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color there and welcome to the program. i'm the start of your time. a student demonstrations in solidarity with palestine on us campuses on escalating police have made hundreds of arrest, dismantled entitlements, and evicted students, even barricading themselves inside college buildings. for just as one day universities to cut ties with companies linked to israel. this crisis is also becoming a political flash point and the potential headache for the president are biting as he seeks the 2nd time in november. republicans criticizing his handling of these demonstrations, even as he continues to support. israel is more on gaza, which has killed close to $35000.00 palestinians. all the student protest is taking a political time. could they cost to buy and support them a significant section of young versus and what's expected to be a closely full collection. what for these and all the questions that i guess i'm just a moment, but 1st this report by katya lopez told her, yeah, the,

it's a protest that's growing into a movement with students across the united states showing support for palestinians in garza. we came together to make demands on the university to tie best in town and cram corporations that profit off, and it is rarely genocide, former and current students from at least 30 universities have stage rallies and set up in cabinets. many demanding college administrators could financial ties with israel and stop investing in companies that do business with the is really military . it's not about columbia or c, c, n, y, or berkeley, or you see a la or any other place where the students have risen up. this is the coaches have a nation speaking through your kids, through young people. many say the demonstrations reflect the state of american political discourse, an issue. so polarizing among young voters, it could have ramifications that reach all the way to the white house. present bite

needs to denounce a mazda is campus sympathizers without equivocating about is riley spiting, a right just war of survival weeks of protest against israel's war. and garza mark the biggest student mobilization in america. since the 19 sixty's, when demonstrations against the vietnam more searched on college campuses, one of the leaders of those protest decades ago says history is repeating itself. they're sick at heart. and as, as i was 56 years ago, and they have seen mass murder, we saw a mass murder in vietnam, a carpet bombing a pole provinces. the movement is also posing a challenge for university administrators trying to balance the right to free speech with freedom of assembly complaints, of intimidation and accusations of allowing anti semitism. and this one i think

that a lot of jews have a lot of generation very difficult to see. do dan palestinians have very difficult going on now 7 months into israel's were on cause the, the demonstrations reflect political and generational divisions which could play a significant role in the us presidential election in november. patty a little bit. so the un, which is 0 for insights story, although it dramatic confrontation. so here, uh the hours of thursday between police and students at the university of california, kansas and los angeles. from that his full level with his report to. so these protests isn't now being loaded onto these large buses. one by one of these buses belong to the federalist sheriff's department, the county sheriff's department, and they'll be taken to a site. we believe touts out to be processed as you walk through the site. you can see this cows of process discrete, which with days was play it,

which is of the october 7th hostages, facing this direction because this is paradise protest is living. recall this metal, metal barricade se, but look at all of this. stay free. there are crates, they're a wouldn't boards of pallets, these will what the protests were using to effectively defend the come at us. we cross the lie. we are now into the come by walking through what was a very densely populated area. say well, what's, how anywhere between $3500.00 protests is living here, but the tubs were very, very close together. and that is why it took so long for the police to come in effect to be walk through, work that way through the types of policy. what able to come in quickly. they had to go through. but ultimately to take these protest is out. it's going to take a good few days to clear all of this mess up us for the protests as the selves will . they will come now that if you look at all to those buses, some of the lead pol entirely but we have the stab. most of them have pete arrested

. they say for them, this protest is false over. this is just the beginning from los angeles fil, about the inside story, the oh, that's not bring in august and the i'm the casa is an associate professor and public policy. i've university of maryland. she specializes in racial and ethnic politics and she joins us today from washington, dc in boston. we have rami cory, a political analyst, and distinguished public policy fellow at the american university of beverage. and also in washington dc is james davis. he's a republican strategist who has advised major corporations and yours on governments around the world. a very warm welcome to all of you. thank you for joining us today on inside story. now, especially given what we've seen in the last few days at u. c. l. a and in new york it feels like the, the response, the, the escalating response to what we're seeing on, on college campuses around the us. that's almost galvanizing more action. so we've got this growing movement, not just individual purchase, but now what seems to be

a movement in an election year around me. i know you've been speaking to a lot of students who have been involved in these demonstrations. do you get the sense that this is just the beginning? yeah, it is. i've been involved in campus activities, media stuff, public policy debates in the u. s. for the last 55 years since 1968. when i was a freshman, when i was a sophomore at syracuse university, and ever since then, i've been involved by the end. the base was like, you know, hello students or media debates or whatever and not stop in the last 55 years. and i can tell you, this is the most dramatic moment in terms of how the palestine is real issue, intersects with american domestic politics and trends. but the reason is that since 1968, which was a dramatic year for protest on the chicago convention of the cetera of the

