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hello i'm caitriona perry. you're very welcome. hamas says it will send a team to egypt on saturday, in the latest negotiations on a ceasefire and hostage release deal with israel. the group said, "it's determined to secure an agreement in a way that fulfils palestinians�* demands." the wall streetjournal is reporting that israel is giving hamas one week to accept the current deal, orface a ground invasion of the city of rafah. egypt, qatar, and the us are once again facilitating the talks. israel wants dozens of hostages returned home, and a temporary ceasefire before it resumes its mission to destroy hamas. as our security correspondent frank gardner explains, hamas wants guarantees of a permanent withdrawal of israeli forces and an end to the war, something israel has not shown
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willingness to accept. everyone�*s waiting for the hamas team, the cia director william burns is reportedly in cairo and that's very important because us support cairo and that's very important because us support for cairo and that's very important because us support for this deal has been crucial. another sticking point in all this is that hamas want a commitment by israel that the fighting stops. israel that the fighting stops. israel won't give that commitment, partly for political reason, partly for military reasons. it believes that hamas, the remaining four battalions of hamas are hiding out in rafah below ground and tunnels and that the leader of hamas, the military leader and the architect of the october seven massacre is amongst them. hiding out there, possibly even surrounded by hostages. so the israeli military want to go in and finish thejob, israeli military want to go in and finish the job, now a
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cease—fire deal would certainly postpone, if not shelve that rough a military operation altogether. hamas are taking their time in responding, and i think they will want some reassurance that they don't give up hostages and then immediately find themselves coming under massive attack that isn't much of an a sudden incentive to them. meanwhile, turkey says its suspension of trade with israel, over the country's offensive in gaza, will remain until a permanent ceasefire is established because of the worsening humanitarian situation in the palestinian territory. the turkish trade ministry said all imports and exports would stop until the israeli government allowed an uninterrupted and sufficient flow of aid into gaza. earlier, the israeli foreign minister, israel katz, accused turkey's president, recep tayyip erdogan of behaving like a dictator. our senior international correspondent orla guerin is in istanbul well, in the last few hours, president erdogan has been meeting with a group of businessman and he spelled
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out his rationale a bit more. he said turkey was taking this action to force israel. those are his words, to agree to a ceasefire and to allow more humanitarian aid into gaza. he said he wasn't chasing after conflict that he wanted, in fact, to avoid further conflict in the region. and he insisted that israel was doing the right thing. now, he is somebody who positions himself as a global defender of muslims, and not only muslims here in turkey, but also the palestinians in gaza. so he party wants to be seen as defending them. he is also trying to impose a diplomatic blow on israel, a commercial blow on israel, which gets about 30% of its cement from turkey, but we can't leave out the domestic political context here. and we had elections across the country at the end of march local elections. now, those were bruising for the president's ruling party, it really was hammered. and analysts here believed that in part, that was
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because as far as some turkish voters were concerned, he simply was not tough enough on israel. he has been waging a war of words in recent months, accusing israel of being a terrorist state and of carrying out genocide, but he hadn't taken any action until now. well, now we have the action, and now turkey is carrying out a war on trade. gaza is one of the most dangerous places in the world to be a journalist. around 100 journalists have been killed by israeli strikes since the war began according to the committe to protectjournalists. one in tenjournalists in gaza have died. it's world press freedom day, when those killed in the field are remembered, and the importance of a free press around the world is encouraged. unesco has awarded the press freedom prize to palestinian journalists covering the war in gaza — in recognition of their reporting and sacrifice in dire conditions. but it isntjust in gaza where press freedom is threatened. according to the latest research from reporters without borders, the environment forjournalism is defined as "bad" in 75% of the countries it ranks.
