announced an emergency law to return migrants to the uk , arguing that to the uk, arguing that increasing numbers were down to rishi sunak rwanda bill will. this comes after violent protests against the rising number of asylum seekers erupted
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in ireland last week. you can see pictures on your screen now that's about an hour south of dublin. locals set fire to a site that had been earmarked for asylum seekers. now the uk government has indicated that it won't accept any migrant returns from ireland unless eu wide asylum rules are changed. we've got a mexican standoff over the irish border and our northern ireland reporter dougie beattie joins us now. dougie welcome to the show. always a delight. now we spoke earlier on dougie and you've hit the nail on the head for many, many years, the irish people and the republic have been complaining about rising immigration, rising asylum numbers. and now, at the 11th houn numbers. and now, at the 11th hour, they're blaming rishi sunak. they're blaming the rwanda bill. what's the reality, dougie ? dougie? >> well, that that is completely correct. micheal martin realises in these european elections that are going to come here that he
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has to blame somebody for a failed immigration policy. so revert to, a past and just blame the british. it was them. they did it. and rishi sunak is only too happy. but to say that another country is giving off because the rwanda bill is causing people to come south. now there is a certain amount of truth in that, because i've covered this for gb news for the past two years, and there really decent people of dublin, in particular, north dublin , have particular, north dublin, have been inundated into working class areas , with immigrants class areas, with immigrants coming from the uk who have maybe been in the uk for a number of years and have decided, well, if this if this rwanda bill comes into place , rwanda bill comes into place, we're going to move there. so it it hasn't been something that's happened since last week. and of course, leo varadkar knew this when he was signing up to the brexit agreement. and he was offered a electronic a smart border in ireland. and between
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donald tusk and michel barnier, they put it up to theresa may and said no, there can be no border at all in ireland now. a border at all in ireland now. a border in ireland wouldn't be a military border. it would be an electronic border that would track the movement of people and track the movement of people and track the movement of people and track the movement of goods. there would be no downfall to that border. but we have a common travel area that exists between united kingdom and the repubuc between united kingdom and the republic of ireland. it was put in place in 1926. various parts have been into place as britain has went in and out of wars, and it's really the one from the 19705 it's really the one from the 1970s that we work upon . now, 1970s that we work upon. now, tomorrow i'm hearing that there may be a debate in the doyle in the round. the common travel area , of which sinn fein, who area, of which sinn fein, who are the largest party in the repubuc are the largest party in the republic of ireland, would have to oppose because that would then end up putting some border back in ireland . and of course, back in ireland. and of course, fine gael, fianna fail and the greens that are in a coalition
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government at the moment are wanting to do something for these european elections. but on thursday night at newtown mount kenny, the garda turned pepper spray and the riot squad on what would be an upper middle class area of wicklow, and they turned it on. the locals . that was the it on. the locals. that was the real point here that shook the establishment in dublin. they realised that some of these people would be very big. fine gael and fianna fail supporters and by sending the garda siochana out in force to them, has actually caused this right to break out because ireland is in a real financial state of having. and i said it before and i was totally trashed for saying it, martin, that the infrastructure is not here. and it's not that ireland is a poor country. it's a very good country. it's a very good country . it's a very modern country. it's a very modern country. it's a very modern country. but they have a modern society and an infrastructure for about 4 million people. there's now over 5 million here. and in the last ten years, you
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know that a million of them are not irish citizens. and that's only the ones that's registered . only the ones that's registered. that's not including the illegal immigrants that have came in here. and now many of them are travelling on this road where i stand southward bound, because they are afraid of the rwanda bill. so there's some sorting out to be done here. and the biggest thing that was amazing to me was the amount of people that were welcoming gb news in the door, because they do not trust their own media to tell the truth of what is going on. >> superb stuff. dougie beattie on the border with ireland and northern ireland and it's great here that they're listening to us over there talking sense. dougie beattie smashed it always a pleasure. thank you very much. now, rishi sunak's rwanda deal has had a ringing endorsement from none other than european union chief ursula von der leyen's party. can you adam and eve it the european people's party , the largest in the party, the largest in the european parliament, has said it
