black >> morning. 930 on tuesday, the 23rd of april, saint george's day. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and cheese. karen malone. >> a victory for rishi as his rwanda bill finally passes through parliament. but will these flights ever get off the ground? we will speak to reform uk leader richard tice for his reaction and channel migrant deaths. >> at least five have died trying to cross the english channel just hours after the rwanda bill passed. the irony of it all is china a threat to the uk? >> as police charge a parliamentary researcher with espionage? we'll talk to former tory leader iain duncan smith about his encounter with the chinese wolf warrior and happy saint george's day. >> red crosses will fly high as crowds gather across england to celebrate their patron saint. we'll be live with a knees up in dartford . dartford. >> we'd love to hear what you

think . send >> we'd love to hear what you think. send your views and post your comments by visiting gb news. com you're safe. but first, here's the news with sophia wenzler. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> it's 930. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . we start in the gb newsroom. we start with some breaking news. at least five migrants have died after their small boat got into difficulties off the french coast overnight . the incident coast overnight. the incident happened off wimereux beach near boulogne , before 2 am. a number boulogne, before 2 am. a number of other migrants were rescued , of other migrants were rescued, with at least one now critically ill, in hospital . gb news can ill, in hospital. gb news can reveal that another five small migrant boats are attempting to make the crossing from france. one of the boats left a beach near calais at first light this morning, and is currently being escorted by french border force. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says it shows we need urgent action to tackle small boat crossings , and shows how boat crossings, and shows how

dangerous these boat crossings are. >> they put lives at risk and they are undermining our border security and criminal gangs are making huge profits from these dangerous boats and from putting lives at risk in this way. and that's why we urgently need proper action to tackle these dangerous boat crossings. >> this morning's incident in the channel comes just hours after the government's flagship rwanda bill finally passed through parliament. the prime minister called it a landmark law, promising that nothing will stand in the way of flights getting off the ground . the bill getting off the ground. the bill designates rwanda as a safe country, allowing the government to deport asylum seekers there . to deport asylum seekers there. and for the latest stories , sign and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gbnews.com slash alerts.

okay. >> hello and welcome to britain's newsround tv news with andrew pierce and carmelo. >> he's still opening his laptop . he's not quite ready. but anyway, here we go. >> always ready now to bring you up to date on that breaking news. in the last hour, up to five migrants have died this morning crossing the channel just hours , literally after the just hours, literally after the rwanda bill was passed by the house of lords and the parliament. our home security edhon parliament. our home security editor, mark white, joins us now i >> -- >> good morning. yes, a terrible tragedy that's unfolded just off wimereux, which is north of berlin . it was around 5 wimereux, which is north of berlin. it was around 5 am. local time when french authorities reported that a migrant boat attempted to get into the water. very overcrowded . more than 100 people on board that boat, according to the french coastguard. now the french coastguard. now the french coastguard. now the french coastguard have also confirmed that the boat got stranded. it appears on a sandbank for a while. it then

shifted there was a movement of people on board the boat which endedin people on board the boat which ended in some of those people entering the water were told that at this stage the those who died were three men, a woman and a young child. it's believed that a number of others were taken to hospital as well, as they were rescued from the water from the pitch black water, of course, cause still not yet first light. when this incident unfolded . and so the latest unfolded. and so the latest tragedy taking the number who have drowned so far this year to 14 as they attempt to make that illegal crossing to the uk. and as we speak more , more small as we speak more, more small boats are attempting to make the crossing gb news understands that at least five small boats are pushed off from french beaches this morning. another three small boats off the beach at wimereux that very same beach that this tragic drowning occurred on just hours earlier,

and also another small boat has left from the beach at calais to try to make it from dunkirk. one turn back. another is offshore but has been suffering. i think mechanical difficulties because it's not made much progress. so whatever rishi sunak might say in terms of the deterrent effect of his rwanda bill, that's certainly not being felt at the moment on the coast of france, as the people smugglers keep pushing these boats out towards the uk. >> all right, that's matt white, our homeland security editor, mike white. he'll keep us up to date on this throughout the program. sarah vine dailymail.com joins us. so this doesn't this make the point why this rwanda bill has to work? >> absolutely. and it may be that people are just trying to get in before it. yeah. you know, that we may see a little bit of a surge with people trying to get across before it comes into effect. but yes, i mean , i mean, i have a grudging mean, i mean, i have a grudging respect for rishi, to be honest , respect for rishi, to be honest, for pushing this through and for sticking to his guns. you know ,

sticking to his guns. you know, i mean, everyone's always saying we want conviction politicians. i mean , this is certainly a man i mean, this is certainly a man who's shown conviction in relation to this policy . relation to this policy. >> do you think it's translating that conviction is translating to the electorate ? do you think to the electorate? do you think it matters to them or do they not believe him anymore? >> i don't think, i don't think, i think it would. i think rishi has more problems than i think the tory party has more problems than rishi himself. do you know what i mean? i think i think he i don't think he can solve them. really. to be perfectly honest, i think it's very unlikely that he can turn it around. but i think what he's trying to do is to just do some things that he thinks are right before the end comes . and i think that's correct. >> you know, wouldn't you think that it's interesting they're saying five more boats are taking off this morning. so even when five people died, these people are still scrambling on board these boats that are not safe. >> well, i mean, of course, now we're coming into the boat season because it gets a little bit warmer and the seas are a little bit calmer. so i imagine that there's a huge backlog of people who have arrived on the on that coast waiting to go across, and the smugglers want their money. i mean, the thing

about the rwanda scheme is, is it has always been primarily about stopping these criminals, you know, basically stopping them from making a fortune from, you know, basically human misery. you know, why do you think labour are have been trying to stop the rwanda bill. >> we i mean, well today we've we're going to repeat it. >> they're going to repeal it. yeah. >> because what they want to do is because they think that people should be able to stay in the uk because they think, you know, they're distrustful of. i mean, there's a whiff of condescension and racism to their policy because they're distrustful of rwanda. they think it's a sort of, you know, tin pot country. >> yeah, very nice country, very popular with tourists and actually rwanda. >> yeah. of course, we all know rwanda's had terrible past, but it's worked very hard to try and rehabilitate itself in terms of its government and stuff, and of course. but you know, for them it's just it's just it going back to tony blair, it was always just an open door policy as far as they're concerned. and of course, the other thing about about labour is that , you know, about labour is that, you know, if you look at the people who

vote for labour, they tend to be disproportionately, you know, immigrants who, who. >> tony blair flooded the flooded, you know, they are from eastern europe in in the first place. >> it's a, it's a it's an inexhaustible supply of votes for labour i agree. so that's why. and you know, they would never admit that. but that's the truth isn't it? >> i was really pleased that the prime minister in his press conference yesterday, which i actually think he was quite effective, highlighted that the biggest increase in the number of migrants coming to this country are from vietnam. can somebody explain to me what war is raging in vietnam, what conflict is raging in vietnam? >> it's quite a nasty place in terms of human rights. i mean, it's very low key, but i wouldn't want to live there. >> but but they're not they're not running away from strife, are they? i mean, it's not like it's not like afghanistan , where it's not like afghanistan, where there's been war and the taliban are persecuting women. it's different. yeah and it's a ten fold increase. i would say that that was definitely an economic migration more than anything else . but every time, sarah, we

else. but every time, sarah, we see the boat come in, it looks like economic migration. young men in their 30s or 20s or youngen men in their 30s or 20s or younger, and they're economic migrants. where are the women and kids exactly. >> so i think that what we're trying to do here is distinguish between people who are coming here to make it, you know, for economic reasons and people who are coming here for, for sort of refugee reasons. and that's what that's what labour won't do. yeah. >> what do you think about hugh huw edwards finally got hugh grant. >> sorry. >> sorry. >> freudian slip. >> freudian slip. >> freudian slip . >> freudian slip. >> freudian slip. >> well, was it he had 1 or 2 of his own issues back in the 90s. it was. >> this was about time, wasn't it, sarah, that he had to be. i don't see what else could have happened. >> i mean, it's such a such a spectacular fall from grace, do you think he's jumped or been pushed? sorry. other thing. do you think he's been pushed, or do you think he did resign for medical reasons? >> i think no , i think they >> i think no, i think they probably just got rid of 55 word statement from the bbc. >> there was no praise, no thank you for your glorious service. >> i mean, he was not loved at the bbc by by sort of, you know, people on the ground, you know, staff, people who work, you know, kind of in the studios and stuff like that. he wasn't he

wasn't i don't think he was very loved. i mean, i had know a few people who do those sorts of jobs and none of them really had an awful lot. >> it's a shocking slap in the face, isn't it, for licence payers that they see this guy. he's been off work since last july on full pay. a guy who's already rich and the bbc are saying he won't get a pay off, but of course he's on a massive pension and we don't know what his contract is. >> the thing is, is that he, you know, it was it was the whole mental health thing. and the bbc really had their hands tied because if somebody says that they are having their nervous breakdown, it's just not okay in this day and age to just jettison them, i'm afraid. >> but is this extraordinary? so when you think he did so well, the boy from a pretty working class welsh background went to cardiff university, flourished in the bbc, which is dominated by oxbridge and private education. and he got to the very top he was being. he was the new david dimbleby. and yet it all fell apart. i think it's his misjudgement. >> i think it's a sort of very i think it's a thing that happens to characters like that, personalities like that, who are very, very driven, you know, and i think that there's a sort of element of, well, you know, i

don't deserve to be here. there's all sorts of weird sort of psychosis that comes with being that sort of person . and i being that sort of person. and i think in such a reckless way, people do self—sabotage. it's a well understood psychological behaviour, isn't it, when they're very successful . i mean, they're very successful. i mean, you know, if you see it with politicians, you know, who do things well, you do crazy. >> increasingly , weeks mark >> increasingly, weeks mark menzies really insane things that you think why would any normal person do that? >> but it's to do with the pressure. i think of the position. yeah. >> it's interesting. i was going to say the family of the person who made the complaint, which led to all of this. they're furious because they want they say there are lots of unanswered questions that they reckon edwards has got away scot free. they want to know, did he take part in the inquiry , you know, part in the inquiry, you know, did he answer the questions that they wanted answered? so they have been left with nothing. >> we should remind people what he was doing. he was exchanged. he was paying for explicit 35 grand a period of three years of this person, young person who was who was aged no over age. so there was no law. no law was broken. and this person is allegedly had issues with drugs,

which was why the family was so concerned. they went to the bbc to complain . so what are you to complain. so what are you doing about it? the bbc did nothing, so they went to the person was doing this in order to get money to pay for drugs. and that's what the family believe. and 35,000 is a lot of money and a lot of drugs. and it's a terrible mess, isn't it? >> well, i mean, i just, you know, like, why would you pay for pictures? i don't it is a bizarre thing, isn't it, that stuff at all. >> and why would you think you wouldn't get caught. yes. >> one of the most famous faces in britain, huw edwards. >> but i think it's a complex, you know, sort of thing. i think there's a lot going on there psychologically, isn't there? >> well , there is for you to >> well, there is for you to jeopardise your career like that. >> yeah, yeah . >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> but but i mean we were looking at talking yesterday about one of the mps mark menzies , who's stepping down. menzies, who's stepping down. ten tory mps have had the whip withdrawn, been suspended by since rishi sunak became leader . since rishi sunak became leader. yeah. what is the matter with that. >> but it's not a new thing. >> but it's not a new thing. >> i mean one of them watching porn in the commons chamber. remember that tractor porn. i mean, what possessed him ?