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earlier i spoke tojodie ginsberg, ceo of the committee to protectjournalists. let's start today of all days by discussing the journalists who have paid the highest price of all for doing their work, those have been killed, in particular those in gaza. 97 journalists killed since october 7th there. you mightjust talk to us a little bit about the work thatjournalists are doing in gaza, why it's so challenging and why it's so important. it's challenging because nowhere is safe in gaza. for seven months, gazan journalists have been living the war and trying to document the war. they've been going to hospitals and of course we see hospitals bombed. they've been going to refugee camps, and we've seen refugee camps bombed. in addition, there are examples where journalists have been targeted. we know of at least three and we think there are more, so journalists are also being directly targeted for working as journalists, and of course they are suffering all the deprivations that the rest of the civilian population is suffering
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for lack of food, lack of fuel, lack of shelter and of course after this period of time, equipment is beginning to degrade, and it's important to remember they are the only people documenting the war as journalists. no international have been allowed into gaza except on tightly controlled tours by israel. the eyes and ears for us as the international community are local palestinian journalists. 320 journalists are behind bars, how does that impact the freedom of the press when journalists are not locked up like that —— locked up like that? it has a huge impact on freedom of the press, it sends a powerful message
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to otherjournalists that this might happen to you, if you carry on reporting on the government, if you carry on reporting on authorities, we may come for you and we've seen a direct, the direct impact in places like russia which has detained the us journalist evan gershowitz, we have seen international news organisation start to reconsider whether they wanted to put people into the country. it has a really deep, chilling effect. we seen the same in hong kong with the detention of the media entrepreneurjimmy lai, a british citizen. that has a wide effect on the broader media. it's not the arrest of one journalist, it's what it does on a wider aspect. we can look at the freedom index here, you can a lot of red there. the us in orange have dropped ten spots in the last year, what's the correlation between freedom of the press, free media and what it means for democracy in any of these countries? freedom of the press is fundamental to a democracy and in fact the way that we treat media, freedom of the press is often
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a leading indicator of what's happening to democracies worldwide. we have seen an uptick in the killings ofjournalists, arrests of journalists, harassment of journalists notjust in traditional authoritarian regimes but supposed democracies. that is indicative of a broader decline we've seen in democratic norms worldwide. ok, lots more to discuss but we'll leave it there now, jodie ginsburg, thank you. us university campuses have seen intense protests over the past few days — in some cases leading to confrontation. police have arrested more than 2,000 students nationwide since demonstrations escalated on monday at columbia university in new york. 137 colleges and universities saw students hold a protest orjoin an encampment in the last month and 30 are holding their commencement — or graduation — ceremonies this weekend. some student demonstrators have criticised police tactics as aggressive. i spoke to former commissioner
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of boston's police department, ed davis. ijust want i just want to ask you, we've seen over 2000 student arrests, we've seen some scenes of violence, we seen other campuses with complete camp. what at what point do authorities decide when it's appropriate to call in the police? appropriate to call in the olice? . �* , appropriate to call in the olice? . v . appropriate to call in the olice? ., �*, ., , appropriate to call in the olice? . �*, ., , police? that's a very good question. _ police? that's a very good question, and _ police? that's a very good question, and it's - police? that's a very good question, and it's all - question, and it's all individual to the institution, to the circumstances surrounding the protest. there are some campuses that i've spoken to that field that there not too much destruction occurring, so they are just going to let them stay there. there are other campuses that believe that they can't continue with the shape and form of the protest, so they have to do something about it. and it all depends on the level of, sort of, allowing people to express themselves unfettered, and what their activities are
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window there. 50 and what their activities are window there.— and what their activities are window there. so what actually marks out _ window there. so what actually marks out at — window there. so what actually marks out at the _ window there. so what actually marks out at the point - window there. so what actually marks out at the point you - marks out at the point you cross that line from the right to protest into the point where you are impinging on others' rights to their education or to access buildings and so on? i'll give you two examples. harvard yard in cambridge, i've been there recently, i've had friends and professors walk through the encampment and it's a relatively small encampment. it's all students, there are no outsiders there. and they have members of the student body who are acting as monitors to the event. so they are very well behaved and are not upsetting the normal course of business, so they are allowing them to stay. conversely, when you see some of the protests that have happened in other parts of the country, you out and ucla and california, they are have been warring groups at each other