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wants to implement the concept of safe third countries and its manifesto. it actually stated anyone applying for asylum in the eu could also be transferred to a safe third country, and undergo the asylum process. there is exactly like the rwanda deal there is exactly like the rwanda deal. then you could not make this up and i'm joined now by the member of the european parliament, charlie weimers. charlie, welcome to the show. i find this simply astonishing. i sat as an mep. ursula von der euanne sat as an mep. ursula von der elianne was the world's number one fan of open borders. suddenly it's election time. suddenly it's election time. suddenly they're in trouble and she turns into a mini nigel farage. >> well, she's on the campaign trail, isn't she, i mean, for five years, her commission has been refusing to fund border walls at the eu external border. so, it's a bit surprising to hear this rhetoric coming from none other than ursula von der
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leyen. but i welcome it. i mean, i got to say that, finally the centre right of europe is waking up to the reality that mass migration is not working. that's that's at least positive . that's at least positive. >> and is this, charlie, just the usual case of politicians sensing they're about to get hammered at the elections? we know there are there are reports of the right parties, the euro sceptic parties making massive gains across many of the european member states. is this a political act of survival? and more to the point, will the voters buy it? >> well, it is quite desperate, to be honest. and you should read the fine printing in her remarks. she's, actually stating that , you know, this should be that, you know, this should be to , according echr judgement and
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to, according echr judgement and so on and so forth . so, i mean, so on and so forth. so, i mean, you know, i'm feeling a little bit of weasel acting, on on the behalf of the epp, her european party, are they just going to walk away from this after the elections? i mean , the only safe elections? i mean, the only safe opfion elections? i mean, the only safe option for a european voters is to go for real conservatives, in this election. >> because, charlie, if this were to be the manifesto and if they were to implement it, were to be the manifesto and if they were to implement it , they they were to implement it, they could be the astonishing situation. charlie weimers , that situation. charlie weimers, that the european court of human rights could take ursula von der leyen to court . leyen to court. >> yeah, i'd love to see that , i >> yeah, i'd love to see that, i mean, actually, we're looking forward to a new mandate with, a centre right majority in which , centre right majority in which, we conservatives, the ecr group, can actually play a constructive role in shaping climate policy, energy policy, migration policy.
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and, of course, the rwanda plan is part of our policies, and we will fight for it. and, we also say from my party's side that , say from my party's side that, you know, the process to, to, become part of the european convention on human rights that the eu is in right now , got to the eu is in right now, got to stop. and if countries individual countries, member states are stopped, like the uk from actually implementing a third country plan , well, we third country plan, well, we better leave the air. >> well, charlie amos, thank you very much for joining >> well, charlie amos, thank you very much forjoining us. member of the european parliament, all to play for in these elections in june. make no mistake, there's a very real policy property , very real possibility. property, very real possibility. i beg your pardon, that a centre right coalition might take over control of the european parliament and then all bets are off. we're going to be seeing a rapid, spiral out of control, falling away from the centrist,
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from the liberals. amazing stuff. loads still to come between now and 6:00, and a wedding snap is released to mark william and kate's13th wedding anniversary. but how will they be celebrating during this tough year? they've had a wonderful picture of britain's favourite royals, but first, it's time for your latest news headlines and it's ray addison . it's ray addison. >> thanks, martin. 531 our top stories a leadership contest will be launched in scotland after the first minister announced his resignation. humza yousaf admitted he underestimated the level of upset he would cause by cutting political ties with the greens . political ties with the greens. he's also stepping down as snp leader, but will continue in that post until a replacement is found . an emotional mr yousaf found. an emotional mr yousaf said he's quitting to help repair relationships across the political divide . political divide. >> i bear no ill will and certainly bear no grudge against