mean, what possessed him? >> he did say that. >> he did say that. >> that was he just pressed the wrong button. >> yeah, so he did. that's right. i mean, i don't know, don't think i've ever pressed a button and found i don't even know what tractor porn is, by the way. >> i don't really know what tractor porters. >> well, he had a rural seat and he was talking about, i mean, i think there were women mps within feet of him seeing what he was. >> i mean, i'm prepared to accept that he might have just pressed the wrong button because you get these awful ads that pop up on your. but then the other mp rag, who shares an image of his nude body with a stranger he met on a gay dating and then tractor even and then gives away the numbers of dozens of others. >> i mean, that is what's possessed, but i don't understand. >> if you're an mp. i'm sorry. i know you're gay, but i mean, if you're an mp, what are you doing on a gay dating app? >> well, i quite i'm sorry. >> well, i quite i'm sorry. >> why are you doing that? because i mean grindr as well, which, i mean, i don't know if the listeners know what grindr is, but it's basically it's basically. hello? i'm in the next room. would you like to have sex with me in the loo? >> yeah. the good thing, sarah, is because pierce, as you know, because you know him very well, he's hopeless with technology,

so he could never get on. >> and i've never been. >> and i've never been. >> i've never been. i'm very happy. >> i've never been. i'm very happy- i >> i've never been. i'm very happy. i can't even. >> i'm in a very good. >> i've never been on a dating app >> i've never been on a dating app in my life. >> have you seen him? he's on tiktok. >> well, have you seen it? >> well, have you seen it? >> you should look at him on tiktok. >> listen, this will end his career. i'm telling you, he's very. >> no, i have to have people. >> no, i have to have people. >> it's like having your granddad on tiktok, and i'm going. >> hello, i'm andrew pierce, i'm on tiktok, i'm going on instagram. are you? yes. good luck. it was hilarious. good luck. it was hilarious. good luck. she's jealous. she's jealous because she doesn't know how to do it. >> i've been doing instagram for years. >> we just want to ask you a question before we let you go. her age. there's a report come out of germany that in germany, now that people think you're not old until you're 75. >> i know this is a huge relief to me. yeah, certainly a huge relief to me. i'm very happy and joyful about this situation. i don't know angels, they always say age is a number. >> it's a bit of a cliche, but i had a message from someone the other day saying, i'm a great admirer of your energy levels. for somebody who's so elderly. they thought they were paying me a complex. and yesterday on the tube, somebody offered me a seat on the tube and i said, you're going to have to start dyeing

your hair again. >> and i said, thank you very much. >> i said, thank you very much. but i'm going to stand. but that's very gracious. are you sure? >> see, he goes on about my age, sarah, that just no one offers me seats on tray. >> well, you never go on the tube. >> that's true. >> that's true. >> she never does. she never does. i'm not elderly, by the way. thank you. >> you're so. »- >> you're so. >> not by german standards, not by german standards. >> no. >> no. >> not now. up next. don't go anywhere because we're going to be joined by the leader of reform uk, richard tice, who still thinks rishi's. he thinks rishi is a socialist, by the way, and he also thinks the rwanda policy is for the birds. you're with britain's newsroom on

gb news. so let's return to our top story . after five months of deadlock, the rwanda bill has finally passed through parliament. rishi sunak has said the first flights will leave by july. >> but how likely is that? >> but how likely is that? >> michael tomlinson? he's a minister for illegal migration. oozing confidence this morning. >> last night was a momentous

occasion. we were told that the bill would never pass , that we'd bill would never pass, that we'd never get it through, and the prime minister was determined to ensure that we got the bill through. and we did that last night. and here's the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, with her reaction, the problem with her reaction, the problem with the scheme. >> and bear in mind, this is there was announced two years ago, they told us they were implementing this two years ago, and they have just kept writing checks to rwanda . so with every checks to rwanda. so with every step along the way, they simply write more checks. the first thing that they're going to do now that this latest piece of legislation has been passed. and bearin legislation has been passed. and bear in mind, this is the third conservative law on channel crossings in the last two years. but the first thing they're going to now do is write another £50 million check for rwanda . £50 million check for rwanda. >> well, with us in the studio now, we have leader of reform uk , richard tice, who doesn't think rishi sunak is the man to stop the boats . why is that? you stop the boats. why is that? you don't think it's going to be? >> no, because we've seen it, haven't we? this year already some 6500 have crossed the channel this year. and tragically, when he talks about it being a deterrent, we hear

the tragic news this morning that another five people, including a very young child, has died in the channel this morning. i believe that's 14 so far this year. >> that's not because of his policy . because we haven't. it's policy. because we haven't. it's absolutely no, we haven't got the policy exactly that. >> we've known for two years that this was supposedly going to be a deterrent. and yet they are still taking this perilous journey. more people are dying because it's not a deterrent, because it's not a deterrent, because they know. >> they know even richard carroll, not an operational policy yet, but in theory, anybody can be returned right . anybody can be returned right. >> who is currently be sent to rwanda, who's currently coming across. they're not they know that the prospect of it is so remote that it's not a deterrent. this whole thing is flawed. so here's what's going to happen, right? because they know it's not a deterrent. the migrants know it's not a deterrent. so many people here know it's not going to be a deterrent. what's sunak is going to do? this is going to determine his whole election strategy. we are now preparing for a general election on thursday, the 27th of june.

really? or or the 4th of july? i'll tell you why. >> hang on. let's go on. because if he lets these flights take off and i'm right that the boats keep coming because it's not a deterrent, all of a sudden, these hundreds of millions are wasted. >> all these years are wasted. we've got over 100,000 people. so his whole strategy , if it does. >> but what if it does deter them? >> no, we know it won't deter them. we don't know that. >> we do know that because people are dying, people are literally dying today. >> the law passed last night. >> the law passed last night. >> it hasn't started yet, but the whole point of all of these people supposedly, who are coming across now could be moved to rwanda. they're not they know it's not going to happen. it's not a deterrent. people are dying. so here's where see, he can't take that risk. so he's going to advance it. and that is absolutely clear to us. that's why we're saying get ready for a for a summer election. >> and john hang on. let me ask you this richard tice. you will fear that because you're not not at all. you're not ready. your party. be ready. do you have candidates in every parliamentary constituency, every single seats, every single one. >> what about the ones?

>> what about the ones? >> what about the ones you've had to kick out because they were weird? >> how many more people applying? >> what about the ones you've had to kick out of the tory party? >> sexual weirdos. >> sexual weirdos. >> come on. no, let's talk about party sexual weirdos. >> is that what you want to talk about? >> not my weirdo. not my party, by the way. but, you know, you've got to kick out quite a lot of people. you're not ready. you're not ready yet. have you got the money ready? have you got the money ready? have you got the money ready? have you got the money? >> we've got the candidates. we've got the money. how much money have you got? i've got we've got enough money to run a good election campaign members, have you got to knock on more money coming in. >> never told us how many members you've got, how many members. >> and why should i? >> and why should i? >> because look, what we say is growing up, we know how many lib dems the membership is growing rapidly. and we've got you never tell us how many because it's true. >> how many? how many. >> how many? how many. >> we're standing 630 candidates across england, scotland and wales. >> okay. how many seats you think? >> well, the more people who vote for us, the more we'll get. i mean, you must have an i have got a good fortune teller in our party, but i'm not a fortune teller, so i can't make prediction. >> but this would be. but this could be a powerful message on the doorstep. we're the only party with a policy to turn back the boats. labour don't have

one. they're just going to say, oh, we'll get to grips with the gang. oh, labour's can you say labour's going to do is try and deal with the people smugglers. >> that won't make any difference in the same way, if you take a drug dealer off the corner of a street, he's replaced by another drug dealer, so that won't stop the boats. sunak not stopping the boats. the only kind, compassionate policy is pick up take back. they should be doing that now and people will stop dying. that's why our policy is the only policy that could do that how. >> now. >> they would. yes we can do that because we're legally entitled because they haven't got the leadership and the guts and to do it. and the courage to do it. >> tony abbott in >> tony abbott did it in australia. pushed back. he australia. he pushed back. he got load of flak from the got a load of flak from the lefty lawyers and the international institutions. >> would to leave >> but he would have to leave the echr no you don't, carol. >> you just have to do what you're entitled to do. under the united nations convention on the law of the sea, 1982, i've read the treaty. i know how it works. >> if the election is in june or july, what role does nigel farage play for reform uk? >> a very good question. well, that's why i mean, you know he's got to make a decision rapidly. what is the more the merrier is what i keep saying to everybody. the more the merrier . what is the more the merrier. what is the job you've just highlighted. it's a big job. i do absolutely it's a big job. i do absolutely i do not know. >> funny enough, i do not know. >> funny enough, i do not know. >> you're going to be the first to find out.

>> come on, come on. >> we want to hear it. >> we want to hear it. >> to be fair, nigel doesn't know he was here yesterday. >> he said he doesn't know. >> he said he doesn't know. >> i think he's going to be spending quite a lot of time in the united states with his mate, donald trump. >> well, let's wait and see. but you see, if it's a summer election, then maybe he could do both, right, very interesting. well, there's richard tice there. we're going to have a summer election, actually. let's just get on with it. >> you said it would have to be declared in two weeks. >> time to hit the 27th of june. it would have to be declared by. yes, by sort of mid—may. >> or it could be 5th of july. >> or it could be 5th of july. >> or it could be it could be the thursday, the 4th of july. >> and you really claim you're ready for. absolutely. >> we're ready. bring it on. >> we're ready. bring it on. >> we've done that. he's saying he's a robust richard tice who claims he's got the money. >> the members who won't tell me how many members he's got or who the money is from. but there we are. that's his commitment. this is britain's newsroom. alex has got your weather a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello. very good morning to you. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office . many of us will the met office. many of us will see some decent sunshine today, although in the southeast here

there is quite a bit of cloud and also some drizzly rain . this and also some drizzly rain. this pushing in across eastern parts of england this morning. feeding into parts of east anglia and towards london and kent. as we head towards the afternoon, some showery outbreaks across parts of the southwest . otherwise lots of the southwest. otherwise lots of the southwest. otherwise lots of places having a dry day, particularly across northern england, northern ireland and scotland. lots of sunshine and blue skies here. a bit of a west east split in our temperatures in the east. pretty cool at times. temperatures just about getting into double figures, milder or warmer further west with lots of places in the mid, possibly even high teens. any drizzly rain across parts of the southeast will clear away as we go through this evening, leaving a largely dry night and largely clear skies . two as a largely dry night and largely clear skies. two as a a largely dry night and largely clear skies . two as a result, clear skies. two as a result, with the clear skies and some cold air making its way across the country, we are going to see temperatures taking a bit of a dip, so there will be a bit of frost around first thing tomorrow morning, particularly where we have some lengthy clear skies and away from eastern parts, which are going to be a bit blustery as we go into tomorrow. so watch out for some blustery winds in the east, and

also some fairly frequent showers, which could turn a bit heavy across parts of east anglia and perhaps towards kent. elsewhere. again, lots of fine sunny weather around . just 1 or sunny weather around. just 1 or 2 showers to watch out for, but plenty of blue skies yet again. temperatures a little bit lower for many of us, so really feeling a bit cool considering it's the middle of spring by that warm feeling inside. >> from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> so up next we're going to be talking china and spies with former leader of the tory party in duncan smith. now, after a parliamentary researcher was oh, sorry, i messed that up. this was all after a parliamentary researcher was arrested for allegedly being a chinese spy very young guy. and him and another young guy have been arrested. >> this is britain's newsroom

>> it's 10 am. on tuesday, the 23rd of april. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and me. karen millom. >> well, victory for rishi. his rwanda bill at last has passed through parliament. but will those flights ever get off the ground, because of course, he hopes to get them by july. >> and happy saint george's day. red crosses will fly high as crowds gather across england today to celebrate their patron saint. we'll be live from a knees up in dartford. >> yes, we're here in dartford to celebrate saint george's day, where the community is really getting into the spirit of it all here today. starting off in the boozer like you do and then heading out onto the street a little bit later on. >> yes, at lunchtime we're going to see a parade of 700 schoolchildren come through dartford high street. we'll bnng dartford high street. we'll bring you all the latest here. >> and our chinese spies are threat to the united kingdom .

threat to the united kingdom. police have charged a parliamentary researcher with espionage. how serious is the threat? >> trump on trial . the >> trump on trial. the president, porn star and the payments. donald trump's hush money trial against stormy daniels begins with allegations he tried to corrupt the 2016 election. >> i'm glad we're celebrating saint george's day. >> well, it's interesting, but he never came to england. >> i know he didn't. >> i know he didn't. >> i know he didn't. >> i know he was turkish. >> i know he was turkish. >> yeah, exactly . >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> and did he slay a dragon? >> and did he slay a dragon? >> no. >> no. >> probably not. no. died in palestine. >> but still. we need a patron saint. they go mad about saint patrick's day . they go mad about patrick's day. they go mad about saint andrew's day in scotland, saint andrew's day in scotland, saint david's day in wales. so let's let's get behind it. and gb news is. what do you think ? gb news is. what do you think? send your views and your posts and your comments by visiting gb news. com forward slash your save. but first, here's your news with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, andrew. good morning.