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and there have been physical violence that occurred before the police were there, there were two groups that were attacking each other with sticks and bottles and there was a little risk to human life at that fight so the police were brought in and attempted to stop it. those are the two extremes. and in the middle are decisions being made by university presidents all over this country is to how far they can go with these protests. you mentioned _ can go with these protests. you mentioned ucla _ can go with these protests. you mentioned ucla there, the peaceful student processors who had been there for several days said it was an outside group of agitators that arrived and began attacking them first. does not immediately change the dynamic when you have outside groups involved? it dynamic when you have outside groups involved?— groups involved? it certainly does and — groups involved? it certainly does and that _ groups involved? it certainly does and that is _ groups involved? it certainly does and that is certainly - groups involved? it certainly| does and that is certainly the case in many of these protests that go bad. if you get a large number of people, agitators who are looking for a fight, they are looking for a fight, they are looking for publicity and a video of them fighting and tussling with the police,
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that's when the trouble starts. there have been cases like in the northeastern university encampment that was broken up a few days ago where it was a very orderly process where the police came and slowly they talked to each individual protester and the protesters were reviewed to leave and said they wanted to be arrested and they wanted to be arrested and they were arrested without any difficulty. on the other hand, at emerson college recently here in boston, the protesters all locked arms, the police had all locked arms, the police had a very... sort of low—key conversation with everybody saying we might support some of yourideas saying we might support some of your ideas but we've been ordered to clear this particular public way and you're going to have to leave, do you mind doing that? and they said no, and they chanted, they said no, and they chanted, they locked arms together and then the officers had to try to remove them. and anytime physical force remove them. and anytime physicalforce is being used on one side, it tends to increase one side, it tends to increase on the other side and a scrum occurs. ., ., , ., , occurs. you mentioned people filmina occurs. you mentioned people filming themselves _ occurs. you mentioned people filming themselves as - occurs. you mentioned people filming themselves as well-
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filming themselves as well there, given the development of that what we've seen in recent years, our police particles adequate now for dealing with these types of scenes, or is more training required, do they need to be reviewed?— need to be reviewed? there needs to — need to be reviewed? there needs to be _ need to be reviewed? there needs to be a _ need to be reviewed? there needs to be a constant - need to be reviewed? there i needs to be a constant process and review of tactics. i've talked to police officials across the country in the last few weeks and everybody is struggling with this. there are controlled processes that are dependent upon the protesters, but when the protesters want to fight, the question is, how far to the police go? do they use the requisite force and demand that they leave, that they back off every once in a while, do they try to use back channels to communicate? all of those strategies are being put in place. the problem is, if you have someone who wants to fight, whether it's a single arrest or a mass arrest, it looks ugly, and the police look like they are using too much force. that's always a perception no matter what they
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do. so, believe me, there's a constant process of review. people are looking at it across the country, but nobody is coming up with any really easy answers here. we coming up with any really easy answers here.— coming up with any really easy answers here. we have to leave it there for _ answers here. we have to leave it there for the _ answers here. we have to leave it there for the moment, - answers here. we have to leave it there for the moment, but. answers here. we have to leave it there for the moment, but edj it there for the moment, but ed davis, former boston police chief commissioner, thanks for joining us on bbc news.- joining us on bbc news. thank ou. so where do anti—war movements on campus go from here? well, four universities defused tensions and shut down encampments peacefully using alternatives to police force. administrators at northwestern, brown, rutgers and the university of minnesota agreed to come to the table — and discuss protesters' demands. brown's board will hold a vote on a divestment proposal in the fall. student protestors are calling on the university to business in israel or aid the country's war effort. minnesota protesters were able to set up a meeting to address the school's board directly. two other agreements, at northwestern and rutgers, include scholarships or aid for palestinian students. they also promise to provide improved space for muslim students. rutgers also said it