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anyone. politics can be a brutal business. it takes its toll on your physical and mental health, your physical and mental health, your family suffer alongside you. i am in absolute debt to my wonderful wife , my beautiful wonderful wife, my beautiful children and my wider family for putting up with me over the years. i'm afraid you will be seeing a lot more of me, from now . how. >> now. >> two men have appeared in court charged with murder after a torso was found in a nature reserve in salford . the 68 and reserve in salford. the 68 and 42 year olds spoke only to confirm their names and dates of birth. with the help of polish translators. greater manchester police believes that human remains at three other locations belong to the same victim, a man in his 60s man has admitted killing a pensioner on a mobility scooter in west london, just five days after being released from prison. 45 year old lee bowyer stabbed 87 year
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old lee bowyer stabbed 87 year old thomas o'halloran in the neck and chest in what was described as a motiveless attack . in august 2022, baker denied murder but pleaded guilty to manslaughter by diminished responsibility. he campaigners have been rallying outside parliament, where mps are debating whether assisted dying should be legalised for the terminally ill. it's after more than 200,000 people signed a petition backed by dame esther rantzen, who has stage four lung cancen rantzen, who has stage four lung cancer. those who oppose a change in the law fear that vulnerable people could be pressured into ending their lives. for the latest stories , lives. for the latest stories, you can sign up for gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common gert's royals. >> cheers! britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report .
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financial report. >> well, let's have a quick snapshot of today's markets. the pound will buy you $1.2556 and ,1.1713. price of gold £1,864.68 per ounce. and the ftse 100 closed at 8147 points. >> cheers, britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . financial report. >> thank you ray. now hundreds of you have been getting in touch with the show on the topic of giving people benefits vouchers instead of cash so they can't misspend it on things like ciggies and booze. steve says this i see no reason why. why benefits should not be paid in vouchers. there is no stigma attached to visiting food banks these days, so why not vouchers? quite simply, our benefits bill is totally unsustainable . that's is totally unsustainable. that's my favourite part of the show because i'm joined by the queen
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of prime time political debate andifs of prime time political debate and it's michelle dewberry. michelle, what's on your menu ? michelle, what's on your menu? hello, martin. >> yeah, fascinating story that about those vouchers. i want to explore that a little bit because some people are saying, well, hold on a minute. this is the government trying to control how we spend our money. but hang on, if you're receiving that money from the government, should they be able to have some control in that or not? of course, i do want to ask the viewers, how much do you care about the goings on when it comes to humza yousaf? are you sitting there now saying thank god he's gone? does it bother you at all? does it affect your life in any way? and actually the goings on in scotland, has this just paved the way to make it easier , potentially for keir it easier, potentially for keir starmer to have a route , a fast starmer to have a route, a fast track into downing street also as well . he assisted dying as well. he assisted dying debate taking place personally , debate taking place personally, i think i should be able to choose when i end my life. i wonder if the viewers agree with that or not. i can tell you my panel completely disagree. and also, did you see at the weekend as well, we've had another defection over to the labour party . there's something
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defection over to the labour party. there's something i don't like about this, martin. if you elect a member of parliament, let's just say a tory one. in this case, it's not for them to suddenly decide that that seat is now going to become labour and vice versa, without a by—election. is it superb of a show packed full of punch as ever? >> michelle dewberry dewbs& co six till 7 pm. right after this looks fantastic. now in a few minutes we're talking royal news. but first, there's a new way to get in touch with us here @gbnews and here's bev turner with all of the details . with all of the details. >> we are proud to be gb news the people's channel and as you know, we always love to hear your views. now there's a new way of getting in touch with us @gbnews .com. forward slash your say by commenting you can be part of a live conversation and join our gb news community. you can even talk to me, bev turner or any of the members of the gb news family. simply go to gbnews.com/yoursay say