democratic party, it has slowly, slowly built up a coalition of marginalized people, are americans that african americans, most of the american hispanic americans labor unions of students. i'm have some other groups of charge groups and these people have been organizing for 40 years is getting holders registered. we saw the impact of that in the primaries in michigan a few months ago and other primaries for the 1st time. this group of, let's call it, they're not all ethnic minorities, but marginalized minorities are not working together. and they say that the democratic part is incumbency. we don't know what's going to happen in november, but we do know that there is now a huge ideological crash in the united states. it's been that for a while. if you look at, you know, i'm a, shouldn't be see him and fox but, but this has now gone on to the local level, the public level and, and, and it just incredibly powerful as a, as

a confrontation. hopefully it will stay a peaceful that has been from the protesters side yesterday and the day before. but we have some focus pro is really moves or attacking students don't usually like other places. but this, this is really, really important. it's the 1st time that palestine injury has become a domestic american political issue. wherever it goes depends on how the battle now will come out, whether they lead establishment forces will prevail for the protesters out. there are huge national coalition loop about ronnie just to clarify something for our view is because you have been speaking to to student protest as involved right now on campuses there's been a lot of allegations of outside interference of people coming in and, and instigating violence. so other kinds of activities on campus are you hearing about any of that from your students? and that's really a that some of them say that occasionally some people try to come in and influence

some of this on that. i thought that there's no more outside influence in this, then there isn't the american congress or the american media with look at external forces that try to influence them, usually legal ways, lobbying advertising, etc, pressuring them the outside influence is a part of public life and politics especially on the, on the items you have the kindest on israel, a coffee, but the students, i've talked to him about 12 universities across the us. and the last 34 months have been remarkably focused, clear, and a violent and of the coalition that i mentioned is global nationally, is reflected at the level of the protesters, especially with the progressive jewish students, african americans and others. and you talk about this very organized student reason . i mean, universities in the us as historically, have had a very deep culture of, of activism. it's supposed to be

a safe space. right. and we know this from the vietnam. well, what happened to columbia, for instance, we've seen this over the course of, of many, many generations at american universities. at this time though, we are also now seeing faculty get involved with seeing divisions within the democratic policy. people taking sides. yeah, i'm curious for your thoughts on this. how deep do you think the risk saw that we're seeing develop within universities within the democratic policy, within these, what will have rami described as previously nationalized scripts you have previously come together? well, i mean, i think is, you know, part of where faculty have responded is because of the escalation, bass on campus is with calling in police and national guard. and, you know, i think many faculty feel like it's their responsibility to protect these children . i mean, they're still children. i mean, i know we call them adults,

but they are still young people in many times we have as much as not more contact. then these young people with these young people in their own families because many of them are far from home. we see them at scheduled times. we go over week and we build relationships with them. so when you see them being bit tied, and in some cases brutalize. yeah, i think a lot of faculty of cotton, i mean whether they are on one side of the debate or other or the other. i think what is important is that many felt that they be there to support students that universities should not be in the business of calling in a state of florida used to wordpress. what is their constitutional right to protest into speech? i think it's been very concerning because as this has in full that i think there been lots of ways in which the protest and

terminology or even just to protect themselves. right. have been used to talk about, you know, the atmosphere on campus. and to me, that is just as a faculty member from where the code for we want to bundle mentally change university systems by people who typically don't care about universities who they are definitely don't care about young people and certainly have not spent a lot of time on a university campus in a while. and i think part of the reason why this is so i don't know can earning distressing or even surprising for some is the fact that one, we don't have a lot of expectation. sometimes out of young people, we tied them for being disengaged and when they engage, we say they don't know whether they are ignorant, they're wrong. they're being, you know, brain loss, all kinds of derogatory things. but these people are engage. this is the george floyd generation. if you will, and part of why these, i think these,

these particular protests have gained so much traction is, is one, because i don't think we ever thought that there would be a place where one could be. knew lots of buffalo and a critique of the state of israel, but also because the university's unwillingness to just sort of let this thing play out, has escalated and spread the, the tax, what most people don't get is the semesters winding down for most of us. we only have a week or 2 left to school. it was highly unlikely that students were going to stay behind and protest of the summer. but when you start calling it n, y, p, d, and l a p d, and other things in the time students and throwing them in jail sales, then you made this a real pain and that saying it wasn't real before. but now you have, you have heart and there was all right to continue this and there are lot of solidarity protests that came up as a result. so i think this is

a pre miss. you put you lation by both the democratic party. yes. but also um, from the university leadership, i mean, he handed your tool there about a miscalculation and all you really, it was also the series of congressional hearings. right? that really intensified these protests. and then the subsequent reaction that we've seen from administrators. since then, james, i'm curious, how much do you think this has all been driven by political considerations, especially the response we've seen from university management? well, i think it's driven by political considerations, but the political considerations come from the fringe of the what is the democratic party and the divide within the democratic party over what the public policy uh, what your state should look like in regards to israel and palestine. it is a big divide for joe biden is basis is, is completely waged on this issue. and he's been kind of playing in the middle of the road on this. and it's kind of become roadkill in the middle of the road. um,