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would expand an existing relationship with a university in the west bank. students involved in encampments will get some level of amnesty in the deals they secured with administators. but the schools said they'd still investigate reports of bias, harassment or dicrimination. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at another story making headlines. the conservative party have suffered a major blow in friday's local elections, as the labour party made significant gains across england and wales. the elections — widely considered the last major test of public opinion before the uk's general elections later this year — showed the tories losing considerable support. here's prime minister rishi sunak and labour leader sir keir starmer reacting to the results. obviously it's disappointing to lose good hard—working conservative councillors and i'm grateful to them for all their service and local government,
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keeping council tax low and delivering services for local people. what this by—election shows is that the country wants change. this is a very clear divide now, we had 14 years of failure and decline, we've just chaos and division from the tories, people want to turn the page on that and go forward with labour and their positive plan for the country. labour also picked up the new regional mayor for york and north yorkshire — which covers rishi suna k�*s constituency. you're live with bbc news. the uk's foreign secretary, david cameron has promised to support ukraine's war effort for as long as necessary. on a visit to kyiv friday, he pledged three billion pounds — or 3.75 billion dollars — per year. he also said ukraine has the right to use british weapons to strike targets inside russian take a listen. in terms of what the ukrainians do, in our view it is their decision about how to use these weapons, they are defending their country, they were
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illegally invaded by putin and they must take those steps. we don't discuss any caveats that we put on those things but to be absolutely clear, russia has launched an attack into ukraine and ukraine absolutely has the right to strike back at russia. those comments — and others by western leaders have caught the attention of russia. president putin's spokesman, dmitry peskov, condemned the remarks as a �*direct escalation.�* he also spoke out against france�*s president, emmanuel macron, who once again refused to rule out potentially deploying french troops to ukraine. in an interview published on thursday, he said... mr peskov said such statements could jeopardise the whole security architecture of europe. how the west should deal with russia�*s military aggression is something poland has also been grappling it�*s called recently for the creation of a �*heavy
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brigade�* of eu forces to respond to crises outside the bloc�*s borders. and on friday, polish president andrzej duda marked the anniversary of the country�*s constitution, saying poland�*s most important goal is to build a strong army to deter attacks. i�*ve been speaking with poland�*s foreign minister about all of this, radeck sikorski. i went to stay with those remarks from president duda. he also described russia as a voracious monster, in dragon, and said poland�*s most urgent task in modern and strong army. how would you characterise the threat to poland from russia now? ~ ., , , now? we hope president putin wouldn't be — now? we hope president putin wouldn't be so _ now? we hope president putin wouldn't be so reckless - now? we hope president putin wouldn't be so reckless as - now? we hope president putin wouldn't be so reckless as to l wouldn�*t be so reckless as to attack and nato member state, but he was reckless enough to attack ukraine and was condemned for it by the un general assembly, and is now indicted as a warm —— war criminal. indicted as a warm -- war criminal-—
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indicted as a warm -- war criminal. ., ., ., criminal. he would not rule out anything. _ criminal. he would not rule out anything. he — criminal. he would not rule out anything, he said, _ criminal. he would not rule out anything, he said, when - criminal. he would not rule out anything, he said, when it - criminal. he would not rule out| anything, he said, when it came to sending foreign troops to ukraine, do you agree with that? i ukraine, do you agree with that? 4' ukraine, do you agree with that? ~ �* , ., that? i think it's right to make putin _ that? i think it's right to make putin wonder- that? l think it's right to| make putin wonder what that? l think it's right to - make putin wonder what we that? i think it's right to - make putin wonder what we will do, and not all is to assure him that we will do certain things. i appreciate his strategic audacity. when you consider sending _ strategic audacity. when you consider sending polish - strategic audacity. when you i consider sending polish troops into ukraine? we consider sending polish troops into ukraine?— consider sending polish troops into ukraine? we are not going to 0 en into ukraine? we are not going to open our— into ukraine? we are not going to open our cards. _ into ukraine? we are not going to open our cards. let's - into ukraine? we are not going to open our cards. let's let - to open our cards. let�*s let president putin wonder what we will do. �* , ., i. will do. but in terms of your own president _ will do. but in terms of your own president saying - will do. but in terms of your own president saying the . will do. but in terms of your i own president saying the need to bulk up the polish army, that�*s... to bulk up the polish army, was - -_ to bulk up the polish army, that's. .. . , , that's... 0h, we are spending the biggest — that's... 0h, we are spending the biggest proportion - that's... 0h, we are spending the biggest proportion of- that's... 0h, we are spending the biggest proportion of gdp in nato, 1t% of the biggest proportion of gdp in nato,1t% of gdp and we might go higher next year, it is an essential hub for helping ukraine and i�*m very grateful to the us congress and president biden for passing at last the supplemental that will help ukraine. ukraine also desperately needs anti—aircraft missiles to protect its industry, protect its power