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>> welcome back. it's 540. we're on the final furlong . i'm martin on the final furlong. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news now. today marks the 13th anniversary of the wedding of the prince and princess of wales. and they've released an unseen photograph of their wedding day. it's an absolutely wonderful picture . absolutely wonderful picture. and joining me now to discuss this is the former bbc royal correspondent michael cole. michael always a delight. what a great way to start the week to have you on the show on a monday. britain's favourite royal couple a sensational picture reminding us of why they're so wonderful and popular. >> good afternoon martin. >> good afternoon martin. >> yes, and i think we can, on behalf of the whole country , behalf of the whole country, send our congratulations. >> 13 years, three beautiful children being brought up properly and, very , very, very properly and, very, very, very good going. and i have to tell you this, martin. >> very close to home for you. a
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13th wedding anniversary is a lace wedding anniversary. and there she is, dressing lace. nottingham and lace were once synonymous. and what a beautiful picture. this is not a picture contemporary from the wedding day when the prince had changed from his red tunic, which he wore for his wedding at westminster abbey, into a guards officer's day dress, a uniform with the frogging very, very handsome i am. i know that, the queen insisted that he wore the red tunic of the guards. i'm not sure whether he was very happy about that, because he did most of his service in the raf , and i of his service in the raf, and i personally feel that the blue, the raf blue uniform with the white bride's dress would have been better. i always think when i see red white like that , i i see red white like that, i always think of a barber's pole, which of course is reminiscent reminiscent when barbers were barber surgeons and the red and the white symbolised the blood
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and the bandages, and i've never really quite liked it, but it's a great picture, of course, because she's undergoing treatment and we wish her so much better as soon as possible, there's not a new photograph . there's not a new photograph. >> and michael just just just to point out there you weren't outing me for a man with a penchant for lace. you were saying that i come from nottingham, which is famed for its late. in fact, i worked in a lace factory when i was 13, my first job. let's move to on a royal couple. not quite so popular. certainly prince harry, the invictus games rejection. another anniversary, this time the 10th anniversary michael of the 10th anniversary michael of the invictus games. the ginger winger due to give a speech. turns out none of the royals are going to turn up. >> that's not a great surprise, but let us be fair. nobody, nobody leaves a battlefield . old nobody leaves a battlefield. old unscarred invictus means
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unconquerable. and after his two tours of duty in afghanistan , tours of duty in afghanistan, varne coming back on a transport plane with coffins , holding the plane with coffins, holding the bodies of brave british soldiers who died out there, he had an idea which i think was brilliant. >> of course, this was all pre meghan. very much so . and he meghan. very much so. and he decided to start the invictus games and now, 22 countries send their wounded . their wounded. >> they're traumatised, they're damaged people to those games and they do a tremendous amount of good. >> what is interesting is that prince harry, first of all, went over to america to see the warrior games there. >> and he came back. and let me tell you this, martin, this is quite interesting. when he started to set it up, the two people who worked with him were his brother and his sister in law . they were closely law. they were closely associated with the beginning of
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the invictus games and at that time, pre meghan . time, pre meghan. >> he virtually lived in their flat at kensington palace. i think prince william got a bit fed up with him , always with his fed up with him, always with his wife, and those three got on so well they couldn't have been closer. >> of course. how times changed. mike. michael i'm afraid, i'm afraid we simply have to leave it there. we've run out of time. michael cole, a man who always laces this show with a regal quality . see you laces this show with a regal quality. see you again soon. thank you very much. now, still to come before 6 pm, my panel, emma webb and greta de silva will be back to discuss some of the stories of the day, including the report that proposal to replace sickness benefits with vouchers. i'm martin daubney on gb news,
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welcome back. it's 548. we're on the final. final furlong now. and i'm joined in the studio once again by political commentator emma webb and the broadcast
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journalist judith de silva. right. let's get stuck into this story today about the benefits clampdown judyta the theory being £69 billion per year on sickness benefits . two thirds of sickness benefits. two thirds of thatis sickness benefits. two thirds of that is mental health. to try and clamp down on the on the cost. the proposal is to give vouchers , food stamps, for vouchers, food stamps, for example, instead of cash because food banks are being used for free food and the cash is being misspent. is this acceptable or is it dehumanising? it is dehumanising because understandably, what they're trying to do is find a solution that's a filtration system for people who don't have really grave illnesses, and therefore you're trying to get them to a point where they can return to work quicker. >> but what you're doing is basically trying to find a cost saving measure as opposed to an assessment of human strife. and that's what i say. it's dehumanising about it because how do you give someone with a mental health issue a voucher to that to cure their ailment? what they need is support through the transition to better health. and thatis transition to better health. and that is something that's financial . and what will be the financial. and what will be the financial. and what will be the