because he has no banks on either side. i, i just saw a video of students on both sides of the debate on a college campus. you know, it's chanting explicit it, it was against joe biden, both of them back and forth. so he's not winning with either coalition there. i think overall it's been a vacuum of leadership at the university system level. and uh, and then obviously in the white house here, when we talk about free speech it's, it's important to remember like, yes, we want to teach our young people how to cheat and, and, and lift up their voice and brain passion and spirit to the debates. but if they're taking over property, if they are intimidating or harassing other students, that's not ok. and that's when law enforcement unfortunately has to get involved us for the protection of, of, of property rights and individuals. it's not fair to the individuals who paid a ton of money to go to some of these institutions to get their education to have

it disrupted by that, right? they're trying to, to a, to prepare for their location. and you know, you're basically taking from them, some of them are, are having really similar moments in their life that like education are like their graduations been cancelled at the way we started saying not so well pops on surprisingly, in an election. yet we are already hearing from pet president donald trump on this . let's take a lesson to some of what he's had to say. college president and i say remove the in camp and so mediately rank, where's the radicals and take back our campuses for all as a normal one, a safe place from which to learn a lot. certainly not the most striving language we've had from him on this. but james, let me throw this to you. as a republican strategist, i mean the party must be pretty delighted watching with this on hold. well,

i think politically, it does put uh joe uh, puts due by another really tough spot. put something in a strong spot into his credit. he's running a very good campaign this time around. you know, the recent poll from monmouth asked americans how they viewed this match up where they excited about this matchup of joe biden. versus donald trump. this re match and 30 percent 6 percent of democrats said no. 66 percent republican said yes, and then 27 percent of independence. i said yes. so, i mean there's a huge delta in these numbers and it shows the enthusiasm gap until binds are, and spacing, and that's in the, it all this is happening on top of the bind nomics and increase inflation, cost of living, all of those things. so this is just more fuel to the fire. it looks very easily similar to the black lives matter. move met from 2020 except for its breaking the opposite way. right now it's interesting because we're still just sort of

a 6 months from the november elections. and obviously, foreign policy doesn't usually feature massively highly on the top is which is priority list when, when they're going to the bottom box in the us. i've been looking at some of that on this as well, particularly when it comes to young versus recent. what was it, how the institute of politics use publish it, says garza and what's happening, the ranks fifteens on the list of top issues facing young by disney notes. fairly low down the list, well below the economy and emigration. according to to that survey, rami, do you think what's happening, what we're seeing happen now, and the response on college campuses will actually change, but it's in behavior. well it already has, we saw it in the primaries and several states. that's not definitive, but the primaries where people say a but she registered as of uncommitted was a warning shot. it wasn't a full book. but that's a very important warning sign because they were replicated on about 5 or 6 other states. so the palestine is real issue. it is now

a domestic issue in the election here. and what, what significant those, what now besides the, i think was very important. this is the 1st time in modern history, and i don't exaggerate because our experienced this whole history of, since i was a student and 1960, that was the 1st time that people in the united states. so mainstream media but mostly on social media and alternative media and progressive media, but mostly on the ground where they live, are able to discuss the issue of palestinian rights, is really policies and american complexity. emily, or i guess i know this has never happened before. so you're seeing this desperate attempt by, uh, the, what i call the power lead. and i just remember to james in the sense that the, there's no real difference between the republicans or democrats when it comes to the middle east policy. they're minor little things here and there,

but when you see my husband, because he has to support for the war a, there's not, there's no real difference at all. so you have a power really, that is really a cost part is the media of the mainstream media is central to this, and the corporate world is central to this. they are desperately trying now to discredit the demonstrators who was saying there's outside infiltrators on this and up. i can watch this closely every day i've watched this and i just wrote, and i've been on this, this coming out a few days that the, the desperately using, you know, the same tactics will come out of the pro is really probably down to about that. but just put them as terrorists there. how much lovers they're not sees. this is the worst thing, is real as experienced as the holocaust. that those reviews of people that are free to haul it just happens to be, they're not accurate on this exaggeration. and all these accounts to desperately stop the discussion then probably about the israel's behavior for american complicity in the war. so this is the battle, this taken place. it's really,