it's 10:01. i'm >> thanks, andrew. good morning. it's10:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . we start in the gb newsroom. we start with some breaking news. at least five migrants have died after their small boat got into difficulties off the french coast overnight. the incident happened off wimereux beach near boulogne, before 2 am. a number of other migrants were rescued, with at least one now critically ill in hospital . gb news can ill in hospital. gb news can reveal that another five small migrant boats are attempting to make the crossing from france . make the crossing from france. one of the boats left a beach near calais at first light this morning, and is currently being escorted by a french border force vessel. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says it shows we need urgent action to tackle small boat arrivals, shows how dangerous these boat crossings are. >> they put lives at risk and they are undermining our border security and criminal gangs are making huge profits from these dangerous boats, and from putting lives at risk in this way. and that's why we urgently

need proper action to tackle these dangerous boat crossings . these dangerous boat crossings. >> this morning's incident in the channel comes just hours after the government's flagship rwanda bill finally passed through parliament. the prime minister called it a landmark law promising that nothing will stand in the way of flights getting off the ground. the bill designates rwanda as a safe country, allowing the government to deport asylum seekers there. illegal migration minister michael tomlinson says it's an important moment, keen to see things happening as as soon as possible. >> the prime minister set out and made it very clear that it's going to take 10 to 12 weeks for the first flight to actually take off and to get off the ground . but you're right, last ground. but you're right, last night was a momentous occasion. we were told that the bill would never pass, that we'd never get it through, and the prime minister was determined to ensure that we got the bill through. and we did that last night. and shortly after midnight, i found myself standing at the bar of the house of lords and listening to the final speeches there, where they confirmed that the bill was

actually going to go through. it's a landmark moment and an important moment for this rwanda scheme. >> meanwhile, the home secretary is echoing those comments as he prepares to discuss illegal migration with his italian counterpart . counterpart. >> today is a landmark moment in our plan to stop the boats the safety of rwanda bill has, james cleverly says italy is one of britain's most crucial partners in tackling the shared challenge. >> as he prepares to discuss efforts to stem illegal arrivals from north africa, he'll visit the italian coastguard headquarters in rome and he'll become britain's first government minister to visit lampedusa , where around 110,000 lampedusa, where around 110,000 migrants landed last year. lampedusa, where around 110,000 migrants landed last year . the migrants landed last year. the prime minister will announce britain's largest ever package of aid for ukraine as he travels to berlin and warsaw . the £500 to berlin and warsaw. the £500 million pledge comes as the prime minister warns that vladimir putin will not stop at the polish border if his assault on ukraine is not stopped. he says the funding is part of a

central defence for britain and all of europe against the russian president's brutal ambitions. the funds will cover new weaponry, which will be delivered as quickly as possible in response to specific requests from ukraine's government . in response to specific requests from ukraine's government. in the us, donald trump will appear in court on day two of the first criminal trial of a former us president, the court has already heard. prosecutors claim that the former president orchestrated a criminal conspiracy to corrupt the 2016 election. they also allege that payments made to an adult film star, so—called hush money, were in breach of the law. donald trump denies any wrongdoing. the case could complicate mr trump's path to an election rematch against president biden. but former nevada republican chairwoman amy tarkanian says it won't hamper his campaign. >> he still campaigning? you better believe it. and even though he has a gag order, which he has a tough time following, he has a tough time following, he , from what i understand,

he, from what i understand, behaved today inside the courtroom . but as soon as he courtroom. but as soon as he stepped outside the courtroom, he had addressed to the media and continued to open his mouth and continued to open his mouth and complain once again . and complain once again. >> and britain's roads are in a miserable state of disrepair amid a surge in pothole related breakdowns. that's according to the rac. the company's head of policy , simon williams, says new policy, simon williams, says new figures suggest vehicle breakdowns rose by 9% in the last year due to a large number of potholes. the insurer says it's to led more than 27,000 call outs to breakdowns in the year to the end of march. that compares to just under 25,000 in the year before. the cost of fixing the problem across england. wales is estimated at more than £16 billion. and for the latest stories , sign up to the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts. now it's back to andrew and . carol.

back to andrew and. carol. >> it's 1006 with britain's newsroom in gb news with andrew pierce and carole malone. well, ever since 2022, when priti patel was home secretary first signed, the deal we've all heard is rwanda this, rwanda that. but after months of deadlock, the bill to deport asylum seekers has finally passed through parliament in the early hours of this morning. parliament in the early hours of this morning . rishi sunak has this morning. rishi sunak has said the first flights will leave by july, but how likely is that? >> yvette cooper seemed doubtful when she spoke with gb news this morning. >> the problem with the scheme, and bear in mind this is those announced two years ago. they told us they were implementing this two years ago and they have just kept writing checks to rwanda. so with every step along the way, they simply write more checks. the first thing that they're going to do now that this latest piece of legislation has been passed and bear in mind, this is the third conservative law on channel crossings in the last two years. but the first thing they're going to now do is write another £50 million, check for rwanda .

£50 million, check for rwanda. >> okay. let's talk to gb news political editor now, christopher hope. chris. hi hi, hi. >> hi, carol. hi, andrew. >> hi, carol. hi, andrew. >> it's good to see you. tell us, tell us your thoughts on what's happening with rwanda . what's happening with rwanda. >> well, yeah, we finally got there, as you say. and goes back to priti patel. as andrew was saying there when this first idea came about, we heard emergency legislation from the prime minister back in november. but then oddly, it just took nearly five months to get through parliament, far slower than , say, emergency terror than, say, emergency terror legislation. there was a gap before easter in parliament. they could have forced it all through. then a month ago that didn't happen. but finally we got there. we are expecting king charles to sign off the safety of rwanda bill later today . of rwanda bill later today. royal assent means it becomes an act. and then the clock starts ticking on the first flights, taking off 10 to 12 weeks. we're told by the prime minister yesterday. that's because each one must be tested in court.

individual claims can say it's not fair or unfair. my human rights if i go to rwanda, so we'll wait and see how it how it plays out. the pm has made very clear that nothing now should stop these flights taking off. and he wants a regular drumbeat, a regular rhythm of flights taking off. he wants you and i not to be discussing it on tv at the top of the hour, on gb news every hour as we are doing, he wants it to be a regular thing, several hundred taking off each week to make it harder and harder for to labour act the scheme if they win power. the problem he's got is the clock is ticking on the next general election, probably in november, and labour say they will act a scheme, even if it works . scheme, even if it works. although, interestingly, today on gb news, yvette cooper said that they would look at other or if they worked other other offshoring processing schemes. so they're not averse to the idea , but just not rwanda. idea, but just not rwanda. >> chris, we just had richard tice on on the programme and you just said there now you thought the election might be in november. he is convinced it's

going to be called in the next two weeks. what do you think? >> listen, i'm on tv. i can't be too firm on this, but i think i think almost certainly not. i won't say i'll eat my hat, but i find that i find that almost unbelievable. if you listen to what the pm said yesterday and andrew and carol, he said he wants a regular rhythm of flights taking off from july . flights taking off from july. why would he call the election in two weeks and risk losing the entire scheme altogether, mps are not saying mps. last night i was with saying that if he calls an election imminently, there'll be an immediate vote of no confidence in the pm. rishi sunak they want someone. two of them said they want six months more pay for him because they fear losing their seats. i mean, why why? well seriously, i think there'd be a revolution. the tory party were the pm to go for an early election, and it makes no sense to me when you've got the opportunity of a second budget in september , when they budget in september, when they can cut taxes, they can wait. i

mean, why go now? why go early and then go to go to a catastrophic defeat? >> he explained it, didn't he? >> he explained it, didn't he? >> five points behind when you can wait . can wait. >> all right chris let's thank. so that's chris. we've got dame andrew jenkins here. experienced senior mp former sir andrew you you support the rwanda bill. are you support the rwanda bill. are you relieved it's finally got through. >> well i, i didn't vote for it last night. if you remember i was i remember 12 rebels. yeah. and i didn't support it last night because i can't be a hypocrite because this gets watered down further. >> so i abstained because it's not tough enough for you, is it? oh, gosh. >> no. exactly and. and i think robert jenrick abstained as well on this. >> what would you want? how would you have toughened it ? would you have toughened it? >> well, right at the beginning we said we've got to come out of the echr yeah. i mean, as i've said on, could they not just ignore andrew, could they? >> not if the echr we try and get the fly out in the air and say, no, no, no, you can't go, he can just ignore it. >> he can in a short time, he can in the short term. but i think we do need to just come out of it, i mean, the lefty lawyers are going to be on

steroids. oh, stop. >> yeah, i know, well , i was >> yeah, i know, well, i was just going to say. >> do you think the bill as it is, is robust enough to stop the legal challenges or not, i mean, look, we got it checked over, didn't we? this is why, as rebels, rebelled in the first place, and it got watered down further through the lords. now, i'm pleased it's gone through and you've got to admit, the last few days, and few weeks , last few days, and few weeks, the prime minister's rhetoric has been a lot stronger on has. >> my god, why didn't he do this a year ago? >> yeah, absolutely. and i did meet with him personally , and to meet with him personally, and to say, to speak about rwanda and he just seem a lot more committed and determined this time. he to say he. no, he says he's i was pleasantly surprised . he's i was pleasantly surprised. he sees me. he's got caught waiting. >> he's got he's anticipating the challenge. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> but bearing in mind that that he has talked tougher, why didn't you then in the end put your yes peg on your nose and think i'll back it. >> why? because i can't be a hypocrite. you know, i'm one of these. i'm very black and white. and i voted against it in the first place and came out quite strong on that. it's watered down. i couldn't go against my

own. >> do you think it's going to work in its current form as deterrent? >> well , i deterrent? >> well, i mean, i don't know what else have they got? what else have they got? i hope it works. i pray it works because we need to stop the boats coming over and send a statement. >> this is going to be the tenet of this whole election battle. now, isn't it, that he's put this right at the heart of his election campaign? >> i think so, and what you said about richard tice saying the election, i'd be very surprised. yeah.i election, i'd be very surprised. yeah. i mean, you know, i've beenin yeah. i mean, you know, i've been in parliament, yesterday, etc. and, and we're not hearing that whatsoever. >> no, his theory is that because he thinks twice, his view is the boats won't work, it won't stop the migrants crossing the channel. so just go into the election saying , the channel. so just go into the election saying, i'm the channel. so just go into the election saying , i'm the the channel. so just go into the election saying, i'm the only one with a plan to stop the migrants. labour are opposed to it , will migrants. labour are opposed to it, will repeal it. so that will be the election be fought in it. but the election won't be won on foot, on the boats . election one foot, on the boats. election one and four on cost of living cost nhs and freedom of speech. >> yeah, of course, a two tier policing system. yeah, yeah. i think the prime minister needs a

six months to actually set out his stall. and as, christopher said about getting another budget coming through. yeah, yeah. >> let's talk about saint george's day because you. i'm delighted you've come out all guns blazing, i always do. >> i know patriotic town, even though saint george, as you know, is from turkey , is from turkey. >> i know, and never has slayed a dragon as far as we knew. >> no. yeah. no. >> no. yeah. no. >> but why is it important that we celebrate it, andrea? >> well, you know, i mean, the welsh celebrate . they do, you welsh celebrate. they do, you know, the irish celebrate, the scots celebrate and we don't do enough of it in this, i agree. >> the thing is, it's regarded now, isn't it? if you're patriotic, it's regarded as racist. now or nationalistic. >> and let's look at the labour party. yeah look at emily thornberry. look at some of their councillors . remember their councillors. remember thornberry, i know in 2014 she mocked the, the guy who had the flag of saint george outside their house when england were playing a football match. absolutely. >> and she's now in the shadow cabinet. >> i know exactly . and so >> i know exactly. and so i think that, you know, the arch

europhile , which is keir starmer europhile, which is keir starmer to suddenly be mr saint george. it's so disingenuous. >> i know he's put a he's put a film out today. he's almost draped himself in the flag of can we just read out andrea's tweet here this morning? >> you weren't right in there. she says. people stay through your fake patriotism. mr flip—flop keir starmer. but the red wall will not forget how you tried to stop brexit, or how some of your mps and councillors have looked down on those who celebrate saint george and all thatis celebrate saint george and all that is english. i think he read that is english. i think he read that and then put that film out because that film was not on social media. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> it wasn't, it wasn't interesting on brexit because you mentioned that, i was shocked to read in one of the polls last week ashcroft's poll, lord ashcroft's poll, andrew, the tories are not even trusted on brexit anymore. labour party are trusted . more on brexit than are trusted. more on brexit than the tories. even though sir keir starmer was the architect of the second referendum plan as as corbyn standing against me, he stood in harrogate and wanted a second referendum in a brexit seat. >> yeah, yeah, but but how did the tories lose the faith and the tories lose the faith and the trust of the people on an

issue? >> i mean, i think we need a major cabinet reshuffle, get some, you know, some strength in there, some experience, some brexiteers in there, some of them. andrea are you applying? >> you're available. >> you're available. >> look, i'm not a person that i'm too outspoken. i would never get chosen . but we need some get chosen. but we need some real experience in there and set our stall out. show the conservatives uniting into this election and actually be more conservative. we need to be tough on crime. we need to be low tax, small state conservatives kerb the spending and we can't have this two tier. >> but why? why do people trust starmer on on brexit? he has already said he would be thinking about looking into taking us back into the single market, and he said it was last yeah he market, and he said it was last year. he said that we're not taking our fair share of migrants and he would put that right. i mean, i mean, it's it would be open all hours. yes. >> i think that people are just frustrated and peter faulding politicians. and i mean, i don't get the appetite actually for labour on the doorstep. i get a

third conservative, third laboun third conservative, third labour, and it's the rest. you know the well that% undecided. >> well that poll actually last week did say that 40 even though that labour were miles ahead, 45% of them said we don't want him. there's no stone with him. can i ask , do you think the can i ask, do you think the prime minister should have said called in? the metropolitan police commission said, i'm sorry, mate, you've had a chance to sort this policing out in in the world's most capital city. what happened to gideon falter was appalling. and he's. and he hasn't even met with him. so he hasn't even met with him. so he hasn't even met with him. so he hasn't even met with gideon falter . should he be out of falter. should he be out of a job, i think completely. but i want to see carnell. don't you ? want to see carnell. don't you? >> it's another matter. >> it's another matter. >> but it's interesting that that that we hear this morning that that we hear this morning that rowley is actually supporting the officer who said that , who supporting the officer who said that, who said to supporting the officer who said that , who said to the gentleman, that, who said to the gentleman, you're getting involved. you're openly jewish. so i mean, that's you know, he's he's already people because i've come out in support of israel because i don't forget what happened in october. >> you know, women and men have pred >> you know, women and men have ripped out their stomach. it's barbaric. >> and still many hostages.

andrea in gaza. >> i mean, look at the awful email i got , >> i mean, look at the awful email i got, which was pro—hamas a few weeks ago, and people's graffitied, you know, one of my signs on my office from the rivers to the seas, have they really disgusting? absolutely pro—palestine. these people need locking up, i'm afraid. yeah. >> and what do you stop the marches, i would wait for six months. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> really, really angry. last wednesday, parliament square, for white vans, stopped on parliament square and all these pro—palestinian lobby jumped out. they had all this equipment, they stopped the traffic at peak 5:00 peak time. and the police just stood around. i'm sorry, but we should not allow any kind of march where it stops people going about their everyday lives. >> i think they're doing that. they must have been told from the top to do that. andrea. that's that's the point. completely. anyway, thank you very much, andrea. >> happy saint george's day. >> happy saint george's day. >> yes, still to come, met police chief mark rowley praises the conduct of his police officers amidst the anti—semitism row. this is britain's newsom on . gb news.