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financial equivalent. because if you're saying you're doing this as a cost saving measure, you for giving them a voucher for talking remedies, that's a therapist that takes money. so you're going to have to divest funds to that. so what which one is it because one is inexpensive. so the quality of the kind of talking measures is going to be lower. so you're devaluing the value of human welfare emma i think it's important that taxpayer money is spent efficiently on this kind of thing. >> and yes, there are many people who do have legitimate disabilities , and some of those disabilities, and some of those will be mental health related, and they should have support to do that. though i am a bit sceptical about how how effective that the government would be in channelling towards mental health services through the nhs. but that's a separate issue and i think that the taxpayer needs, especially with the cost of living crisis and everything. a lot of the people who are suffering, including people who use food banks, will be paying taxes and we'll be having those taxes spent inefficiently on certain things, including on other people who
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might be unnecessarily taking up resources in this way. so i do think that and the government is right. i think in saying that we shouldn't be supporting with taxpayer money people who are just struggling with the normal trying trials and tribulations of life. >> but what is the metric for that ? because how do you assess that? because how do you assess that? because how do you assess that somebody who presents with a mental health problem that's and say that's just life. what is the barometer of measurement and who established it? because if medical professionals, professionals have diagnosed this person with a mental health issue that needs recourse and that takes money, it's difficult because there's an element of subjectivity in mental health diagnosis. >> but the reality is that we are very lucky in this country that we do have the ability to spend taxpayer money on helping those who might need it in this way, but it's also important for taxpayers that that money is spent effectively. and i do appreciate the fact that the government are trying to figure out a way to ensure that that money is being spent properly. i do also recognise, though, that
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you are right, do also recognise, though, that you are right , that i can you are right, that i can imagine that being given a voucher instead of being given money, might feel a little dehumanising to use that voucher rather than cash. however, there will be people who are taking the mick. that's the point. >> are there going to be people like that? but you have to accept that the fundamental motivation for this is cost saving measures. and when you're deaung saving measures. and when you're dealing with something that, again, is as difficult to measure as mental health, you're playing fast and loose with something that you already do not have. >> isn't that the point, though? judha? >> isn't that the point, though? judita? if it's difficult to measure, people go on the fiddle. >> some people will, but then what they've presented doesn't show a robust filtration system to truly assess the individual. because let's face it, there will be people who fall through the cracks because you do not want to force someone back into work that does not have the mental capacity to be productive at it, because then on the back end of that, you're going to have, businesses and industries that are struggling to deal with employees that are sub—par. >> but then the argument would be that actually, for many people who do have mental health problems, that what they need is not support to stay out of work,
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but support to be able to get back into work , to have a social back into work, to have a social life, to be in the world, to be less atomised , and that actually less atomised, and that actually we are creating a culture that is mollycoddling and that is unaffordable long term. it's just not sustainable. so we do need people to get back into work and simply having nerves or anxiety. and yes, they get these things are on a spectrum and they are subjective. and how one person reacts to a bad situation in life will be different to the way another person reacts, and there is an element of judgement that needs to be involved there. but the reality is that you can't endlessly spend taxpayer money on on things that as you say, some people will be on the fiddle, and it is a luxury that we have the ability to do that in this country. but at the moment people are suffering. we can't afford all of this taxpayer money to be spent on people that really should be in work, and that it would actually be better for them if they were able to get back into work. >> so don't you think that then when you are then presented with an issue where businesses are saying that we have problematic employees, but again, because of a situation that you have a society that, like you said, is