it's really about of the trains of forces throughout the webinar as anti semitism, to silence, palestinians and progressive voices on the us. and of course, exchange american policy is to stop being so war happy. the other side people were fighting for justice for the past and the peaceful, legal rights are as well as in thousands. you get to these incredible statements by the president himself of the head of the congress, the house of representatives. and this sort of should be no match statement. so this is people are talking about the speech too too. and while it is real, them killed that or this is total, that's a little larger. so nonsense. it's a stereo, but it's a syria in the center of the power structure. and that will be who i just want to pick up on something you said that it just very briefly. i'm curious about whether you think, given what we've seen on campuses and what we've seen in terms of facing behavior. and the problem is whether any of the protests that we're seeing in the growing

movement, whether that might actually shift any administration policy. i think it will, i think we will see it, but it's not going to happen quickly. what are the things that i've learned and i'm look during the writing of this now in the last 45 years, 50 years of follow. this is the policy change happens slowly. social activism happens quickly. reactions the source back to this one happens quickly. media stuff happens especially by policy change happens slowly. remember in the, in the sixties and early seventy's, i watched the ones move on to expand civil rights. we're going to reach a peek, the environmental move on the born and the ad to be up. now more more would be born those movements to the top 102030 years to make real policy changes. and so we have to look at this as a be a part of a slow moving process that yes, i think there will be changes, but they'll take time. well, part of that,

that in reason that for change is about voting me on the let me ask you about the, what would be a progressive use for him and how much that's, that's going to impact bite and in, in november, if you're a progressive use, but it's what is your calculus, if your best best solution to this angry at the, by the administration and the white house do vote from knowing what he might do in an office, or do you just not vote at all? i think one of the things that they are not as persuaded by this go round as they were in 2020 is the beer. you have to give people something more than just being fearful of alco. some people might say, hey, we have for you donald trump, it was terrible, but we lived through it's fine. and i think, you know, some people think they'll be another boat. i think we could never hang our hands on that. right. i mean, we've seen it in other countries. people always think that there's another chance to vote. but when you have someone who's suggested at least that they're committed

to being more autocratic, i don't know that we get hang our hats on that. but i think these young people are willing to gamble that because they are not inspired by the democratic coalition. they're not inspired by a job. i. they don't care for him as a candidate. mean people think he's too old, he's out of touch and certainly this issue is not just about sort of israel in homicide and all of that. it's also about how the police they have been using to give these kids. i mean, it's about a lot of things and their disillusionment with housing with the cost of living insulation, etc. so i think if there is a choice, i think a lot of people will knowingly stay home understanding that this could be a problem said donald trump when in the fall. but we have to also know that there are down valid races that those kids might also be willing to engage with. so no, i mean both of these people as president, but i will vote for my state legislature mass any council people because those are

becoming much more attractive i think, been used for the kind of change in the immediacy that these young people see. but also these are places where it seems like these, these candidates have more room is not as martin paid for the 2 parties, the system that we see when we talk about the presidential races. speaking of the candidates, i want to, to bring in james here as a political strategist, if you're advise in the vibe and white house right now on how to de escalate the situation. we're seeing that really only happened at a couple of universities at brown and north westman, who, who promised her votes on divest mental, well, grace had transparency. but we haven't had a tool from the president himself. we haven't had it all from jo binding the stage . what would you be advising him in his administration to do right now? well, the reason you haven't been hearing from him is because he doesn't do a great job when he comes out and gets public speaks as the teachers and his administration is really trying to, his team is trying to really handle him with

a really tight lease. right now, and i think ultimately you're going to have to have him go out and make a forceful case one way or another. which way he's going to go on on this policy debate. because right now he's failing in the middle and no one's happy. so they're going to have to make a decision here to, to, to, um, to, to play k one side or the other. they're trying to have it both ways and they can't . the problem here is the same problem. you see with a lot of corporations in america where, you know, the leadership wants to go one direction, but an employee base wants to go another direction or so we some radical portion of unemployed based wants to go a different direction. and they make a lot of noise, particularly on social media, and that travels fast. and then you've got to have responses to all of that. and i think that's a problem is basis of the lines on this issue is a super wedge issue. when you're talking about the impact on the race and what's gonna happen, you're looking at now, you know,

roughly $10000.00 or so votes difference in across 7 states. that will impact the outcome of this election. if you were to go back and look at the 20 uh 2020 uh, buddy ols. and if you look at all the souls right now, trump is, is, is a good bit of heads up of joe biden. and those are swing states already. so all you need to do is turn it out at the march. we're talking 10000 votes. that's, that's nothing. and it's already going to be a kind of straightforward election. what we're seeing now will only make it more so i'm sure you will agree. thank you though, for a very interesting discussion today, it's all about yes ma'am, because a from inquiry on james davis, i'm thank you to, for watching. you can see this program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com. so for the discussion to there's well facebook page, facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. remember, you can also join the conversation on x. now, how does that is at a inside story?

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