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stations, to protect its infrastructure. also, what the us congress passed is a bill that would pass the frozen russian assets to ukraine, i think it�*s much better to spend the money on protecting ukraine then on having to rebuild it. speaking of those actions that the us congress took and signed into law by president biden, do you think the delay in getting to that point harmed relations in any way?— to that point harmed relations in any way? well, it would have been better— in any way? well, it would have been better to _ in any way? well, it would have been better to have _ in any way? well, it would have been better to have had - in any way? well, it would have been better to have had it - been better to have had it passed earlier. but... the average is already on, the equipment is on the way. ukraine has no announced mobilisation. i think president putin would be well advised to regard his invasion as a mistake and to make a new calculus that we are in it to help ukraine for as long as it takes. ~ ., .., help ukraine for as long as it takes. ~ ., , help ukraine for as long as it takes. ~ . , ., .,
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takes. what can bring an end to this war though? _ takes. what can bring an end to this war though? only - takes. what can bring an end to this war though? only putin's . this war though? only putin's 'udument this war though? only putin's judgment that _ this war though? only putin's judgment that the _ this war though? only putin's judgment that the cost - this war though? only putin's judgment that the cost lies i this war though? only putin's judgment that the cost lies in treasure is not worth the ultimate objective. it�*s how all colonial wars end. but obviously he needs more time for that and we need to show our resolve. i5 for that and we need to show our resolve.— our resolve. is there any role for diplomacy _ our resolve. is there any role for diplomacy here? - our resolve. is there any role for diplomacy here? there i our resolve. is there any role l for diplomacy here? there are no shortage — for diplomacy here? there are no shortage of— for diplomacy here? there are no shortage of potential - no shortage of potential mediators, turkey, un, china could actually force putin to end this war, but i see no signs that putin wants to negotiate. signs that putin wants to negotiate-— negotiate. it's the 20th anniversary _ negotiate. it's the 20th anniversary of - negotiate. it's the 20th anniversary of poland's| anniversary of poland�*s succession to the eu, should the eu be doing more in this conflict? it the eu be doing more in this conflict? , ., , ., conflict? it is, and you know, when i conflict? it is, and you know, when i was — conflict? it is, and you know, when i was a _ conflict? it is, and you know, when i was a refugee - conflict? it is, and you know, when i was a refugee in - conflict? it is, and you know, l when i was a refugee in britain in the 1980s, if you would told me there would come a time that poland would be in the eu and britain would not be, i would not have believed you. but yes, the eu needs to be, get more
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serious about defence, we already have a defence budget, we�*ve spent a, 7 billion, on helping ukraine, with no past the decision to spend another 5 billion euros. the eu, actually it has helped ukraine financially more than the united states. with this supplemental income of the us is coming up to what we�*ve spent. so it�*s a good transit plan together. —— transatlantic plan. b. plan together. -- transatlantic lan. �* ., , plan together. -- transatlantic alan, �* ., , ., ., 4' plan together. -- transatlantic plan. a polish aid worker was amon: plan. a polish aid worker was among the — plan. a polish aid worker was among the seven _ plan. a polish aid worker was among the seven world - plan. a polish aid worker was l among the seven world central kitchen workers killed last month. your government has called this a murder and polish prosecutors are conducting an investigation. do you consider the is really targeting and repeated showing of that convoy which it has admitted to, it didn�*t know what individuals were in that vehicle�*s but it was an aid convoy. do you consider that to be a war crime? ~ ., ., ., , crime? we also have polish citizens among _ crime? we also have polish citizens among the - crime? we also have polish citizens among the israeli l citizens among the israeli hostages. who were killed by
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hamas, it�*s a really horrible tragic situation. poland recognises israel�*s right to defend itself but we also recognise the state of palestine. and we just hope that the anti—terrorist action would be accompanied with a political initiative to find some kind of peace between the two nations. and the convoy, the israeli army owned up to their mistakes, but that�*s not enough, they need to compensate the family. they argue that the world central kitchen also made some mistakes. i�*m not in a position to comment. [30 some mistakes. i'm not in a position to comment. do you consider _ position to comment. do you consider it — position to comment. do you consider it to _ position to comment. do you consider it to have _ position to comment. do you consider it to have been - position to comment. do you consider it to have been a . position to comment. do you| consider it to have been a war crime? �* ., . �* crime? i'm not a 'udge. but... deafina crime? i'm not a 'udge. but... dealing with _ crime? i'm not ajudge. but... dealing with terrorism - crime? i'm not ajudge. but... dealing with terrorism does i crime? i'm not ajudge. but... l dealing with terrorism does not absolve you from respecting the laws of humanitarian and the laws of humanitarian and the laws of humanitarian and the laws of war, for sure. find laws of war, for sure. and briefly minister, _ laws of war, for sure. and briefly minister, is - laws of war, for sure. and | briefly minister, is because