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>> 1022 is britain's news and gb news andrew pierce . and lots of news andrew pierce. and lots of people getting in touch about saint george's day. very glad about that. >> we're getting a telling off. tony says i'm sick of people saying saint george is not english. he was a saint. he's a patron saint. he doesn't have to be english, just like saint patrick was not irish or saint andrew's scottish . it's andrew's scottish. it's a religion thing. sorry, sorry, tony allison says we most definitely celebrate saint george's day. we need to be able to have some pride and be around and pride and be proud of being engush and pride and be proud of being english anyway, mark says . why english anyway, mark says. why the french are stopping the boats being launched? answer they want them to leave france and we pay them to do it. >> it's got a point. >> it's got a point. >> there is a point. and we've got the panel with us. nigel nelson, our chief political commentator and lord colville rangen commentator and lord colville ranger. you had a late night last night . i

ranger. you had a late night last night. i did have a late night because their lordships finally said yayi was it 1215? it was. >> it was 1215, look, quite rightly , we've been through rightly, we've been through a process on this, but i think it had got to a point where you're continuing to or rather the opposition, the labour benches and the crossbenchers and the cross bench peers were asking the same question. yes. and there's a definition there, the sign of madness. you keep asking and saying, expecting a different result . so we've done different result. so we've done now the legislative process . now the legislative process. yeah, the bill goes through, but i'm not sure what was trying to be achieved last night. the posturing, as you say andrew. >> yeah, that's what it was. >> yeah, that's what it was. >> the arguments had been had over the last two years. yeah. >> this is this legislation going to stop the boats. >> do you think it is a deterrent? it's part of the process to stop these boats. we all want to stop these boats. we want to see the horrible gangs dismantle , and we don't want dismantle, and we don't want them to be incentivised to come through that illegal means. and this acts as a deterrent . this

this acts as a deterrent. this proof home office research has looked at this. i've read the papers . i've looked at the papers. i've looked at the examples, the questions that are raised. it is posturing. we have all the answers as to what this will do. >> so why were they messing around then? five times? why has it taken this to long pass? if they knew the answers and if they knew the answers and if they knew the answers and if they knew it was going to be deterrent? >> i think, carol, you know, you know as well as i do that this is the opposition trying to obfuscate the prime minister, the government, the will of the government flagship on his flagship policy. he's committed to and trying to generate some political capital by by damaging the prime minister. >> now, you're very well plugged into the labour party. there were sort of posturing and virtue signalling because, as covid said, it was always going to go through . this has taken to go through. this has taken five months. we saw five migrants have died this morning. yeah perhaps if these planes had beenin yeah perhaps if these planes had been in the air, if the policy works that boat would never have set off. >> well, i think that's pretty unlikely. i mean, that's the you don't know though. no, but where we are with this, i, i'm not sure which home office document that calvi has been reading , but

that calvi has been reading, but the impact assessment and the illegal migration bill that found no evidence that this measure would stop the boats, that was the reason that the most senior civil servant of the home office, matthew rycroft, wouldn't sign it off as value for money. so with no evidence , for money. so with no evidence, you designed a policy that's going to cost half £1 billion, and that's not the way you design policy. when you do that, you have some kind of evidence that this policy will work . as that this policy will work. as far as last night went, you were deaung far as last night went, you were dealing with crossbenchers . i dealing with crossbenchers. i mean, bear in mind there are 100 more tory peers than there are labour peers. so it was a simple battle between the two parties. the tories would have won some of those crossbench peers don't seem terribly independent to me. >> nigel, if you look at their voting record, they consistently and covid is in the lords a lot vote with the labour party and the lib dems to stop the tories and you know that. >> well i mean but but as a crossbench peer that's your independent right isn't it. yeah >> but they consistently as do the bishops. but can i start

nigel. >> if, if the labour benches had had said right that's it, we're done. we understand the politics of this. the crossbenchers are entitled to their independent opinion, but it's the labour benches that are carrying the opposition through to the bill. so that's the. >> but eventually you came to an agreement, quite rightly, i think last night after five months. >> yes. >> yes. >> well, well hang on. i mean rishi sunak could have speeded the whole thing up by holding these votes earlier. anyway, i agree he should have held them up three in the morning. >> yeah, and it would have done this before easter. >> yeah, before easter anyway. but the that , it is quite right. but the that, it is quite right. the lords scrutinise the legislation often it is quite right. they put amendments down which i thought were pretty reasonable and the government should have, should have accepted ultimately the will of the commons must prevail. and that's what happened last night. and that's what labour decided to do. >> but we kind of know why they've delayed it for so long, because they think the longer the delay, the tories aren't going to be empowered. so rwanda's never going to happen and that's why they did it and they hate it anyway. >> covid, nigel was implying that you're misleading us about

this. home office. >> no, look, i've read the reports that look at other countries , how they've. countries, how they've. australia, the home office have done a lot of research, different . different. >> is it? >> is it? >> well, whenever you give an example, someone always says, well, that's different, but it is different. it is different. but they have looked at examples all over the world where there has been immigration, illegal immigration challenges and what deterrence work. and this policy looked at those. and that's where they developed this approach . approach. >> and there are there are a rwanda style policies operating now in denmark, in austria and germany. well, hang on. >> no, no, denmark hasn't done it. denmark is not doing it. >> they're going to do denmark. >> they're going to do denmark. >> they're going to do denmark. >> they're looking at they're looking at it. austria, austria is not doing it. >> italy is. >> italy is. >> denmark has just passed a law to say they can process offshore processing offshore, but they haven't gone for the rwanda, rwanda per se. >> no. i mean, in fact, they've they've passed what is effectively their illegal migration bill. so if they've got somewhere offshore, they will then go and do it. >> austria. germany has just proposed it . proposed it. >> well, i mean, they've proposed it, but none of this has happened with any country

that are doing it and the other countries that did do it. israel >> why can't we lead from the front for a change? good. >> and i think other countries will reign in. >> will they fall in behind us if it's successful? >> well then look at look at where rwanda has been used by israel and by the un. yeah, these were completely different systems . the israeli one was a systems. the israeli one was a voluntary scheme to send people there, as is compulsory. the un scheme was an evacuation scheme. design it to actually get people out of libya and the congo . out of libya and the congo. >> and that was what i think, nigel, we can all give example, but i think we have to innovate. this is a problem that many countries are facing around the world. i've been talking to friends in the states who are telling me about what's happening in new york. 180,000 illegal immigrants who are coming in there, and the new yorkers new york state is having challenges about busting the illegal gambling gangs that are funnelling people through south america. this is a fundamental problem that many different parts of the world are facing, and we will have to come up with solutions like this and try them. and i don't think saying,

well, no one's done it before is the way to go to find a solution i >> -- >>a -- >> a one off. for now, let's talk about huw edwards quitting on medical grounds . on medical grounds. >> well, i think at the end of the day, we've got to the right result here. unfortunately, you know, it's taken it's taken a while, but we can't. july compere my mental health, especially when you're a figure like i have a lot of respect for the broadcaster that huw edwards has been for this nation. yeah, he has been the face of this nation. whether we have our views on the bbc or not. he was trusted, respected for his background, where he came from. he wasn't part of the establishment. >> he isn't the point that he became a person who was not trusted. and that's right. he has been on full pay since last july and i think , you know, july and i think, you know, there's a probably a process that an organisation like the bbc has to go through and quite rightly, and sometimes there's a duty of care to him as an individual . individual. >> but at the end of the day, he has not received a payoff . it is has not received a payoff. it is for the betterment of his health, but he'll be on full pension and who knows when his contract end. >> but nigel, he had to go,

didn't he? because, you know, this is licence payers money. yes, i mean, he's at home doing nothing. >> i think i agree with calvin on this one. this is this is the best possible result in the worst possible situation. so i think it was absolutely right that he that he quits the bbc. he clearly that he didn't have a career left there. however you look at it and yes, you're right. i mean, it's one of the primary reasons has got to be if you continue paying your salary as they have been doing , that is as they have been doing, that is licence payers money. >> and you know, he while he's been off, he had actually had a pay been off, he had actually had a pay rise because of the brilliant way he conducted himself at the queen's funeral, ironically so his pay was even increased while he was . can he increased while he was. can he ever come back or is this the end for the road for huw edwards >> well, i mean, who knows? i'd have thought it's the end. yeah i guess maybe he could do a documentary about the rise and fall. >> yeah, i think there's a lot of you have to look at where people evolve. >> nobody is perfect . no, we are >> nobody is perfect. no, we are human. we will where he couldn't come back in the same kind of role because we know that that

particular weight that he was carrying for the nation and the trust he was carrying. but yes, as you say, andrew, maybe something else licence payers would say when you to that extent , you shouldn't be extent, you shouldn't be carrying on the voice that told the world her majesty the queen, and he was brilliant at that and that. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and if you say and he came from a very working class stock in a, in an organisation that is dominated by private school, pubuc dominated by private school, public school, oxbridge types. >> okay, you've got it very well. >> you've got to go now. >> you've got to go now. >> that's the panel. covid and nigel neilson, we're going to go to headlines now with sophia wenzler. >> andrew thank you. it's 1031. >> andrew thank you. it's1031. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. at least five migrants have died after their small boat got into difficulties off the french coast overnight. the incident happened off wimereux beach near boulogne, before 2 am. a number of other migrants were rescued , with at least one were rescued, with at least one now critically ill in hospital. gb news can reveal that another five small migrant boats are

attempting to make the crossing from france. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says it shows we need urgent action shows we need urgent action shows how dangerous these boat crossings are. >> they put lives at risk and they're undermining our border security and criminal gangs are making huge profits from these dangerous boats and from putting lives at risk in this way. and that's why we urgently need proper action to tackle these dangerous boat crossings . dangerous boat crossings. >> this morning's incident in the channel comes just hours after the government's flagship rwanda bill finally passed through parliament. the prime minister called it a landmark law , promising that nothing will law, promising that nothing will stand in the way of flights getting off the ground. the bill designates rwanda as a safe country, allowing the government to deport asylum seekers there , to deport asylum seekers there, and britain's roads are in a miserable state of disrepair. that's according to the rac . the that's according to the rac. the company's head of policy, simon

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gb news. >> happy. saint george's day. now people across the country are gathering to celebrate our great patron saint. we're now joined by nana, east midlands. why do i do this? come on. we're now joined by our east midlands reporter, will hollis. will hi. are people celebrating their . are people celebrating their. >> good morning. yes. well it is saint george's day here at the old salutation inn or as local people know it, the old sal day.

it is saint george's day and there are events happening all over the country, not just here in nottingham, where they are quite proud of having england's biggest england saint george's cross flag on the city council house. i'm joined by bu. cross flag on the city council house. i'm joined by bu . you're house. i'm joined by bu. you're the chairman of the royal society of saint george. why do you do this event every single year? >> well, we do it because basically we love it. we love it. we love being english and we love celebrating it. you know, the more people get involved, then the better. you know, we've had big crowds. we've had smaller crowds depending on what day of the week it is, but it's always a celebration and everyone's welcome. >> in the past in nottingham, you've had big parades, up to 5000 people, maybe a little bit of a smaller affair this year because you don't have a parade. what is it you are going to be doing here at the old sal? and what is it that you are celebrating? >> well, i invite anybody who's engush >> well, i invite anybody who's english and proud to come down and have a look, you know, and see what we do. we've got a disco on and we've got plenty of beer behind the bar there. you know, the they just had a delivery this morning to top us all up. you know. and we can

just just enjoy it. just everyone enjoy the fun. what we do. >> it's a party. you've got flags. you've got traditional knights slaying the dragon. but why does it matter right now in 2024, that we celebrate saint george's day? >> i think it's important that whoever you are. whatever country you come from, basically to, to don't lose your identity. you know, we are proud to be english, and it's as simple as that. and we like celebrating our national day. you know, we don't begrudge anybody celebrating their day . you know, celebrating their day. you know, they can do what they want. you know, it brings colour to the city. whatever you know. but we're just proud to be english and we just love celebrating it. >> i've spoken to a lot of people from the royal society of saint george, not just here, but in places like leicestershire , in places like leicestershire, across the country, in london. and the thing that they always say to me is that this is non—political. you don't have to be from a certain faith or background to be a part of this. why does that matter in celebrating saint george now? well it's important to anybody.