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mollycoddling , they are now mollycoddling, they are now strangled as to whatever recourse they have to terminate that employee, to tell them to take force them to take leave, because you now have a workforce with questionable mental health stability being put back into situations that they cannot cope with, you've created a new problem within the actual the corporate sector. and so you're trying to prevent you're trying to prevent one problem by potentially creating, creating a bigger one, because you haven't gone back to the source of the issue, which is you have to set up a structure within mental health. provisions in health care that is more robust and more cost is £69 billion a year. >> we can't keep doing this forever. surely that's the point. >> yeah, we're not babies, we're adults, and we need to be treated like adults and not baby'd by the state, i think. yes, i recognise that it is sometimes important to give people support when they need it, or you have to do is look at the homelessness problem and, and, and various things that people will see on the streets of their own towns to know that there is we do have issues with mental health, and there are people that need support, but it's about doing that
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effectively and efficiently and not wasting taxpayer money. and unfortunately, i think that the statistics show that there are too many people who are taking sick leave because of mental health reasons. of course there will there will be legitimate reasons why there might be an increasing issue in that respect. but okay, we have to make sure to leave it there. >> emma webb, judith de silva superb stuff. we'll continue this one in the pub over the way in a minute . thanks forjoining in a minute. thanks forjoining us on the show. it's been superb having you dewbs& co is up next, but first it's time for your weather and it's alex deakin. i'll see you tomorrow. same time 3:00. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar for sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> afternoon. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news, an east west split with the weather again tomorrow. it will feel a bit warmer in many eastern areas, but again further west.
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just like today, the low pressure will dominate and there will be further outbreaks of rain. this weather front has made for quite a damp day over parts of wales. that rain now extending up across northern scotland. some heavy showers for northern ireland for a while. it should turn drier here through this evening. drying up in southern scotland , staying dry southern scotland, staying dry across east anglia and the southeast, but further rain at times over the midlands, parts of wales and the southwest of england too, where it stays cloudy. temperatures likely to stay up eight nine, maybe ten degrees celsius, with some clearer spells . not particularly clearer spells. not particularly chilly, certainly a much milder night than recently. across scotland, maybe 5 or 6 through some sheltered glens. generally, though, a lot of cloud around on tuesday morning, some heavier rain again for northern ireland and parts of wales, particularly pembrokeshire. early on, and then devon and cornwall too. but a much brighter day for northwest england. plenty of sunshine right across northern england , the midlands, east england, the midlands, east anglia and the south east and here really will feel quite a bit warmer than it has done for most of april. 16, 1718 degrees
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easily. it will be cooler where we've got the cloud and the outbreaks of rain further west. quite blustery here too, particularly in the morning thanks to this area of low pressure . now that does peel pressure. now that does peel away, allowing warmer to air move in through the rest of this week, but there will still be some rain around as well. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on
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and over in ireland, they're blaming the uk. they're rwanda. plan for an influx of migrants
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crossing their border. they want to be able to send these people back to this country should they be able to or not. and a tory mp has defected to the labour party. he's a doctor and apparently wants to be able to look his colleagues in the eye. fascinating. but should your mp be able to defect to a different party without a by—election automatically having to be called? and i confess , i want called? and i confess, i want the right to be able to choose when i die. do you? the assisted dying bill is being debated in parliament, right now, and i can tell you my panel have completely different views on it, and humza yousaf has resigned. do you care ? i've got resigned. do you care? i've got all our and more, but before we get stuck in, let's cross live for tonight's latest news headlines. >> thanks, michelle. i'm ray addison in the gb news room. our top stories. the snp will hold a leadership contest after the
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