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were almost out of time, you ask israel to assist in that investigation, have they agreed? i investigation, have they agreed?— investigation, have they aareed? ., �* ., agreed? i don't have feedback et from agreed? i don't have feedback yet from our _ agreed? i don't have feedback yet from ourjustice _ agreed? i don't have feedback yet from ourjustice minister. | yet from ourjustice minister. we have to leave it there for the moment, polish foreign minister, thank you so much for joining us on bbc news. let�*s turn to some important news around the world... canadian police say they�*ve arrested and charged three people with last year�*s killing of the prominent sikh separatist, hardeep singh nijjar authorities say separatist, hardeep singh nijjar. authorities say they are investigating whether the men have connections to the government of india. mr nijjar�*s killing led to a diplomatic row between canada and india, after ottawa accused delhi of involvement. india denies the allegations. hope hicks — donald trump�*s former campaign spokesperson — became emotional on the stand in trump�*s new york hush—money trial and detailed the campaign�*s panic over a lewd recording of mr trump that was made public before prosecutors allege mr trump falsified business records to conceal a payment made to adult film star stormy daniels in order
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to prevent further damage to his 2016 campaign. the former president denies the allegations. kenya is on high alert after president william ruto warned the country could experience its first ever cyclone. torrential rains have lashed east africa since march, claiming more than 350 lives and displacing tens of thousands. mr ruto has deployed the military to assist with evacuations, and postponed the reopening of schools indefinitely as kenya braces for the cyclone. that�*s it for the moment, stay with us here on bbc news, i�*m katrina perry. hello there. the weather at this time of the year really can be very fickle, as we�*ve seen over the past week, and during the bank holiday weekend it�*s going to be a mixture really where there�*ll be some sunshine at times. there�*ll also be some heavy showers. it could be quite warm, but we�*re not going to reach the high temperatures that we�*ve seen in the past few days. take you back to thursday and all four home nations
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had their warmest day of the year. and we maintain those sort of temperatures in western scotland and northern ireland on friday. but for suffolk and north wales it was much colder because of cloud and rain. that�*s moving its way a little bit further north. but we�*ve got some more rain to come on saturday across northern ireland. some heavy showers pushing across scotland may turn a bit drier in north wales and northern england, but still a lot of cloud. to the south, though, we�*ll see some sunshine after a chilly start. a few showers developing in the south east of england, but in the sunshine across midlands, southern england, south wales, east anglia, it�*s going to be a warm day, 16—17 degrees. we could reach 19 in the north—west of scotland before those heavy showers arrive. there�*s a few more showers, though, to come in scotland and northern ireland, perhaps the far north of england, should be a bit brighter, but a bit of sunshine will trigger some thunderstorms. the shower across england and wales and a bit of rain coming into the far south—west. that�*s keeping temperatures a little bit lower here, but otherwise, widely, temperatures are going to be a reasonable 16—18 degrees on sunday afternoon. now, there is a bit of rain in the south—west — it�*s on that weather front there.
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an area of low pressure, not really much wind to move things on at all. there�*s a bit of uncertainty as to how far north that showery rain could get, but it�*s pushing a little further north into england and wales. there�*ll be some sunshine, but we�*re also going to trigger some more of the slow moving, heavy thundery showers, particularly in scotland. and temperature—wise on monday afternoon for the bank holiday, typically 16—17 degrees. now after the bank holiday, the weather is going to change. wouldn�*t you know it? and it�*s going to get a lot drier because that area of low pressure moves away and this area of high pressure will build in. now, around the top of it next week, we could well see a bit of rain towards north western areas of the uk, but on the whole it is looking like it�*s going to get dry after monday. there�*ll be more in the way of sunshine around as well and if anything those temperatures are going to be rising, getting into the low 20s in many places later in the week.
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on a journey across the coldest... woohoo! ..the windiest... whoa. ..and surely one of our most awe—inspiring continents. there it is, there. it�*s there. 0h! oh, hello. look at that. just over 105,000 tourists visited antarctica in 2023. it was also the hottest year on record, with potentially disastrous global consequences. muffled bang. oh, it�*s a carving. that�*s a massive bit of ice falling off.
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we see ice sheets melting, ice shelves melting,

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