>> like you say, it's not all about your colour. your creed, your your religion. if you want to just come down and enjoy us, you know, if people from abroad who come to england just enjoying then to come and see what we're all about, this , this what we're all about, this, this is a good side of being english. it's not all about a lot of bad things. what, hits the press a lot. you know, these are good things. yeah. >> and thank you so much for talking to us today on gb news and happy saint george's day . and happy saint george's day. >> very much. that's good to see that, isn't it? >> i think it's terrific. >> i think it's terrific. >> there's a bit of english eccentricity that work there, but that's great and that's commendable and i like it. >> i like to see a bit of flag waving. yeah. >> and look, i was brought up a catholic boy. catholic school. we know all the saints days and saint george's day , but of saint george's day, but of course, in my catholic school we were very keen on saint patrick's day because most of the most we all did. >> we all wore the shamrock, the shamrock and have the party. >> it'd be a great chunk of shamrock on the boys school and girls school jackets, and we

poor old saint george was always overlooked. >> we need to get behind these guys. i mean, look, they're all they're all dressed. they've got they've got knights outfits on and all the rest. >> fabulous. >> fabulous. >> anyway, let's cross to dartford where red crosses will be flying high. gb news presenter stephen dixon and ellie costello are there. hi guys. what's happening? is there a party? >> good morning to you andrew and carol. really good to see you both. and happy saint george's day to you. we are here in dartford all day for you today , covering all of the today, covering all of the events and the celebrations in kent , which events and the celebrations in kent, which is, of course, events and the celebrations in kent , which is, of course, the kent, which is, of course, the garden of england. and you can see inside this pub here, the union jacks are flying high above this pub. it's been here for 300 years, george. the first was actually on the throne when this pub was built, which i think is very fitting for today. so it's the most wonderful setting to be in today. and the high street today looks even better. saint george's flag is flying high across that high street, and that's where our

very own stephen dixon is right now. how's it looking, stephen? >> yeah. thanks, ellie, for sending me out into the cold and drizzle this morning . but drizzle this morning. but everything's gearing up here. there's a few workmen still out and about, i have to say, at the minute, but this is where the parade is going to be a little bit later on today. as you can see, the flags are everywhere. people are gearing up for a really good celebration as to, marking saint george's day in a way that perhaps we haven't seen for a long time. and it's right that we do celebrate this sort of thing, isn't it? i would say so. and you never guess who you're going to bump into when you're going to bump into when you walk down a high street like this. walking on this morning. who did i see? but our very own sports guru for gb news breakfast. aidan magee. good morning. >> good morning to you. great to see you. what are you doing here today? what am i doing here? well, i have a long association with this. this town. my mum was born here 80 years ago this yeah born here 80 years ago this year. back in 1944, she was born up the hill in a road called myrtle place. she later bought

that council house from the council. one of the first early 80s sell offs. if you like . and 80s sell offs. if you like. and then, you know, i've got lots of family here and mum's ashes are scattered at watling street cemetery, just up the road. so lots of families still here. and i'm very proud to have an association with this town, even though i just live about half an hour away from here. yeah, and when you see something like this, does it make you proud to be english? well, it does actually, because i always felt it was. it was somewhere that had a very close affinity to national identity . what was very national identity. what was very interesting was when i was a kid back in about 83, 84, zola budd, you remember zola budd, the huge south african , athlete who south african, athlete who wasn't allowed to compete in international competition under the south african flag? well she was actually she actually ran her first competitive race in britain in this town, danson park , about a mile away from park, about a mile away from here in bare feet. and i think it was quite poignant that she celebrated in a town that was so patriotic , and she was greeted patriotic, and she was greeted by the locals, and it made people sit up and realise that we've got an international star

on our hands. she ran bare feet that night and of course she went on to achieve success at the olympics. >> yeah, well, there's nothing wrong with being patriotic. as we stand here. you can see if you just look over here, you can see what they call the glimmer twins. and they. so while since they, they worked as the glimmer twins, keith richards and, mick jagger, who are both dartford born and bred actually, so they're celebrated here, it is a very english place to be and a great place to for us to celebrate being english. ellie >> yeah, it's going to be an absolutely packed day, full of events at around lunchtime, loads of school children , 700, loads of school children, 700, in fact, from across 24 schools in fact, from across 24 schools in the county. they will be parading behind a large model of saint george and his dragon. and we've been told they have been busy working away in their art classes, making papier mache dragons and shields, and they are going to be parading along dartford high street, where stephen is now at around lunchtime today it will just be the most wonderful sight ,

fabulous. >> well done. and we notice how patriotically you are both dressed. yes. red, red white. stephen, i think that suit probably should have been blue, not grey, but nevertheless he looks quite. it looks great though. he looks great. >> and ellie's divine as usual. >> and ellie's divine as usual. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> there we are. now we're back with them later in the program. coming up next. britain is now the world's fourth largest exporter of goods and services . exporter of goods and services. so we say to those brexit naysayers, you were wrong . we're naysayers, you were wrong. we're going to be speaking to the export minister, lord offord, in just a moment. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news well, here's some good news.

britain has faced a post—brexit trade bonanza. as our exports shoot up, we are now the fourth largest exporter in the world. so those naysayers who said brexit was going to be a

disaster ? well, we've signed disaster? well, we've signed trade deals now with 73 countries accounting for 1.1 trillion in trade since 2022. we're going to talk now to the minister for exports , who is minister for exports, who is lord offord? lord offord, good morning to you. now i know you voted for brexit, but you were, by your own admission, a reluctant brexiteer. perhaps you should have been more enthusiastic when you voted to leave back in 2016. looking at these trade figures as well. >> yes, i was a reluctant brexiteer , but the one, the brexiteer, but the one, the factor that swung it for me was trade was a trade decision. we know that, for example, when our parents voted to join what was then the common market in the 70s, europe accounted for one third of global trade . and we third of global trade. and we know that when we left in 2019, that was 16% of global trade. and that's forecast to be 9% of global trade in 2050. so trade is tilting to the indo—pacific, to the asia, to latin america . to the asia, to latin america. and all the british people have done has made a savvy business decision to go to where the

money is and to trade where the growth is . growth is. >> so lord offord, who was ahead of us now, who were the first three top exporters ? three top exporters? >> well, the two, the two biggies, obviously us and china . biggies, obviously us and china. and then there's germany and we're now sitting in fourth place, having gone past japan, netherlands and france . and that netherlands and france. and that is a very strong performance. it's in both our services and in our goods. >> that's an incredible achievement. you know, those countries are huge, massively big countries as well. >> we have a very strong export capability we have made in the uk . as my banner says, made in uk. as my banner says, made in scotland sold the world made in northern ireland, made in, made in wales. that resonates with people , you know our so our people, you know our so our economy is now 80% services and 20% goods. okay. in terms of how people work, 80% of our workforce is in services , 20% in workforce is in services, 20% in goods, and the same in our gdp . goods, and the same in our gdp. but the fact that our exports are 45% goods and 55% services, which tells you that our goods

are good and they go around the world and people want to buy them. >> just explain as well. lord balfe what we mean. but what you mean when we talk about services, the financial sector, insurance, that sort of thing, what are the services that we're so exporting? so well, okay, so i was recently in chile. >> so we've just joined this thing called the cptpp, the trans—pacific partnership. right, last time i looked at the map, uk wasn't anywhere near the pacific ocean. but we've now got this place in this deal that that's blocked that we could not have had if we were still in the eu. chile has got the longest coastline in the world. it takes three weeks to drive from top to bottom. they've got an amazing opportunity to, to drive green hydrogen. who are the world experts in green hydrogen? the brits. so i take 12 companies down to santiago , to chile to down to santiago, to chile to help them build out the green hydrogen. right now they have got they can they will use 20% for themselves and export 80. it's a great economic opportunity for chile and our companies are going to help them now. eight of the 12 companies were service companies, so they are consulting companies.

they're the architects or the engineers, the designers . and engineers, the designers. and we've got to think more about how we sell services, whether it's education, edtech services in renewables, it services and railways. we sell consulting services, obviously financial services. so obviously the public, when we think about exports, of course we think about chocolate and whisky and jcb and that's good. that's still 45% of our of our exports. but we have to think about how our economy works and actually we are now a smart post industrial economy in services, which pays higher wages and which pays higher wages and which is now based all around the uk. >> but lord, often we keep heanng >> but lord, often we keep hearing from from the remainers that that brexit isn't working. this is a clear sign that it is. >> surely we now have data from 2018, the last good year before all this bad stuff happened in 2023, and we now can say that brexit has had a minimal impact on our trade. the biggest impact has been covid and then the associate and then the war in

ukraine and associated inflation, energy prices that and interest rates going up. and that has been the same in germany , australia and the us. germany, australia and the us. okay. so brexit is the least amount of impact. and in fact if you look at our trade and manufacturing goods to the eu, it's exactly it's traded exactly the same as the rest of the world. so really what's happened is in manufactured goods has been a massive dislocation of world trade. the biggest dislocation since second world war. okay. and it's happened everywhere . and we've actually everywhere. and we've actually come out of it very well. much better because we've got a modern service economy. >> can i ask you though, there was a poll , >> can i ask you though, there was a poll, you'd have seen it last week. i think it was lord ashcroft's poll. lord offered, which showed that the tories had fallen behind labour on every single area of policy in terms of public trust , whether it's of public trust, whether it's defence, law and order. but shockingly, labour now trusted. more on brexit. and yet you're clearly not trumpeting these success stories loudly enough. i appreciate you're on with us today, which is great, but why aren't why isn't the government shouting from the rafters the successes of brexit? >> yes , i mean, i've been in

>> yes, i mean, i've been in this job a year, so >> yes, i mean, i've been in thisjob a year, so i'm minister this job a year, so i'm minister for exports and i have to tell you , it is all i see is a strong you, it is all i see is a strong recovery and good news. and we have to get this message out loud and clear , there is a one loud and clear, there is a one part of our, one part of our pie chart is 24% of our 850 billion of exports, 24% is manufactured goods to the eu, where there has been friction, no doubt. okay. the other 76% is going gangbusters for some reason the reporting news is all about that 24% manufacturing use of the eu 27. my job is to highlight that yes, that's been difficult, but the other 76% is going very strongly and that's why i'm on your program today. >> all right. lord, we're very to good talk to you and very good to have such a good news story. that's lord offord, who is the minister for exports. and we've moved into fourth place. we've overtaken japan and france and the us as well. >> now the us is still ahead of us. >> us. >> this is britain's newsroom on

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weather >> morning. 11 am. on tuesday, the 23rd of april. this is britain's news. when? gb news with andrew pierce that's carol maloney. >> and victory for rishi as his rwanda bill finally passes through parliament. but will these flights ever get off the ground ? ground? >> channel migrant jets. five migrants die trying to cross the channel this morning, just hours after the rwanda bill passed through parliament and happy saint george's day , red crosses saint george's day, red crosses will fly high as crowds gather across england to celebrate their patron saint. >> we'll be live from anneliese up in dartford , yes. good up in dartford, yes. good morning and happy saint george's day. we're here celebrating as the clock is ticking now to the big saint george's day parade here in town, where people and lots of children as well are going to be celebrating our patron saint of england . and why not? >> yeah, the bunting is flying high outside on the high street, and we're expecting 700 children from 24 schools to be parading

behind a large model of saint george on his dragon. it's going to be a wonderful sight. >> fabulous. and quite right, too. trump on trial. the president , the porn star and the president, the porn star and the payments. donald trump's hush money trial against stormy daniels begins with allegations he tried to corrupt the 2016 election. >> we'd love to hear what you think. send your views and post your comments by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay. but first, here's the news with sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> thanks, carol. good morning. it's 11:01. i'm >> thanks, carol. good morning. it's11:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom with some more developing news coming from the english channel. this morning. a child is among five migrants who died after their small boat got into difficulties off the french coast . the

off the french coast. the incident happened off wimereux beach near boulogne , before beach near boulogne, before 2 am. a number of other migrants were rescued , with at least one were rescued, with at least one now critically ill in hospital. gb news can also reveal that another three small boats launched from an area on the site this morning . shadow home site this morning. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says it shows we need urgent action to tackle small boat arrivals . tackle small boat arrivals. >> shows how dangerous these boat crossings are . they put boat crossings are. they put lives at risk and they are undermining our border security . undermining our border security. vie and criminal gangs are making huge profits from these dangerous boats and from putting lives at risk in this way. and that's why we urgently need proper action to tackle these dangerous boat crossings . dangerous boat crossings. >> this morning's incident in the channel comes just hours after the government's flagship rwanda bill finally passed through parliament. the prime minister called it a landmark law promising that nothing will stand in the way of flights getting off the ground . the bill

getting off the ground. the bill designates rwanda as a safe country, allowing the government to deport asylum seekers there. illegal migration minister michael tomlinson says it's an important moment. >> we're keen to see things happening as as soon as possible. the prime minister set out and made it very clear that it's going to take 10 to 12 weeks for the first flight to actually take off and to get off the ground. but you're right, last night was a momentous occasion. we were told that the bill would never pass, that we'd never get it through . and the never get it through. and the prime minister was determined to ensure that we got the bill through . and we did that last through. and we did that last night. and shortly after midnight, i found myself standing at the bar of the house of lords and listening to the final speeches there, where they confirmed that the bill was actually going to go through. it's a landmark moment and an important moment for this rwanda scheme. >> meanwhile, the home secretary is echoing those comments as he prepares to discuss illegal migration with his italian counterpart . counterpart. >> today is a landmark moment in our plan to stop the boats. the

safety of rwanda bill has , james safety of rwanda bill has, james cleverly says italy is one of britain's most crucial partners in tackling the shared challenge. >> as he prepares to discuss efforts to stem illegal arrivals from north africa . he'll also from north africa. he'll also become britain's first government minister to visit lampedusa, where around 110,000 migrants landed last year. now the prime minister will announce britain's largest ever package of aid for ukraine as he travels to berlin and warsaw . the £500 to berlin and warsaw. the £500 million pledge comes as the prime minister warns that vladimir putin will not stop at the polish border if his assault on ukraine is not stopped . he on ukraine is not stopped. he says the funding is essential for the defence of britain and all of europe against the russian president's brutal ambitions . the funds will cover ambitions. the funds will cover new weaponry following a request from ukraine's government in the us. donald trump will appear in court on day two of the first criminal trial of a former us president. the court has already heard prosecutors claim the former president orchestrated a

criminal conspiracy to corrupt the 2016 election. they also allege that payments made to an aduh allege that payments made to an adult film star, so—called hush money, were in breach of the law. donald trump denies any wrongdoing. the case could complicate mr trump's path to an election rematch against president biden. but former nevada republican chairwoman amy tarkanian says it won't stop his campaign . campaign. >> he still campaigning? you better believe it. and even though he has a gag order, which he has a tough time following, he has a tough time following, he , from what i understand, he, from what i understand, behaved today inside the courtroom . but as soon as he courtroom. but as soon as he stepped outside the courtroom, he had addressed to the media and continued to open his mouth and continued to open his mouth and complain once again . and complain once again. >> and britain's roads are in a miserable state of disrepair. that's according to the rac. the company's head of policy , simon company's head of policy, simon williams, says breakdowns rose by 9% in the last year due to large numbers of potholes. it's led to more than 27,000 call

outs in the year to the end of march. the cost of fixing the problem across england and wales is estimated at more than £16 billion. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen , or go to gb news on your screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts now it's back to andrew and . andrew and. carol. >> to 1106 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and carol maloney. some more developing news from the engush more developing news from the english channel this morning, a child is among the five migrants who died after their small boat got into difficulties off the french coast. our home security edhoh french coast. our home security editor, mark white, has the latest mark. >> well, indeed, this has come just hours, really. after that, rwanda bill passed in parliament with a number of boats, we're told, that pushed off from a beach at wimereux, which is just north of boulogne . this was in

north of boulogne. this was in the early hours of this morning. now the boats got into difficulty. one is believed to have stranded on a sandbank for a while. it managed to free itself and then at some point the boat capsized. there was some kind of movement on board. there are reports that a young child, a young girl, may have been trampled to death in the panic on board this boat as well, and four others, three men and a woman, also died. those who were rescued were taken ashore. a number of those taken to hospital. but despite this tragedy, still the boats keep coming . another five small boats coming. another five small boats pushed off early this morning, but for are still in the water. one has had to turn back off those four that are in the water, two have now reached uk waters, which means , of course, waters, which means, of course,

as is routine, they're picked up by border force vessels and returned to dover. we're told that the border force, vessel defender has picked up the those on board one of those small boats , probably around 50 or so. boats, probably around 50 or so. that's usually the average number on a boat, another boat has just made it into uk waters. so you're looking already at about 100 who have crossed so far today. the other two boats cross as well. we could be looking at 200 today, on the day after this rwanda bill passed in the commons . the commons. >> all right. that's mark white, our home security editor. the irony is, at pat cullen, just hours after the bill was finally passed in parliament, 1215 this morning, just a few hours later, that boat would have set off. >> and, you know, we've had 6225, i think, so far this year. and we're not even in the hot weather yet. or we're going to have many, many more people coming. >> we really are. we're going to talk now to the labour mp graham

stringer. morning, graham. good morning to you. morning, can you your reaction first. this is terrible news. this is now 14 migrants that we know of so far have died this year. they're just the ones we know about crossing the channel >> well, it's always a tragedy when people die, and particularly when there are children involved. but i think it highlights the fact that i don't believe this bill will work. the taxpayers will get a big hit in their pockets from trying to implement the bill, but people who are willing to risk their own lives and their children's lives to cross the channelin children's lives to cross the channel in order to come to the united kingdom are not going to be put off by the 1 in 100 chance, possibly of being sent to rwanda . to rwanda. >> graham, you say it won't work is probably. but that's about the best the government have

got. rishi sunak resting all his hopes on this because he says he thinks it will be a deterrent. why don't you think it will be a. is that because there's just so few will be able to go and thousands are trying to cross ? thousands are trying to cross? or perhaps rwanda isn't such a terrible place after all. >> well, i think partly won't work because people who want to come here will avoid being , come here will avoid being, captured as, as it were , and captured as, as it were, and arrested when they arrived. people are very determined. and whatever is put in place, they're likely to avoid it. it's also going to be very expensive, but the basic thing is, are is the desire to come to the united kingdom, stronger than their fear of being deported to rwanda. and most of the evidence is that if they're willing to face a hazardous crossing, then their their fear of rwanda is

less than wanting to come to this country. i actually think that the government are doing this. it's a gimmick. they are timing it for to look as though they're doing something before they're doing something before the general election. so i think it's a gimmick, a political gimmick . and it it won't work in gimmick. and it it won't work in the medium to long term. and the government should have been doing this previously. most of us, whether conservative, labour or any other party, get into politics. so we can change and improve the law. the government have not really done anything because the law that is at the centre of this, that is making it difficult is international law, and there is a belief that you can't change these laws. well, i think the country has to start talking about it. jack straw, 25 years ago was talking about changing some of these laws, like the european convention on human rights laws

set up with well meaning after the second world war in the early 1950s and late 1940s and no longer fit for purpose. it doesn't mean to say we should ignore human rights, and we should stop being as humane as we possibly can be. but the those laws are not enabling to us do what we want to do. >> so are you what i mean, are you suggesting that we somehow disentangle the human rights act from the european court of human rights? >> i'm not. i don't have an exact solution, but i think we should start negotiating with other countries and say, look, this is not doing what it says on on the tin. we've gone from a situation in, after the second world war where a huge numbers of refugees in europe , of refugees in europe, countries, had failed the jewish population in germany and other

countries. and so there were laws set up which said this shouldn't happen again. but that isn't what's happening now. people are coming from all over the world. many of them economic migrants, using very different criteria that weren't dreamt of in the early 1950s to claim asylum in this country. and i think so. graeme, are you saying, look, do i have in my pocket a solution? i don't, but i think we know it's not working, so we should try and change it . change it. >> so are you saying that when labour get in, that's what you'll do. you will change the human rights act >> yes. i think we should start changing the human rights act. it always sounds difficult because it's got such a great title . who's against human title. who's against human rights? nobody. but actually, when you look at the detail of it, it isn't really doing what it, it isn't really doing what it says on the tin. i don't think what some of the conservatives are saying, that we should just unilaterally withdraw . so i don't think

withdraw. so i don't think that's the solution either . but that's the solution either. but we should be able to change laws that are not enabling us to do what we want to do as a country. >> but labour are very fond of saying that the rwanda bill won't work. why don't you give it a chance to work? i mean, we've seen what's happened this morning. and you keep on saying it's not going to be a deterrent, but we don't know that because because it hasn't been tested or tried yet . been tested or tried yet. >> you know, that's self—evidently true . i obviously self—evidently true. i obviously don't know. there is a certain level of prediction in it, but taking a common sense view of the risks involved and the desire, i don't believe it will work, graham, we've been talking today on gb news about saint george's day. are you a firm patriot? your leader has been draped himself in the flag of saint george today. in a social media clip, he says labour mps should embrace the flag of saint george. is he right? >> yes, in essence he is. i've spent many, the 23rd of april at

saint george's day luncheons, which i've, enjoyed the one doesn't have any choice about where one is born, but i'm proud to be english. proud to be british, and enjoy celebrating a national symbol. >> very good. all right. that's graham stringer. he's the mp for blackley and broughton in greater manchester. always good to talk to you. >> still to come the story we're both interested in pearce more struggles for meghan markle as her podcast is pushed back. >> no. >> no. >> is it really? >> is it really? >> we'll be discussing that and more

next. >> all the time 1118. with britain's newsroom on gb news. with andrew pierce and carolyn. the panel are back. >> that's good. >> that's good. >> welcome. covid. >> welcome. covid. >> ranger. lord coleridge and nigel nelson. >> and, nigel, you're going to

start, aren't you? we're going to the roles. sir mark rowley, head of met police this morning, has defended that officer who accused that man of being openly jew as gideon falter the other day. >> yeah, but my instinct was that mark is right on this one. >> no, of course your instinct is . is. >> well, look, we share so few instincts , nigel. we do indeed. instincts, nigel. we do indeed. yeah >> reason being. is that what the officer was trying to do in an extremely clumsy way, which, hence the apology which was right, is to say to gideon falter and unfortunate person, you know, he would have chosen the worst possible jewish person probably in the country to be having an argument with because obviously , gideon falter is an obviously, gideon falter is an activist with the, with the campaign against anti—semitism. anyway, what he was trying to do was say, look, this could kick off this could be dangerous. i'm trying to actually, provide you from any kind. >> hang on. >> hang on. >> in doing so , i'm going to >> in doing so, i'm going to insuh >> in doing so, i'm going to insult your religion in trying to head off. i mean , the reason

to head off. i mean, the reason he said he was openly jewish is he said he was openly jewish is he is because he was wearing a yarmulke. so it was entirely entitled to do. of course, he is. >> it's not is.- >> it's not a is. >> it's not a question of his entitlement or anything like that. entitlement or anything like that . and he's perfectly that. and he's perfectly entitled to be. they're perfectly entitled to cross the road, if he wished, totally entitled to walk straight through that palestinian protest. the point that the officer seemed to be making was that if you do that, i can't guarantee your safety . guarantee your safety. >> but why can't he? because that's the point. why can't the police guarantee the safety of jewish people on london streets if there's not enough officers on those marches, get more out there to protect. call them off and all the rest of us, or call them off. >> well, not call the march off, but i mean, carol's point about about have more officers out there. absolutely but you're deaung there. absolutely but you're dealing with a situation in real time where there weren't enough officers where where this sergeant wasn't sure he could actually guarantee. i understand that, gideon. >> you called it. >> you called it. >> yeah . i just want to say this >> yeah. i just want to say this to him. but you say it was

clumsy. what was appalling? he allowed that gideon fall to be racially abused while he was speeding. i could hear people calling him nazi scum. he didn't once remonstrate with those fanatics , those anti—semites, fanatics, those anti—semites, and say, that's a hate crime. you're arrested. >> he let them carry on again, you're back into the same situation about did were there enough police there to do that job? >> that would be an arrestable offence. and i think that's absolutely right. but in the situation he was presented with and, you know, all we've seen is thatis and, you know, all we've seen is that is that video which mark rowley says is not quite the full story. >> well, they always say that. >> well, they always say that. >> well, they always say that. >> well, it may or may not be. >> well, it may or may not be. >> this is placating agitators. this is placating people who are likely to hate crimes, calling people nazi and skunk. >> yes, i think the real challenge here is we're continuously being told that these marches are safe, that they're peaceful. then why is there this worry? why was this officer so concerned about this safety of this individual? so that's the first part of it, the safety issue. secondly the

openly jewish point , we can say openly jewish point, we can say it's clumsy, nigel, but police have been now involved in this situation for months. and months and months. there is no reason to be clumsy in dealing with the situation. it's not the first time. it's not the second time. yes, the gideon himself is a bit of an agitator. he obviously allowed to be. he's allowed to be. but the police should now be able to handle this situation, you know. where does it stop? doesit you know. where does it stop? does it stop? well i'm openly sikh or you're openly black or you're openly this. you're openly that you cannot be having that kind of culture within the met. >> can you imagine anyone saying that to you? you are being openly seek there would be outraged. >> exactly. i can't imagine it if it did happen, there would be out. >> oh, to a muslim woman wearing anyone a hijab or to a guy wearing a suit. >> on this day where we are celebrating saint george's day and everything, that is great about england and being in this

country, one of the great things is our freedoms that we have here. we acknowledge everyone. we have an inclusive country. we all respect each other. we can't have our police who police with our consent, being clumsy in this kind of environment isn't pubuc this kind of environment isn't public safety the safety more important? >> but the public safety is important is the principle. >> you can't have a turban or a skull cap being provocative, being seen as provocative, and the people who see it as provocative have to be arrested, nigel, not the people who are wearing. >> i agree with you, but but within the circumstance that that sergeant was operating means you always placate the agitators. >> that means. and the only people who broken people. >> yeah. the only people who broke the law were the ones who abusing . that's why the police abusing. that's why the police officer was talking to him and nothing was done to them. yes. he carried on saying, move away, or i might have to arrest you. >> that was wrong. and we know thatis >> that was wrong. and we know that is wrong, which is why the met police, that's incompetent, inept, and the metropolitan police commissioner is embraced it. >> well, but the met then apologised and the apologise apology was probably the worst part as well because that that

completely , wrecked any chance completely, wrecked any chance that they had, but when it comes down to what the. i'm thinking about the officer at the time and what was going through his head and what you would then do. >> i agree with you, but this is let's take it away from the opposite. it's the organisation. yes. okay. the act of dealing with the situation, the act of then responding to it. you talk about context. this is a constant context. this is a surprising one off incident. this is happening every weekend. so i can't accept when you say, well in this context, this is the context that they're dealing with. they need to deal with it better. >> well, and it may well be that they need more police officers out there , but in this out there, but in this particular case, there weren't enough people around to go and deal with the situation that might have kicked off. >> if they can't deal with it, then they have to say to the home secretary, we have to call these marches off. yes, they have the power and they should do that if they're not safe. >> exactly. that's the point. >> exactly. that's the point. >> we've got to move on now to something much, much less

serious, meghan markle's podcast. >> are you saying that's not serious? meghan markle's podcast i >> -- >> what are you suggesting? i might be saying that. i mean, really, it's been pushed back as her company struggles to get started. >> come on, nigel, take that away. >> yeah, what has happened here is that meghan markle was going to get a podcast out , and she's to get a podcast out, and she's instead going to be concentrate on her netflix series, the netflix about making strawberry jam. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yes. it seems to be what it will involve, cooking, gardening , entertaining and friendship. whatever. >> actually, what does she know about the latter ? about the latter? >> well, i'm crazy about it. doesn't sound like a terrible all the other two. >> yes. >> yes. >> cooking a terribly exciting tv series one way or another. but anyway, she was a radical feminist . meghan markle a feminist. meghan markle a feminist. meghan markle a feminist can cook. yeah, but i don't think that's what you'd expect a radical feminist website program to be about cooking. >> that was a ridiculous thing you just said there, pierce. i mean, because so why is it being pushed ? pushed? >> so is it. what's the netflix

is taking over from the podcast. it's they need the money. >> busy with. >> busy with. >> he's busy with that and of course they've still got the 100 million that they had from netflix . right. and really this netflix. right. and really this is the last hurrah to see if they can make it actually work, which they haven't been up until now. how. >> now. >> this is to do with her private company, isn't it? this is her own company. >> i think this is there was peak meghan and harry when they arrived in california, and they're really struggling to get they're really struggling to get the content because, look, it's all about content . if you want all about content. if you want to have people listening to your podcast, the clicks , the you've podcast, the clicks, the you've got to have something interesting to say. and originally it was, well, they were royals and they were something going on with the royalty. now it's jam. what now it's jam tomorrow, which is jam tomorrow or gardening. >> i've been doing it for years. >> i've been doing it for years. >> how many pots of jam do you think she's going to have to make to pay for all harry's legal expenses? i know quite a lot. >> is it? is the point, really, covid that unless they're bitching about the royal family, there's no there's nothing. there's no way they can monetise. >> i think the monetisation of the family, criticism of the family, harry's pain at what's

been going on. yeah. you know, but there was only going to be so much road that they're going to have with this. where do they go. and they have to define themselves for the future. what are they now in this hollywood world? and it seems like there's some brand riviera or something or there. and that's a very crowded . market. yeah. you know, crowded. market. yeah. you know, there are many people doing that, isn't it? >> that's the truth, isn't it, nigel? we are only interested in what they've got to say about the royals. >> i think so, yeah. i mean, the whole thing is that if you're offering 100 million, £100 million. yeah. to go and do something. what do you want to hearis something. what do you want to hear is some dirt on the royal family. what goes on inside gossip inside the royal family. what happens and i think calvi is right that they came to the end of the road on that one, that having done what they did, having harry done the book . having harry done the book. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> nobody's going to tune in to netflix to see her making a pot of jam . of jam. >> but you remember when they got together, they were going to save the world. the pairs. i'm going to end world poverty. she was going to fight for feminism. yeah, yeah. and they're not doing any of that now because they have to make money now. yes, you have to make a buck now. and this is this is how

they're doing it. >> do you think do you think they've realised they've they've made a terrible error and they're now desperately trying to reinvent the wheel. >> i'm not sure they'll accept that. they've made an error. i don't think that they're i think they're going to be doubling down and doubling down again on more strawberry jam or whatever it is , and more gardening and it is, and more gardening and whatever it takes until they find an audience and they might find an audience and they might find an audience and they might find an audience. you never know. but it's going to be a journey that's going to be interesting. >> in the states , they're >> in the states, they're ridiculed in a way they never were. >> their credibility , their >> their credibility, their credibility. you become, you know, whether you're a—list , know, whether you're a—list, it's very quickly you slip down that alphabetical to order get to a different point in the in the sort of alphabet of c plus at the moment i would think. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> but still with the royal family, it's prince louis sixth birthday today. yes. now, what we've got to say about that and we've got to say about that and we should wish him a happy birthday. >> but no, but there is no photo i >> -- >> there is already a controversy. and andrew, you got it right right there. normally that you'd expect a photograph of, of louis, so far there's no embargoed photograph being put out to the press. so it looks like we're not getting one. and

of course, we're five weeks away from the controversy that princess kate caused by the mother's day photograph. no. >> look, look, i think we have to remember , for, you know, the to remember, for, you know, the princess well, is wales is unwell. sure. this family. >> somebody else could take the photo. yeah, they going through a lot as a family, i think. >> let's ease off. yeah. no, whatever happens here. but no photoshopping , you know, just photo. >> you know, i read a nice little story last night, and i. and i'm sure kate will still do it. she has a little, little thing before all her children's birthdays. at midnight the night before their birthday , she bakes before their birthday, she bakes them a birthday cake, and she doesit them a birthday cake, and she does it on the stroke of midnight. so it's the midnight after their birthday happens, and she makes them a cake and they know it's coming . but when they know it's coming. but when they know it's coming. but when they get up in the morning, that's wonderful. >> you know, what we feel from them is that they're very hands on parents. yeah they are. and i say this as i've got a boy who's going to be six soon as well. yeah. and we're currently working out what party we're going to do. it sounds like football is going to be the theme. there's a lot of hands on parenting that goes on, and a lot of time, but they're a remarkable family considering the pressure they're under . and the pressure they're under. and as i say, with her being unwell

at the moment, i know let's all cut them some slack. >> and do you think does that mean they get cake for breakfast on birthday? >> who doesn't get cake for breakfast? i never do, you know . breakfast? i never do, you know. >> you know. no, you would on birthdays because cakes was holidays and holidays. we got the cake in the evening. >> yes, but tea ? >> yes, but tea? >> yes, but tea? >> yes. with your tea. >> yes. with your tea. >> it was a fondant fancy. >> it was a fondant fancy. >> yes, i remember the fondant. fancy. we're showing our age. >> you'll remember them too, nigel. what colour did you have? >> like? oh, it was pink . >> like? oh, it was pink. >> like? oh, it was pink. >> brown. oh, i'd have had yellow. i've had a blue one. i did everything in blue. well that's when i was. >> if i was lucky, my mother would always get me a fresh cream cake. oh, i love. >> right. >> right. >> and what was your birthday cake, melanie. >> oh, i never got one, i just did, i just sent out such a hard done by him up the chimney . done by him up the chimney. >> up the chimney with oliver twist. please. can i have some more? >> we were skint, you know, as you were. you were. >> you were. >> we were skint as kids. >> we were skint as kids. >> yeah, but that's why we only got cakes occasionally. yeah, not. >> not all the time now and not for breakfast. >> hey. thank you. you too. it's great to see you both. >> this is britain's newsroom. sophia wenzler has got the .

news. >> andrew. thank you. it's 1130. >> andrew. thank you. it's1130. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom now. a child is among five migrants who've died trying to cross the english channel after their small boat got into difficulties off the french coast. the incident happened off wimereux beach near boulogne just before 2 am. a number of other migrants were rescued, with at least one now critically ill in hospital. gb news can also reveal that other three small boats launched from an area near the site. this morning. latest figures show the number of migrants crossing the channel has increased by 24% this year. this morning's incident comes just hours after the government's flagship rwanda bill finally passed through parliament. the prime minister called it a landmark law, promising that nothing will stand in the way of flights getting off the ground. the government expects charter planes to depart for rwanda within 10 to 12 weeks, though

ministers have conceded that numbers on board will be small . numbers on board will be small. in other news, the prime minister will announce britain's largest ever package of aid for ukraine as he travels to berlin and warsaw. the £500 million pledge comes as rishi sunak warns that vladimir putin will not stop at the polish border if his assault on ukraine is allowed to continue. he says the funding is essential for britain's defence against the russian president's brutal ambitions . the funds will cover ambitions. the funds will cover new weaponry following a request from ukraine's government and britain's roads are in miserable state of disrepair. that's according to the rac. the company says breakdowns rose by 9% in the last year due to large numbers of potholes. it's led to more than 27,000 call outs in the year to the end of march . the year to the end of march. the cost of fixing the problem across england and wales is estimated at more than £16 billion. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code

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clearly in britain something might be going, why aren't they? >> why don't these ministers talk it up? we were talking to the export minister, lord offered her, and he said, there was a poll last week showing the tories aren't trusted on brexit anymore. why don't they sing up from the rafters when there's something good to talk about now? >> yeah. no, there is some good economic news. and of course inflation now as well is lower inflation now as well is lower in the uk than it was in the united states . yeah, but we united states. yeah, but we don't hear so much about that, perhaps because the government prefers to talk about votes that it can barely win. eight minutes past midnight last night, the house of lords finally relented. i know you've been talking about it. we've got our very own katherine forster, who's been travelling with the prime minister over to poland. we're going to be speaking to her in the program to see what the prime minister has to say about all of that debacle, but also, frankly, what's this, 10 to 12 weeks about? >> well, yeah. why do we have to wait so long? >> why hasn't more been organised? >> yeah. why don't you get the paint up now? >> send. >> send. >> so it'll be being sent to the king right now. it will be by

the end of the week, certainly, that it gets royal assent, but we don't know whether it happens today, tomorrow, thursday. i would imagine before. >> i assume it's all to do with the anticipated challenge from the anticipated challenge from the human rights lawyers of whom? one of whom we'll be talking to in a little bit. >> i do know that one of the issues that ministers were thinking about, because one of the questions is, why haven't you identified those who can go on the flights initially? i know one of the concerns from ministers is one of these lords amendments was about stopping the kind of people who could go on the plane. so if you don't know how the bill is going to be amended and you don't know what the final shape of the bill is, you can't necessarily identify those that are going to be heard. >> i think i read this morning that the first detainees have already been identified , the already been identified, the ones that are going to be shipped off. so that's that's not what michael tomlinson said earlier. he didn't seem to be able to answer the question. that was rishi this morning in the papers saying that they've already been identified, which i thought was odd because once they're identified, you can then

stop them going, yeah, well, we've got the an airfield is currently on hold waiting for these planes , chartered planes these planes, chartered planes booked apparently, although we don't know which airline private airline it is. >> so there are still some big questions to answer that. but also, could we be having courts in pubs? >> i was going to say we don't want to talk about this rwanda plan for three hours solid. so we are talking about pub justice, it's a it could be an interesting one. pubs are always an inquest, always pubs. >> you go to a pub, everybody's got a view on everything in it. >> a judge standing behind the bar. >> do you want to be sentenced by someone who's had ten pints of beer? no, no. >> do you want the jury to have had the beer though? >> that's the point. yeah. no, no, no, that is well absolutely not. >> no no no, it would take an instant dislike for him. you'd be damned for ten years. >> you would. charming. >> you would. charming. >> not until he got out of the aba. >> okay. exactly. that would do it. >> that's all that more in midday for now, though, you're with britain's newsroom on gb news. we're going to be talking to lord dannatt about rishi sunak and ukraine and the military aid. he's talking to britain's newsroom listening to britain's newsroom listening to britain's newsroom listening to britain's newsroom or watch .

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it's 1139. you're with britain's it's1139. you're with britain's newsroom. when? gb news andrew pearson, carole malone. well, we're sending a record package of military aid to ukraine. £500 million boost for the war effort. >> the supplies will include some 400 vehicles, 1600 munitions and 4 million rounds of ammunition. >> how big a threat is vladimir putin? is this aid really necessary? we talked delighted now to talk to general lord dannatt, the former head of the british army, lord dannatt. good morning to you. the prime minister is on his way to poland, a two day trip. and he's saying very pointedly that putin may not stop at the border with poland. is he a significant threat if he wins this war in ukraine to other countries , ukraine to other countries, andrew, most definitely he is. >> i mean, i think that's why

supporting ukraine for the ukrainians to blunt putin and russia's aggression is really, really important , you can't really important, you can't believe a thing that putin says about not having any further intentions, i was in lithuania 2 or 3 weeks ago where i can tell you that all those around the baltic are extraordinarily worried about, further aggression from putin. so, so supporting ukraine. and this package is really, really important. it's an important package. but of course , it's package. but of course, it's a small package in comparison to the very large package that the us congress is now by way of passing. but, but all that together, this is important support to ukraine and that is vital in our european interests. >> lord dannatt people would say, because you say it's not a very big package this year it's been it's 3 billion or it's going to be 3 billion. but a lot of people here at home might say, you know, we keep being told that our own services, our own military doesn't have enough equipment. but this is the you think this is the right thing to do ? do? >> it is the right thing to do, but also the point that you're

getting at is also the right thing to do. we need to increase our defence spending overall, not just to support ukraine, which, as i've already said, is very, very important, but also to make sure that the united kingdom's armed forces are at a sufficient level of capability that we can play our role. a significant role, a major role, within nato in europe to deter further russian aggression. >> lord dannatt you said in you said in a piece recently that i think you wrote for the daily mail , you think you wrote for the daily mail, you said that the uk is now in the last chance saloon. what did you mean by that? >> well , the last chance saloon >> well, the last chance saloon is the place where we don't want to be for too long. we can get out of the last chance saloon if we increase our defence expenditure. there's a lot of talk, jeremy hunt in the spring budget, talked about going to 2.5% of gdp when conditions allow keir starmer . and the allow keir starmer. and the labour party has said the same. and that's a start. but it's only a start. there's a strong case to say that we should be

increasing from 2.2 through 2.5 to 3. now that would be a significant increase in our defence budget to give us the aircraft , the ships and aircraft, the ships and particularly the land forces that we lack at the present moment so that we can make a real contribution to deterring war. and this is the whole point. we don't want to be in the business of fighting a war. the costs of that are disastrous. you probably heard me say before looking back to the 1930s, in 1935, we spent less than 3% of gdp on defence, and that didn't stop hitler. but by 1939 it was 18, and in 1940 it was 46. that's the disastrous cost of fighting a war. what we need to do is pay the premium to deter war. and we're currently not paying it. >> just briefly. lord dannatt are we still a major military power , we have slipped back from power, we have slipped back from being the significant military power that we were, but with this increased investment, we can get back to where we should

be, which is the leading military power within nato in europe. >> all right. that's lord dannatt, who is the former head of the army. we're going to talk now , moving on to the human now, moving on to the human rights lawyer, david haigh , rights lawyer, david haigh, we'll talk to him. he joins us now. david hey, you're a human rights lawyer, so how much are you going to make out of this rwanda bill when they try and get the flights in the air, will they be beating a door to your beating , a path to your door, beating, a path to your door, the migrants, so they can't be deported ? deported? >> yeah. good morning to you both. i mean, first of all, andrew, i won't be doing any cases on this by myself, but you're quite right in the suggestion that a lot of lawyers are going to be making a lot of money. >> i think it was always inevitable that this was going to pass . now it's inevitable to pass. now it's inevitable that it's going to end up in court battles in our domestic courts, but also in after those in the international ones. and quite as i said, a lot of lawyers will be rubbing their hands and perhaps ordering their porsches because there's going to be a lot of legal battles. now. >> david sunak attacked what he

called leftie human rights lawyers. but surely what these lawyers. but surely what these lawyers are doing, they're encouraging people to make that crossing and risk their lives . crossing and risk their lives. >> i think you've got there are some there are there are obviously some lawyers. we've seen some cases of lawyers coming forward where they have done the wrong thing and they've been found to have broken the law in doing things similar to what you've suggested. but of course , at the end of the day as course, at the end of the day as well, the majority of lawyers do just follow the law effectively and would advise their clients on that. so you can't blame lawyers for everything. >> we know that some of the lawyers are giving are telling people to say what they need to say to get into this country, that they're tortured, that they've been victims of slave labouh they've been victims of slave labour. that is. yeah, that that's that's wrong. >> it's breaking the law. they shouldn't be doing that. it's breaking not just professional ethics, but it's breaking the law and it's putting people's lives at risk. so that is absolutely wrong. you're correct. absolutely wrong. >> can i just ask you finally, david, you've seen a lot of migrants and refugees. are they all on legal aid ?

all on legal aid? >> and a lot of them are. and that's the problem that you i think one of the main problems that you have with the legal aid system, and i've seen it a lot, a lot of people that should be getting legal aid don't. and the ones that perhaps shouldn't do and a lot of the people, if not the majority of the people that you're going to see with the cases that go forward. now, these test cases, both in our domestic courts and elsewhere , domestic courts and elsewhere, are going to be looking looking at either being funded by legal aid or other charities. so it's going to cost the taxpayer even more what comes now over the next few months. and sticking on the court point as well, the courts don't sit all of the time between now and the next general election. they take pretty much all of august off, all of september off and holidays between. so we've probably got about ten weeks, 11 weeks of actual english court time. so if that's stuck to and these things aren't going through on an emergency basis , we've got a emergency basis, we've got a problem with the amount of cases that need to go through , for, that need to go through, for, for this law to work. >> fascinating .

>> fascinating. >> fascinating. >> okay. all right. >> okay. all right. >> david, that's david haye, the human rights lawyer. now, still to come, it's saint george's day, and we're very happy about it. >> yes it.- >> yes , we it.— >> yes , we i'm very it. >> yes , we i'm very happy, even >> yes, we i'm very happy, even though we don't think he did slay a dragon. saint george and he didn't ever come to england, which is a bit of a shame, but he would have liked it had he come. >> he would you. with britain's newsroom on

gb news. >> happy saint george's day now people across the country are gathering to celebrate our great patron saint. we're now joined by our east midlands reporter, will hollis. hi. will what's happening? >> hello. yes. we're live from the old salutation . it has just the old salutation. it has just this second started raining, the winds coming in. but that's the perfect day to fly the saint george's cross and saint george's cross and saint george's day. this is the royal society of saint george in radford, nottingham. we've got dave and we've got rob . just

dave and we've got rob. just describe for me. why are you guys dressed up as knights here? is this a permanent position? >> this happens every year in the 23rd. and we are very, very proud to be picked to lead the parade. now the parade is finished for a bit. we always meet here in all the lads and girls turn up . we have a good girls turn up. we have a good time here. >> and is this your own costume? do you rent it or is it always in your wardrobe? >> it's my own costume . the wife >> it's my own costume. the wife owns it and hangs it up in the wardrobe. >> why are we here today, though? why does saint george's day still matter here in nottingham on the 23rd of april? >> because we're very patriotic and we want to keep the identity of being english going as long as we can. as we can. >> as we can. >> and where do we think that identity is now? are people still proud to be english? are you proud to be english? >> yeah, of course we wouldn't. we wouldn't be dressed like this. >> but yeah, we're very proud to be english. >> everyone here, we're going to be celebrating the pub all day in the old cell, as you just mentioned. so yeah , we'll be mentioned. so yeah, we'll be having a great time. >> and what do you want? people who maybe don't think that saint george's day is a good idea or

aren't proud to be english? what do you want them to know about these kinds of events and why you do them? >> well? please come down and just enjoy the day. i'm sure you'll enjoy it. there's no trouble, you know, we're proud people. we're we're nottingham mainly , but there's lots of mainly, but there's lots of visitors come to see us. so yeah, we'll have a great time. >> and what about you? do you want people to come down here and do you think maybe we should even have a bank holiday? it's a tuesday, right now. what are we doing here at the pub? >> bank holiday? that's the next agenda for us. that has got to be done. everybody else gets a bank holiday for their parents sins, but we don't. we love the cell, the sajid javid period. dave put us all in that pub together. have a nice breakfast. >> and what about that massive england flag that you've got in the market square? >> that's brilliant. but the biggest, biggest in the land. and everybody's proud to go past that. you get a tingle up your spine. there's something wrong with you. english and proud , with you. english and proud, it's only just gone past 12:00. we know that this party is going on all day long after i'm gone. but it is saint george's day, and i think they've got one thing that they do want to say

to you. gb news. >> happy george's day . hey >> happy george's day. hey >> happy george's day. hey >> very good. george. in my whole life . rafe taoiseach whole life. rafe taoiseach ultimate . ultimate. >> keep me english. keep english to my da day. >> very patriotic . well done, >> very patriotic. well done, well well done. well, i want to be there. i think saint george's day is a great thing. it should be a bank holiday and scrap the bank holiday on may day. may the 1st which is just some old cockney thing. >> why can't why can't we have both? >> cos they're expensive. malone to who? it's not expensive to you. >> to employers, it'd be another encouragement. don't you want people back at work? not. >> we have 3 million people that aren't working at all. so an extra bank holiday for those who want to bank holidays in may. >> already we don't need to. we have george's day. >> all right, well, you work on all the bank holidays. we'll be interested to see if you say anyway, that's. oh we actually. yeah. have we got emails ? yeah. have we got emails? >> come on. yeah, yeah, anne says we can't allow the excuse of there aren't enough police if we haven't got enough police to police, the marches must be stopped.

>> yeah, and to protect borders. rishi got the rwanda bill through on saint george's day. is rishi the new saint george ? is rishi the new saint george? says charles. he could be if he has a workable follow through . has a workable follow through. >> could be slain by a dragon. >> could be slain by a dragon. >> well, and also, of course, the first planes not going till july. >> yes, i know, i don't know why it's taking so long. >> well, i think i think that's that's it from you because that's it from you because that's it's been lovely to be working with you. >> thank you. i enjoyed ipsis and bev turner is back tomorrow up next though is good afternoon britain with tom and pip. >> we've got a huge show coming up as of course the rwanda bill was passed finally last night. our correspondent is travelling with the prime minister to poland. she'll be getting the idea of what the prime minister thinks is going to happen next, but also reaction to those tragic deaths in the channel this morning. >> we also want to know what you think about pub justice. now what is it? >> well, it's this suggestion that to tackle the huge backlog in the courts , judges could sit in the courts, judges could sit in the courts, judges could sit in pubs in public libraries,

coroner's inquests could take their take place there as well. what do you think about the idea? i'm thoroughly in favour. >> all that after your weather. >> all that after your weather. >> all that after your weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. it should brighten up for many northern areas through the rest of the day, but it will remain fairly cloudy in the southeast . fairly cloudy in the southeast. that's because a weather front has been pushing along the southeast throughout this morning. that's bringing those cloudier skies. it's fairly weak feature by the time we get to this afternoon, but it will continue to bring quite a lot of cloud around to many southern areas of england and the southeast. that's where we could see some drizzly rain, particularly along the coast. elsewhere, it should stay dry through this afternoon and there will be a good deal of sunshine for north and western areas. northern ireland, western scotland, northwestern wales as well seeing highs of 15 or 16 degrees. so in the sheltered sunshine, not bad at all. but if

you are exposed to this northerly wind along the east coast, you're certainly going to nofice coast, you're certainly going to notice a chill in the air. and there will be quite a bit more cloud around these areas as we lead into tonight as well. that cloud will continue to pull in off the north sea, keeping skies a little cloudier all along the east coast. we'll continue to see some cloud, mainly across parts of wales. southern england too , but across the north—west, too, but across the north—west, clear skies will lead to another very chilly start . we could be very chilly start. we could be down as low as minus four really, so a bit of a patchy frost is expected for western areas throughout wednesday . it areas throughout wednesday. it will be a chilly start but quite a bright start. there'll be more in the way of sunshine, but still much of the sunshine will be restricted to western areas of the country and the far north, while the east still have this onshore wind, bringing in more in the way of cloud and the risk of showers and that chillier feel. so temperatures closer to 8 or 9 in the east and closer to 8 or 9 in the east and closer to 8 or 9 in the east and closer to 15 in the west. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news.

weather >> good afternoon. britain it's 12:00 on monday, the 23rd of april. >> five people are dead attempting to cross the channel to the uk. just hours after rishi sunak's flagship rwanda bill passed in parliament. we'll have more on that. plus analysis on what happens next with the deportation flights to kigali . deportation flights to kigali. >> the number of alcohol specific deaths has reached a record high, driven by a high surge in the number of booze related fatalities among middle aged women, experts say it's down to the pandemic . down to the pandemic. >> also, happy saint george's day red crosses are flying high as crowds gather across england to celebrate their patron saint. but would you like it to be a

bank holiday